The Canon EOS R6 Mark III is Canon’s Next Full-Frame Release

[jam05]

If the news about the sensor is true then I will be disappointed… I’m so sick of all these companies chasing resolution. 24MP was a perfect range for the R6 and if they had just pulled the R3 or R1 sensor it would have been amazing. I’m a hybrid shooter, when manufacturers add more resolution, video features then tend to suffer. 24MP/6K is a great middle ground between high resolution and managing a sensors video performance, especially in regard to readout speed, something that would have been phenomenal if they went with an R3 or R1 stacked sensor.

Canon is shifting away from "pure hybrid" cameras. Portrait photographers often want higher resolution. Sorry, 24mp just aint gonna cut it for all genres. It maybe your middle ground. But for people that shoot portraits etc 25mp is a very long way from and R5 45mp or a medium format 102mp Fujifilm gfx camera. Your hybrid 24mp still images simply may be a very small niche.

 

[m4ndr4ke]

The obsession with "readout speed" and "stacked sensors" is getting ridiculous.

Is it?

IE, stacked sensor amounts to jack squat in the final photo.

Does it?

I was hoping for a stacked CMOS sensor on the R6 III. Among other places, I shoot at a venue where silent cameras are mandatory, which immediately forces me to use electronic shutter so, unless I'm using a Canon camera with a stacked CMOS sensor, I'll have to sacrifice image quality, by shooting 12 bit RAW instead of 14 bit, which is exactly what I do.

I would definitely appreciate a stacked R6, which would be a lot cheaper than a R5 II, R3 or R1.

For me, Canon could pretty much remove the mechanical shutter altogether, I wouldn't miss it for a second.

Not to mention the obvious difference between 12 and 30 to 40 frames per second.

Your personal experience does not define the entire market.

 

[Vlastimil91]

But now what will be better R6 Mark iii or R5 for landscaping photos. Portrait maybe R6. Mark iii. Because the R5 is at a good price now.

 

[John Wilde]

Whatever the specs end up being, some people will find a reason to complain.

 

[koenkooi]

Is it?

Does it?

I was hoping for a stacked CMOS sensor on the R6 III. Among other places, I shoot at a venue where silent cameras are mandatory, which immediately forces me to use electronic shutter so, unless I'm using a Canon camera with a stacked CMOS sensor, I'll have to sacrifice image quality, by shooting 12 bit RAW instead of 14 bit, which is exactly what I do.

I would definitely appreciate a stacked R6, which would be a lot cheaper than a R5 II, R3 or R1.

For me, Canon could pretty much remove the mechanical shutter altogether, I wouldn't miss it for a second.

Not to mention the obvious difference between 12 and 30 to 40 frames per second.

Your personal experience does not define the entire market.

And don’t forget that the faster readout now allows using flash, which has already improved my focus stacks a lot!

 

[Del Paso]

Whatever the specs end up being, some people will find a reason to complain.

Yes, but also because "one size fits all" doesn't apply to cameras or photographers.

 

[AlanF]

Yes, but also because "one size fits all" doesn't apply to cameras or photographers.

Even if it did, there would still be complaints it is sad to say.

 

[Del Paso]

Even if it did, there would still be complaints it is sad to say.

You are, unfortunately, right.

 

[Eloniel]

You are, unfortunately, right.

It's true but it's enlightened consumers role to push manufacturers to improve their products, because let's be honest a company job is to make the most money possible and so to find the compromise of what would sell the most for a the maximum acceptable price and lowest manufacturing cost.

 

[Del Paso]

It's true but it's enlightened consumers role to push manufacturers to improve their products because let's be honest a company job is to make the most money possible and so to find the compromise of what would sell the most for a the maximum acceptable price and lowest manufacturing cost.

The real issue is that almost everybody is convinced to be THE "enlightened customer".
Especially the ones who believe they know what is right, disregarding individual needs and differences.
A la "who needs more than 24MP, who needs f/1,2, who needs a top LCD, who needs an TS lens etc..."
If only the "enlightened customer" wrote "I don't need".

 

[mimbu]

I was recently told that Canon has a “wild” wide angle prime lens on the near horizon.

This will be especially interesting. Canon has never made an exceptional fast prime wider than 24mm. Maybe they've finally cracked that nut?

I wonder how much they'll charge for it!

