AlicoatePhotography said:
Based on pics like this, how could Canon track who it was? (unless there's just 1 pair of 1dx/5diii's in Dubai)
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Based on pics like this, how could Canon track who it was? (unless there's just 1 pair of 1dx/5diii's in Dubai)
gbchriste said:How's this for a consipiracy theory. Canon intentionally leaks the photos and "release" date knowing they will stir the blogosphere into a wild feeding frenzy. Then when the sharks are circling in for the kill, they clamp down really hard to seal off any more info getting out and let the "release" date pass with no announcement. One week goes by, two week, maybe a month. By then, all credibility in CR as a reliable source of Canon product information has been uterly destroyed. Canon can now continue to operate securely in to the future knowing that anything that comes out on CR, regardlss of confidence level, will be completely dismissed out of hand. (I don't really believe any of that. Just thought I would throw a little blood in the water)
The first part of your theory makes complete sense.
About the second part, I am positive that from Canon's perspective a site like this does a lot more good than harm. Let's face it, the harm is almost non-existent. It's not like Craig is posting roadmaps or detailed product specs years in advance or other information that competitors don't have. Most of the solid information comes very near to the announcement date and even then it's very limited in details.
On the other hand, a site like this generates ongoing "news" and brand coverage even when Canon don't have anything to announce or tell us. This kind of free and continuous publicity is priceless. Furthermore, I am positive that the buzz generated before an announcement, even if it "spoils" most of the surprises, is directly translatable to more preorder sales than if we just have waken up one day to a new model on the market.
So, in the end, while Canon might be a bit annoyed from time to time from this site, I am sure they know that they are better off with it on the air than not.
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DavidRiesenberg said:gbchriste said:How's this for a consipiracy theory. Canon intentionally leaks the photos and "release" date knowing they will stir the blogosphere into a wild feeding frenzy. Then when the sharks are circling in for the kill, they clamp down really hard to seal off any more info getting out and let the "release" date pass with no announcement. One week goes by, two week, maybe a month. By then, all credibility in CR as a reliable source of Canon product information has been uterly destroyed. Canon can now continue to operate securely in to the future knowing that anything that comes out on CR, regardlss of confidence level, will be completely dismissed out of hand. (I don't really believe any of that. Just thought I would throw a little blood in the water
The first part of your theory makes complete sense.
About the second part, I am positive that from Canon's perspective a site like this does a lot more good than harm. Let's face it, the harm is almost non-existent. It's not like Craig is posting roadmaps or detailed product specs years in advance or other information that competitors don't have. Most of the solid information comes very near to the announcement date and even then it's very limited in details.
On the other hand, a site like this generates ongoing "news" and brand coverage even when Canon don't have anything to announce or tell us. This kind of free and continuous publicity is priceless. Furthermore, I am positive that the buzz generated before an announcement, even if it "spoils" most of the surprises, is directly translatable to more preorder sales than if we just have waken up one day to a new model on the market.
So, in the end, while Canon might be a bit annoyed from time to time from this site, I am sure they know that they are better off with it on the air than not.
This place is free marketing for them
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All it takes though is for Canon to look up the OP and then send a "See you in court" letter. Now you have to go out and get a lawyer, to fight this. If Canon thinks they can prove that they were going to spend 20 Million on a worldwide marketing campaign to announce this camera, and it was disrupted significantly, or it made them look bad in the market place, don't you think they could go after some kind of damages? All I know is it would be a pain, win or lose. People come to Craig with "info" and he publishes it. It is different if you go and steal that info, and publish it. I agree with the fact that they get a lot of Publicity and they should in fact feel honored that we all care so much. My vote would be for them not to worry about it. I am a live and let live kind of guy. But, there will be fewer undercover cameras going to Dubai next time.
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wickidwombat said:DavidRiesenberg said:gbchriste said:How's this for a consipiracy theory. Canon intentionally leaks the photos and "release" date knowing they will stir the blogosphere into a wild feeding frenzy. Then when the sharks are circling in for the kill, they clamp down really hard to seal off any more info getting out and let the "release" date pass with no announcement. One week goes by, two week, maybe a month. By then, all credibility in CR as a reliable source of Canon product information has been uterly destroyed. Canon can now continue to operate securely in to the future knowing that anything that comes out on CR, regardlss of confidence level, will be completely dismissed out of hand. (I don't really believe any of that. Just thought I would throw a little blood in the water
Like I said, I don't believe any of it. I was just having a little fun.
The first part of your theory makes complete sense.
About the second part, I am positive that from Canon's perspective a site like this does a lot more good than harm. Let's face it, the harm is almost non-existent. It's not like Craig is posting roadmaps or detailed product specs years in advance or other information that competitors don't have. Most of the solid information comes very near to the announcement date and even then it's very limited in details.
On the other hand, a site like this generates ongoing "news" and brand coverage even when Canon don't have anything to announce or tell us. This kind of free and continuous publicity is priceless. Furthermore, I am positive that the buzz generated before an announcement, even if it "spoils" most of the surprises, is directly translatable to more preorder sales than if we just have waken up one day to a new model on the market.
