The Canon EOS R3 at the Tokyo Olympic Games

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Ok. We get your outrage. Do what you can to make changes you want made.

Now, get back on topic.
I did, I told you all to stop acting like little schoolboys and misogynistic oafs.

It isn’t ok to objectify women like that and it isn’t ok to demand they show skin to ‘sell’ their performance, it should never be mandated especially by men.

I then got back on topic....

If the R3 is 24mp then I will be able to jump the queue because of all the people that said they were going to get it but don’t actually pre-order.
 
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It is easier to release a product at a high price and lower it to meet market demand.
There is also the added benefit of people paying what they were willing to pay or more but it now looking like a bargain.
The limitations are that there are competing products that set the price range and setting too high off an initial price could turn people off entirely.
Canon can't set the R3 price too low without making the 1DX III look too expensive.
I would imagine that Canon would drop the price of the 1DX III once the R1 comes out but mirrorless prices do not seem to affect DSLR prices.
I suspect that the 1DX3 will drop in price the day that the R3 is formally announced. I am surprised that it is still listed at $6,500.
 

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Canon please I need to know:
1. Price of R3 (Please let it be $4899, no more)
2. Megapixels of R3 (Please let it be 30mp at 30fps full RAW with minimum 30-shot burst. I had a 5DSr, so 45mp is likely too much, likely to interfere with ISO performance.)
3. Please oh please does it have a variable low-pass or no low pass at all? Please?

I am so hateful in general but Canon is really winning, almost on a 1987 level when they introduced the EOS Electro-Focus.
 

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Good link and interesting read. Life is often about getting the balance right - so maybe the R3 will be 30 mp after all ;)
It’s funny how my thinking changes with the rumors! As you know I shoot commercially with 20mp, and the truth is it covers 99% of what I actually need, mainly because I rarely need to crop heavily.

But when the rumors were 45mp I justified it to myself that for that 1% it would make a difference and if so many other photographers are dealing with 45+mp files then it can’t be that bad or slow. Then the rumor went down to 30mp and I thought, hmm, not quite as good for my 1% but still a very good upgrade from my current 20 and all in all a decent compromise. Then the rumors say 24mp, and I kind of felt like something had been taken away from me! Of course that is stupid thinking and 24 actually still upgrades me 20% of data points per image and gets me into the R system in a form factor I am very used to.

All this to say, for me, who is an actual serious purchaser of the R3 mp really aren’t the deciding factor. The form factor, LP-E19 battery, WiFi and GPS, and durability are really the key features for me and I can reason around whatever the mp number ends up being.

If Canon do read these darn forums then price is the decider for me of when, not if, I will get an R3. The less it is the sooner I’ll get it, I’d like to get it before the end of this tax year....
 

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I did, I told you all to stop acting like little schoolboys and misogynistic oafs.

It isn’t ok to objectify women like that and it isn’t ok to demand they show skin to ‘sell’ their performance, it should never be mandated especially by men.

I then got back on topic....

If the R3 is 24mp then I will be able to jump the queue because of all the people that said they were going to get it but don’t actually pre-order.
You can have my spot Private!
 

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I suspect that the 1DX3 will drop in price the day that the R3 is formally announced. I am surprised that it is still listed at $6,500.
I doubt it going by other 1 series cameras. Heck the 1V held its price for 6 or 7 years after they stopped making it. Don’t forget for those that want it it is worth the price, Canon have a pretty good idea how long they will have the last production run in stock and it looks like that is it for the DSLR from Canon. I’d expect them to have a few thousand in stock and they will just sell them slowly to the diehards and committed DSLR users over the next few years then list it as discontinued.
 

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The 1D X sports camera wasn't high megapixel. The R3 sports camera won't be high megapixel either. In sports cameras, there are other more important attributes.

Since the R3 isn't available for pre-ordering, your comment about that is nonsensical.
John, back at its rerelease 2011, the 1DX was very much on the high res side. It did lose 3 MPs from the then high 1Ds Mark III and 5D Mark II, but it wholly was a high res camera for the time. Actually, when you look closely, it was very similar to the A1, in that it had very high resolution (though not the highest) for the time and it was very fast. Canon didn't make a big leap until 4 years later (2015) in the 5DS and 5DSR. Sony had dabbled in higher resolution cameras at that time, 25MP, but didn't make their big splash with the 36MP beast for about 2 years after the 1DX. That also includes Nikon, but Nikon brought the Sony sensor D800 a year after the 1DX. But still, at release the 1DX was in fact very close to the top of the heap resolution-wise.
 