 

[mimbu]

I would definitely appreciate a stacked R6, which would be a lot cheaper than a R5 II, R3 or R1.

A 24mp stacked sensor might be slightly cheaper than a 45mp or 50mp stacked sensor, but not by all that much. The higher cost of such sensors comes from the complexity of the required 3D integration (ie the stacking). This results in much lower yields than a standard CMOS sensor, which in turn means the production cost is much higher. This far exceeds the cost difference between a basic 24mp and 45mp CMOS sensor.

This is why Sony opted for half-measure "partially stacked" sensor that was used in the the Z6iii and S1ii. These are generally better than just cranking up the readout speed of a basic FSI or BSI sensor, but nowhere near as good as a fully stacked sensor. Much, much cheaper to manufacture.

Unless & until there is some sort of big breakthrough in the 3D integration process, fully stacked sensors will not end up in R6 level cameras.

 

[LPSDOTCOM]

Whatever the specs end up being, some people will find a reason to complain.

And that is why they keep making new cameras isn't it? If people didn't complain, there wouldn't be a market for anything on earth.

I find it much more annoying when anonymous commentators get on a high horse over someone else saying they want something better than what is being offered.

 

[rombe3jr]

There are rumors that influencers are flying to Japan for the imminent R6 III announcement. I'm getting excited!

 

[FirewalkR]

There are rumors that influencers are flying to Japan for the imminent R6 III announcement. I'm getting excited!

They already did, or rather, they've been there for the last week at least. Jared Polin (FroKnowsPhoto) and Chris Niccolls from Petapixel, for example, are part of the group. That's obviously why @Canon Rumors finally has some info. (Not speculating that either of them is a source, of course. There's lots of people there)

 

[davidespinosa]

At this point, a 35/1.2 would be pretty wild !

 

[David - Sydney]

Yipp, 'wild' is hard to interpret, but I agree with your interpretation of something non-usual. Coming from the astrophotography side: I don't like all the digital corrections of the VCM lenses and things like the strong vignette are simply a no-go for panoramas (of the milkyway). Unfortunately the VCM lenses seems to be popular (astro is a niche), so Canon will try to build more of them. Canon might have reached a limit concerning the dimensions of the VCM lenses with the 20/1.4 lens, so that anything wider - and 'wild' - might be a non-VCM prime lens. I would be fine with a good 14/1.4, but I don't complain about anything faster.

I don't believe that there is extra pixel data in optically corrected lenses of the same size as the digitally corrected one. We may think that the "light" is more accurate that digital manipulation but the physics still means aberrations.
Can you point to any study/research to show that optical is better than digital correction?

Note that severe vignetting is an issue for single frame astro shots but much less so for panoramas. This is due to the corners being discarded when the panorama is generated - say with a 1/3 frame overlap. The side bits are for the panorama stitching control points but are discarded in the final image. The exception is the top left/right corner of the final merged image where this is not the case.

 

[David - Sydney]

Among other places, I shoot at a venue where silent cameras are mandatory, which immediately forces me to use electronic shutter so, unless I'm using a Canon camera with a stacked CMOS sensor, I'll have to sacrifice image quality, by shooting 12 bit RAW instead of 14 bit, which is exactly what I do.

My R5 also forces me to have ES at full speed or one shot so a lot of redundant frames vs the R5ii with variable fps.

Weirdly enough, my wife complains that hearing my mechanical shutter fire on my gopro footage is annoying. My setup is to have the gopro mounted on top of my underwater housing and running most of the time and my R5 for stills. Even with a partial vacuum in the housing, the shutter noise is very obvious in the video footage. I need mechanical shutter when firing strobes but I'll be in Aitutaki next week for humpback whales/calves and won't be using strobes. Whalesong will be important to record
ES and in 12 bit will be new/interesting challenge

 

[David - Sydney]

Canon is shifting away from "pure hybrid" cameras. Portrait photographers often want higher resolution. Sorry, 24mp just aint gonna cut it for all genres. It maybe your middle ground. But for people that shoot portraits etc 25mp is a very long way from and R5 45mp or a medium format 102mp Fujifilm gfx camera. Your hybrid 24mp still images simply may be a very small niche.

Perhaps portrait photographers needing very high resolution is also a small niche??

 

[Skux]

If you want a high resolution stacked sensor, the R5 II already exists