The Answer to Everyone's Complaints

[unfocused]

Interesting. So are people always satisfied with Nikon or do they just move on if not satisfied?

Nikon has its own issues. A lot of people question the execution of the Df, oil/sensor issues, green tinted displays, liveview deficiencies, etc.

Nikon just set aside $17.7 million to address D600 issues. That is not the way any company would choose to spend that money. That coupled with overall market conditions would give any investor pause.

People say that now is the golden age of photography and seeing the exponential increase in number of photos taken, it's hard to disagree with that. However, a larger market is not aways a good thing for manufacturers. Competition can be more intense and margins/total profitability can fall. It may be a boon to one that does not heavily invest in any company's products, but for those that do, a company's long term profitability can be a concern.

Absolutely. I lived through the last "golden age" of photography – the late 60s, early 70s SLR boon. That's a very big reason why I would hesitate to invest a lot in any system other than Canon or Nikon. Pentax, Mamiya, Konica, Yashica, Contax...all were hot SLR brands during the last golden age. Some exist today, but only because the brand name was sold off to other companies. Ten years from now, I'm pretty sure Canon and Nikon will still be making bodies. Sony, maybe. But, I'm not willing to take that risk.

 

[jrista]

Interesting. So are people always satisfied with Nikon or do they just move on if not satisfied?

Nikon has its own issues. A lot of people question the execution of the Df, oil/sensor issues, green tinted displays, liveview deficiencies, etc.

Nikon just set aside $17.7 million to address D600 issues. That is not the way any company would choose to spend that money. That coupled with overall market conditions would give any investor pause.

Absolutely.

People say that now is the golden age of photography and seeing the exponential increase in number of photos taken, it's hard to disagree with that. However, a larger market is not aways a good thing for manufacturers. Competition can be more intense and margins/total profitability can fall. It may be a boon to one that does not heavily invest in any company's products, but for those that do, a company's long term profitability can be a concern.

Absolutely. I lived through the last "golden age" of photography – the late 60s, early 70s SLR boon. That's a very big reason why I would hesitate to invest a lot in any system other than Canon or Nikon. Pentax, Mamiya, Konica, Yashica, Contax...all were hot SLR brands during the last golden age. Some exist today, but only because the brand name was sold off to other companies. Ten years from now, I'm pretty sure Canon and Nikon will still be making bodies. Sony, maybe. But, I'm not willing to take that risk.

Ditto!

 

[sagittariansrock]

Interesting. So are people always satisfied with Nikon or do they just move on if not satisfied?

Nikon has its own issues. A lot of people question the execution of the Df, oil/sensor issues, green tinted displays, liveview deficiencies, etc.

Nikon just set aside $17.7 million to address D600 issues. That is not the way any company would choose to spend that money. That coupled with overall market conditions would give any investor pause.

Absolutely.

People say that now is the golden age of photography and seeing the exponential increase in number of photos taken, it's hard to disagree with that. However, a larger market is not aways a good thing for manufacturers. Competition can be more intense and margins/total profitability can fall. It may be a boon to one that does not heavily invest in any company's products, but for those that do, a company's long term profitability can be a concern.

Absolutely. I lived through the last "golden age" of photography – the late 60s, early 70s SLR boon. That's a very big reason why I would hesitate to invest a lot in any system other than Canon or Nikon. Pentax, Mamiya, Konica, Yashica, Contax...all were hot SLR brands during the last golden age. Some exist today, but only because the brand name was sold off to other companies. Ten years from now, I'm pretty sure Canon and Nikon will still be making bodies. Sony, maybe. But, I'm not willing to take that risk.

Ditto!

This has to be Jrista's shortest post.

 

[jrista]

This has to be Jrista's shortest post.

HAH! Your probably right.

 

[funkboy]

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[AcutancePhotography]

Interesting. So are people always satisfied with Nikon or do they just move on if not satisfied?

Not at all. The people on the Nikon forms bitch and whine about Nikons as do the people on the Pentax forums. They probably do it on the Sony forums but I don't read those.

I don't think there is a camera system out there where someone on the Internets Tubes won't find something to complain about. It's what photographers do on the Internets Tubes. ;D


It is just that the posts here are more enjoyable to read than on the other forums. Canon people get passionate!

People here are a hoot! ;D

 

[rpt]

This has to be Jrista's shortest post.

HAH! Your probably right.

Good Lord Jrista! not feeling well?

 

[jrista]

This has to be Jrista's shortest post.

HAH! Your probably right.

Good Lord Jrista! not feeling well?

LOL, no. Just been busy processing some new astro images. Haven't wanted to spend so much time writing huge answers the last couple of days. Processing these things is a hell of a lot more work than processing normal photos. It takes hours, maybe even days, to do just one. Some of the algorithms, as I was mentioning before (on another thread) can take minutes to run.

 

[traingineer]

This has to be Jrista's shortest post.

HAH! Your probably right.

Good Lord Jrista! not feeling well?

LOL, no. Just been busy processing some new astro images. Haven't wanted to spend so much time writing huge answers the last couple of days. Processing these things is a hell of a lot more work than processing normal photos. It takes hours, maybe even days, to do just one. Some of the algorithms, as I was mentioning before (on another thread) can take minutes to run.

So, are you going to give a hint/sneak peak of what you took an image of?

 

[jrista]

This has to be Jrista's shortest post.

HAH! Your probably right.

Good Lord Jrista! not feeling well?

LOL, no. Just been busy processing some new astro images. Haven't wanted to spend so much time writing huge answers the last couple of days. Processing these things is a hell of a lot more work than processing normal photos. It takes hours, maybe even days, to do just one. Some of the algorithms, as I was mentioning before (on another thread) can take minutes to run.

So, are you going to give a hint/sneak peak of what you took an image of?

Before:

After:

North America Nebula, or at least the left half of it. Constellation Cygnus, in an arm of the Milky Way. Integration of 50x270s lights, 50xdarks, 30xflats, 180xbias. Processed over two days in PixInsight and Photoshop. Probably somewhere between 20-25 stops of dynamic range in the final integration.

 

[traingineer]

PixInsight

 

[jrista]

PixInsight

PixInsight

 

[mackguyver]

North America Nebula, or at least the left half of it. Constellation Cygnus, in an arm of the Milky Way. Integration of 50x270s lights, 50xdarks, 30xflats, 180xbias. Processed over two days in PixInsight and Photoshop. Probably somewhere between 20-25 stops of dynamic range in the final integration.

Just admit it. You're obviously using the paintbrush tool ;D.

All kidding aside, that's amazing that you start with what looks like a shot with nothing in it and end up with that. Very impressed.

 

[traingineer]

PixInsight

PixInsight

Pixinsight's HDRWT is one of kewlest things I've ever seen.

 

[sagittariansrock]

PixInsight

PixInsight

Thanks to you and others who make these amazing things visible to us mere mortals. Two thumbs up!