So, in the end, while Canon might be a bit annoyed from time to time from this site, I am sure they know that they are better off with it on the air than not.
This place is free marketing for them
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AlicoatePhotography said:
No doubt - info about 5d successor can put a lot people on hold with preordering d800.
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Interesting you say this. The D800 has a pop up flash which is very intriguing to me. The pop up flash is nice in those situations when you need a touch of fill and don't have a 580 nearby.gputah said:The D800 is the first Nikon camera to tempt me in a while... If canon were to do something like this, I would have to indulge temptation this time
The 36MP frightens me as that would implies upgrades to everything that touches the work-flow such as computer, storage, backup, etc...
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This is exciting ehehe ;D
I love those conspiracy theories... and why not speculate ? This is a "Rumors" site after all 8)
I believe too CR is a good free marketing for Canon, no point in taking it down.
Those leaked pics could be inside job,very good timing just before D800 without revealing too much details either.
I have another theory, more simple but less likely:
My guess is that those pics are from the same batch than the "somewhere in africa" ones before. Same 1DX/5DM3 combo, same vague location but definitely with big blue sky and a lot of sand around.
What marked me in those pics before was the photographer wearing a Ricoh GR scarf, which could be odd if the guy is Canon staff and this is a PR photo op. Same goes for the Sigma lens on those new pictures. (ok, that could be on purpose to "prove" that it isn't a PR move...in this case i would applause !! ;D)
Maybe one good move from Canon would be to give their coming camera to field test to photographer who are NOT Canon fanboys expecting too much from the 5DM3, so they give objective opinion AND are not too keen to "leak" any details on rumors site because they just don't care that much. So no need to take a picture of any new feature or button, just a couple of front shots would be satisfying.
And they would be more likely to keep their NDA than anybody like us ahahah ;D
That doesn't explain MichaelCruz though....argg this is exciting !
I love those conspiracy theories... and why not speculate ? This is a "Rumors" site after all 8)
I believe too CR is a good free marketing for Canon, no point in taking it down.
Those leaked pics could be inside job,very good timing just before D800 without revealing too much details either.
I have another theory, more simple but less likely:
My guess is that those pics are from the same batch than the "somewhere in africa" ones before. Same 1DX/5DM3 combo, same vague location but definitely with big blue sky and a lot of sand around.
What marked me in those pics before was the photographer wearing a Ricoh GR scarf, which could be odd if the guy is Canon staff and this is a PR photo op. Same goes for the Sigma lens on those new pictures. (ok, that could be on purpose to "prove" that it isn't a PR move...in this case i would applause !! ;D)
Maybe one good move from Canon would be to give their coming camera to field test to photographer who are NOT Canon fanboys expecting too much from the 5DM3, so they give objective opinion AND are not too keen to "leak" any details on rumors site because they just don't care that much. So no need to take a picture of any new feature or button, just a couple of front shots would be satisfying.
And they would be more likely to keep their NDA than anybody like us ahahah ;D
That doesn't explain MichaelCruz though....argg this is exciting !
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And how many have the same lenses as shown in the photos and in their signature, with full website contact details?K-amps said:Well, thats a small enough number.... Off to the Principal's office!astrocrab said:
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Astro said:
It could make you go bankrupt and get you blacklisted and make you look generally bad to employers, so even if no jail that's not exactly a great situation to be in is it?
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neuroanatomist said:Steb said:I thought the direct mirror lockup button is called live view.
Never used the original mirror lockup method hidden in the custom functions menu. In live view I can even visually control vibrations. Am I missing something?
Nope - in fact, Live View is even better because it uses an electronic first curtain, and that reduces the vibration even further than MLU alone.
Someone posted some tests to DPR a year or two ago and Liveview actually make quite a noticeable difference for some exposure durations and was a lot better than regular MLU.
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MazV-L said:Rishaar said:
The lens pictured on the 1DX is NOT a Sigma, it is the Canon 85Lii at a rather strange angle so you can't see the red ring. I have this lens so was able to do a comparison and am sure of this
That was so 14 pages ago!
Sorry, couldn't help it. I hate those stupid commercials.
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gbchriste said:How's this for a consipiracy theory. Canon intentionally leaks the photos and "release" date knowing they will stir the blogosphere into a wild feeding frenzy. Then when the sharks are circling in for the kill, they clamp down really hard to seal off any more info getting out and let the "release" date pass with no announcement. One week goes by, two week, maybe a month. By then, all credibility in CR as a reliable source of Canon product information has been uterly destroyed. Canon can now continue to operate securely in to the future knowing that anything that comes out on CR, regardlss of confidence level, will be completely dismissed out of hand. (I don't really believe any of that. Just thought I would throw a little blood in the water
Or they just feed announcement dates a week off here and a spec 1 fps off there and use disinformation to slowly weed out all the leakers one by one.
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K-amps said:
I would think not many 5D3 are out there, so there very, very, very well might be just one in Dubai, unless maybe there is some event there where they sent a whole bunch to test it at once and that is why the guy was not afraid to leak a photo or two.
Although perhaps Canon told the guy to leak a couple shots and it was under their orders.
Then again maybe the guy 'accidentally' fell off a balcony last night. This is the most likely scenario by far.
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