The Next DSLR from Canon Will Be...

[JennyGW]

I hear an awful lot of demand for 4K video and gps and touch screen and all sorts of fancy stuff that I have no interest in whatsoever as a stills photographer. I kinda resent paying the extra money for all of this stuff I will never use, plus it just adds crud to the buttons, dials and menus.

I realise this probably (ok definitely ) won't happen, but it would be awesome to see the 5Div as a pure stills camera with nothing added that isn't towards making a higher quality stills image.

Curious does any brand have such a beast?

 

[slclick]

Wait... is year of the lens over?

 

[privatebydesign]

I hear an awful lot of demand for 4K video and gps and touch screen and all sorts of fancy stuff that I have no interest in whatsoever as a stills photographer. I kinda resent paying the extra money for all of this stuff I will never use, plus it just adds crud to the buttons, dials and menus.

I realise this probably (ok definitely ) won't happen, but it would be awesome to see the 5Div as a pure stills camera with nothing added that isn't towards making a higher quality stills image.

Curious does any brand have such a beast?

Nikon would argue the DF is your camera. With sales in the single digits I wouldn't expect to see a Canon version any time.......ever......

 

[rrcphoto]

Food for thought.

The last time Canon did a major line refresh they did 5 new ILC's cameras + two derivatives.

1DX
5D III
6D
T4i
EOS-M
1DC
60Da

 

[Nininini]

I hear an awful lot of demand for 4K video and gps and touch screen and all sorts of fancy stuff that I have no interest in whatsoever as a stills photographer

If you look at 4k as a series of stills, you will understand why it's so powerful.

You now have control of a an 8MP camera that does 30FPS burst with an unlimited buffer.

Add in the fact that several cameras are now downsampling 4k from the info of the whole sensor, you are getting extremely detailed 8MP images at a constant 30 FPS.

 

[Nininini]

it would be awesome to see the 5Div as a pure stills camera with nothing added that isn't towards making a higher quality stills image.

It already exists, it's called the 5DS, it's completely tailored to stills.


The 5D MII and MIII on the other hand, are extremely popular among news journalists, like 90% of the Reuters staff uses them: https://widerimage.reuters.com/photographer, removing video would be a terrible idea.

News reporters constantly switch from video to JPEG stills. They want both, they need to capture the moment quickly and flexibly, in a pro weathersealed body, but not as large as the 1DX. That's how the 5D became the go to DSLR for reporters.

 

[Diltiazem]

With price down 6D is selling like a hotcake and this trend will easily continue for another year or so. There is demand for 6DII, but it is nowhere nearly as great as the demand for 5DIV. A huge number of people are waiting for 5DIV, although most are quite happy with 5DIII. For that reason alone I feel that 5DIV will come before 6DII and it probably will come pretty soon.

 

[et31]

You'll think that I'm crazy for suggesting this idea.
How about a Canon C100 Mark II with a 1Dx all-in-one? The Canon 1DXC-PV
The video, the photography, and the ergonomics without the hassle. Will revolutionize the professional market.
Optimize a few features of course to ensure ideal performance, but the form factor is already there.

It's time for the engineers to get started on this concept!

 

[ExodistPhotography]

Canon started freaking out 12 months ago with Sony A7 mirrorless sales surging. They clearly diverted internal resources towards mirrorless so that means you will see mirrorless cameras and lenses in 2016.

If Canon came out in the next 6 months with with a 7 or 8 FPS 5D4 with a higher megapixel version on the 1Dx II sensor, it would kill 1Dx sales.

If Canon comes out with a 6DII with a higher megapixel version of the 1DxII sensor it will kill future 5D4 sales - that just cannot happen.

They either make the wedding season (March / April release) or it is a Christmas / next year event with a few month later 6DII launch.

The new 6D II will in all likely be a 24MP, however the people that would by the 6D series are not the people who would by the 1Dx series and vice versa. MP on these two cameras are not their selling factor between them. The 6D is a entry level Full Frame, more of a enthusiast level DSLR in a magnesium body. Th 1D is the uber flagship that only extremely well paid pros go for. Only time those people by a 6D is if its a gift for someone else.

That said, yea I have read snips here and there that Canon is in fact working on a real mirrorless option. The success of the Sony Alpha mirrorless line has opened their eyes up. I expect we will see or at least hear something this year also..

Me personally I like the feel of a mid level DSLR, but many dont and want smaller..

 

[ExodistPhotography]

I hear an awful lot of demand for 4K video and gps and touch screen and all sorts of fancy stuff that I have no interest in whatsoever as a stills photographer

If you look at 4k as a series of stills, you will understand why it's so powerful.

You now have control of a an 8MP camera that does 30FPS burst with an unlimited buffer.

Add in the fact that several cameras are now downsampling 4k from the info of the whole sensor, you are getting extremely detailed 8MP images at a constant 30 FPS.

Stills photographers that ONLY take stills are becoming a small niche. Most need video these days. Video from weddings and events have become a big thing and more of a norm. As far as 4K, even if most people export it out as 1080p. Most still want to film in 4K, the down sample making very fine detailed video that looks nicer then just native 1080p. Plus panning, zooming, re-cropping and leveling the video up. So much you can fix without loosing detail.. Its so worth it just to film in it, even if you don't upload or export at 4k..

