neuroanatomist said:
Tugela said:
[lApparently the camera has a Digic 8 processor in it...
Will all cameras with Digic 8 shoot 4K? Because that's what you said about Digic 7...
The thermal envelope of the Digic 7 did not allow it, but the processor is basically the same as the Digic DV5, which does have a hardware 4K encoder inside it. If the DV5 can do 4K in hardware, so can the 7. The DV5 requires a fan to do it however, which means that the 7 would also need one. Fans are not part of stills cameras, hence no 4K.
This has been explained to you a great many times. I am surprised that you still fail to understand it. Well....maybe not that surprised after all this time. I have come to expect it from you.
If the Digic 8 can handle hardware 4K or not depends on it's thermal envelope. It is the sibling of the DV6, which means that the hardware logic is essentially the same. The camcorders that use the DV6 have vents, but they also do 4K in 60p, which requires 2x the processing and obviously generates a lot more heat per unit time as a result. So, those camcorders may use fans to achieve that spec, but may not need them for 30p. If that is the case then hardware 4K30p should be possible in at least ILC type bodies. Jury will still be out on smaller bodies depending on passive cooling until we see some examples because of uncertainty of how the thermal envelope will fit those cameras, but I would guess that they will be able to.
I have been pointing out that the Digic 8 would likely have these capabilities for quite some time now, since the first DV6 based video cameras were announced (the C200). Based on the hardware codecs these cameras were using it appeared that the logic had been developed for consumer cameras, not professional ones, which was a pointer that Canon had finally got the thermal envelope under control. They achieved this by scaling back on the specs of the codec (which is why the hardware codecs in the C200 look so basic). The DV5 (and by extension, the Digic 7) had professional grade hardware encoders for 4K, but at the expense of excess heat generation which made them unsuitable for use in consumer cameras for that purpose. It would appear that Canon addressed this by nerfing the video capabilities of the DV5 to the point where heat was manageable by passive cooling and calling the new processor the DV6/Digic 8. Not an issue for the C200 since that is primarily a RAW camera with some basic hardware encoding options.
The only question really was when the processor would start appearing in still camera models since there is a development period for camera. That development period typically is shorter for consumer models, which is why we usually see the latest processors appear in them first before the flagship models (which have much longer development periods).