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I do hope the R3 has GPS, but I'm feeling that it won't have !
Yes I would be very disappointed if it doesn’t have GPS. It is a feature I was dismissive before I got it but now really like it.
 
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Americans are not as prudish as people seem to think.
Americans are very much into sex and porn.
What sets Americans apart is that any and all nudity is considered sexual.
Well, PBD lives in the USA (Florida). He knows that Europeans are more comfortable with nudity and showing skin (He's from the UK). Then, he is outraged that a beach sport requires swimsuits (well, turns out beach volleyball allows shorts at the Olympics). Personally, I find the Speedos worn by men far more offensive... but no outrage over that. ;)

BTW: The Norwegian Beach volleyball team was not fined. Turns out that shorts are allowed in Beach Volleyball. Should we be outraged when these women choose to not cover up then? It was the Beach Handball team that was fined.


"The European Handball Federation (EHF) says the matter of female uniforms was discussed at a conference in April 2021 “upon a motion of the Norwegian Handball Federation.” The EHF said all member federations, including the Norwegian Handball Federation, decided the topic would be tabled until a newly elected Beach Handball Commission meets in August. Once that meeting happens, suggestions on uniform changes can be presented to the International Handball Federation (IHF)."

So, the issue is already being addressed, but tabled at the request of the Norwegians. Then the Norwegian team decided to make a statement during competition (so courageous). Then, old white guys get their thongs in a bunch on their behalf (but wrong team and wrong sport) on a thread about the R3. Gotta protect those weak and vulnerable grown women. That's a real man. In my opinion, a more misogynistic stance. Women can take care of themselves.

As far as young girls in leotards? Yeah, that's up to parents to straighten out. As long as mothers and fathers allow it to happen, it will. Governing bodies will make a change when the "product" decides (as a group) that they ain't gonna take it anymore. Those people running these federations and the coaches want to keep their jobs, don't they? The parents are fully to blame. Parents buy the uniforms. Parents take little girls to the classes. Parents take the girls to competitions. Parents ship their girls off to camps. Guess what? Half of those parents are women.

 
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Well, PBD lives in the USA (Florida). He knows that Europeans are more comfortable with nudity and showing skin (He's from the UK). Then, he is outraged that a beach sport requires swimsuits (well, turns out beach volleyball allows shorts at the Olympics). Personally, I find the Speedos worn by men far more offensive... but no outrage over that. ;)

BTW: The Norwegian Beach volleyball team was not fined. Turns out that shorts are allowed in Beach Volleyball. Should we be outraged when these women choose to not cover up then? It was the Beach Handball team that was fined.


"The European Handball Federation (EHF) says the matter of female uniforms was discussed at a conference in April 2021 “upon a motion of the Norwegian Handball Federation.” The EHF said all member federations, including the Norwegian Handball Federation, decided the topic would be tabled until a newly elected Beach Handball Commission meets in August. Once that meeting happens, suggestions on uniform changes can be presented to the International Handball Federation (IHF)."

So, the issue is already being addressed, but tabled at the request of the Norwegians. Then the Norwegian team decided to make a statement during competition (so courageous). Then, old white guys get their thongs in a bunch on their behalf on a thread about the R3. Gotta protect those weak and vulnerable grown women. That's a real man. In my opinion, a more misogynistic stance. Women can take care of themselves. As far as young girls in leotards? Yeah, that's up to parents to straighten out. As long as mothers and fathers allow it to happen, it will.

The link I originally posted clearly stated the beach handball team! What faux outrage, you mistakenly thought I said volleyball when you found out it was the handball, give me a break, like that would make any difference even if you were correct.
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You can be outraged at mens speedo's or anything else, that is your prerogative, it is also their prerogative to wear them, or not. The things they can't wear are high tech full body suits that did give a competitive advantage and were banned in 2010. My only point was that mandating wearing skimpy outfits, for anybody, but especially for men to mandate that women expose themselves for 'sport' is pathetic and unbecoming. Heck even most 'beauty contests' don't have a swimsuit walk now.

If you can't see the difference between requiring swimwear for beach sports, and mandating bare midriffs and measured amounts of thigh exposure only for female competitors I simply don't believe you.