 

[ExodistPhotography]

The next DSLR from Canon will be the 5DsR Mark II

LOL yea with that 250MP sensor they been talking about.. :-D

 

[Mr Majestyk]

A little birdy that is testing the 5D3 replacement told me the next camera from Canon will be actually called 5DX, they are not going with 5D mark 4. Take it FWIW, but I have no reason to doubt him.

 

[aroo]

Hoping the 6D2 will have double the AF points, double the resolution, one stop higher max ISO, 4k video in short clips, intervalometer, twice the GPS and twice the wifi :

 

[ecka]

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If Canon came out in the next 6 months with with a 7 or 8 FPS 5D4 with a higher megapixel version on the 1Dx II sensor, it would kill 1Dx sales.

Absolutely not. There are ergonomic and other factors that distinguish the 1 series from the others. It is more than just "frames per second."

Otherwise, the 1DX2 was just born dead, because the 7D2 killed it long ago, in 2014. ;D

 

[Maleko]

Plot twist... no 5D MK IV until 2017...

But seriously, I only recently upgraded from my trusty 5D (Mark I) to the Mark III and have to say even for four year old camera it still feels like something brand new from this year - as in features and quality etc. I personally have no need for things like GPS, WIFI... heck video is just an added bonus, rarely ever use it. yet i know a lot of people do, so having 4K in the IV would make it more 'future proof'.

Apart from the people who just like the latest and greatest, unless the MKIV really shows a vast improvement, can't see MANY people moving over straight away.
I mean the price I got the MKIII was fantastic compared to release price... yes yes, it was four years ago, but still.

 

[ecka]

Plot twist... no 5D MK IV until 2017...

But seriously, I only recently upgraded from my trusty 5D (Mark I) to the Mark III and have to say even for four year old camera it still feels like something brand new from this year - as in features and quality etc. I personally have no need for things like GPS, WIFI... heck video is just an added bonus, rarely ever use it. yet i know a lot of people do, so having 4K in the IV would make it more 'future proof'.

Apart from the people who just like the latest and greatest, unless the MKIV really shows a vast improvement, can't see MANY people moving over straight away.
I mean the price I got the MKIII was fantastic compared to release price... yes yes, it was four years ago, but still.

What about those who want to upgrade from their 5D2, which they used for both stills and video? 1080p doesn't cut it anymore. Upgrading to 5D3 could be just a pointless waste of money, if 5D4K is coming tomorrow.

 

[Dalantech]

Any rumors on a refresh for the MT-24 EX macro twin flash or the MPE-65mm macro lens? The MT-24EX is the only Canon flash that has not been updated, and I've been told by several people who tried to get their MPE-65mm repaired that there are no replacement parts. Canon offered one photographer a new lens at a slightly reduced price because they didn't have a replacement aperture assembly. The cable that runs between that part and the lens contacts takes a lot of wear because it moves with the lens when the magnification is changed. I've had to send my MPE in to replace the aperture assemble twice in eight years.

 

[scyrene]

We're hoping for some new 5D IV's because both of our III's are well above the 100k mark. Some decisions might have to be made soon if they don't!

They are still brand new - I'm pushing 400K and still on the original shutter - I can only think that's because I always shoot in silent mode and there are less vibrations.

Is that an app? I've never found anything that could read the shutter count for my 5D3 :/

 

[Maleko]

Plot twist... no 5D MK IV until 2017...

But seriously, I only recently upgraded from my trusty 5D (Mark I) to the Mark III and have to say even for four year old camera it still feels like something brand new from this year - as in features and quality etc. I personally have no need for things like GPS, WIFI... heck video is just an added bonus, rarely ever use it. yet i know a lot of people do, so having 4K in the IV would make it more 'future proof'.

Apart from the people who just like the latest and greatest, unless the MKIV really shows a vast improvement, can't see MANY people moving over straight away.
I mean the price I got the MKIII was fantastic compared to release price... yes yes, it was four years ago, but still.

What about those who want to upgrade from their 5D2, which they used for both stills and video? 1080p doesn't cut it anymore. Upgrading to 5D3 could be just a pointless waste of money, if 5D4K is coming tomorrow.

think you misread me...

I did say the MKIV needs to show VAST improvements, which would include 4K. Hence why I said 4K would make it more future proof.
Side note, remember majority of people don't have facilities to view 4K, 1080P is still not everywhere as well. - But that's another disccussion.

 

[scyrene]

Money is put aside for the 5D IV, however i dont think they will put anything inside that will make it a must have update over my 5D3, so i most probably will keep it until the shutter dies. I prefer to spend my money on a full frame mirrorless instead and use them both side by side...but at canons speed i guess the shutter dies first before that happens*

*the shutter of the 5D IV that is :

I usually upgrade, but I'll keep my 5D3 unless the 5D4 has at least: DPAF with touch-to-focus touchscreen, 4K, and 120fps 1080p. I'd like IBIS, GPS, Wifi, Wireless flash control, a boost in DR and high ISO performance, and a whole lot more too.

Bottom line is my 5D3 is already great for photography, but it needs a boost in video capabilities in order to function as a jack of all trades camera today.

Does any Canon DSLR have IBIS? Do they even have patents on that technology? I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.