The Unthinkable: Swapped out 5D3 for 6D

JohnDizzo15 said:
CarlTN said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

Bravo! I took a less costly route and just bought the 6D to begin with, having tried my cousin's 5D3 a few times.

John, just keep in mind, that in the eyes of the 5D3 lovers, you are no longer a serious photographer. You have taken a step down in your photographic station in life!

That's never meant much to me one way or the other. What matters to me is being able to make the images I want the way I want them (and more easily when possible).

I will miss the 5D3, but the 6D is enough to get it done for the time being. One of the big motivations for this swap is to have more money ready in prep for canon's next potentially high end full frame offering.

Oh I see. Well every little bit helps, but I have a feeling that beast is going to be $9000 or more. A few hundred, or even a thousand bucks, is not a lot of money by comparison. You're best off paying for it over time. The problem is, Adorama and B&H are fond of only giving you 6 months to pay, no interest. By contrast, Amazon will give you up to 24 months, or even more to pay (at least if it's a tv, haha!) Not sure how long they'll give you to pay for a 1 series body that costs that much, though. Might be difficult to get a line of credit large enough with the Amazon card, but I suppose it's possible. You might need over $200k in annual income or something, in which case just paying cash for it might make more sense.
 
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CarlTN said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
CarlTN said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

Bravo! I took a less costly route and just bought the 6D to begin with, having tried my cousin's 5D3 a few times.

John, just keep in mind, that in the eyes of the 5D3 lovers, you are no longer a serious photographer. You have taken a step down in your photographic station in life!

That's never meant much to me one way or the other. What matters to me is being able to make the images I want the way I want them (and more easily when possible).

I will miss the 5D3, but the 6D is enough to get it done for the time being. One of the big motivations for this swap is to have more money ready in prep for canon's next potentially high end full frame offering.

Oh I see. Well every little bit helps, but I have a feeling that beast is going to be $9000 or more. A few hundred, or even a thousand bucks, is not a lot of money by comparison. You're best off paying for it over time. The problem is, Adorama and B&H are fond of only giving you 6 months to pay, no interest. By contrast, Amazon will give you up to 24 months, or even more to pay (at least if it's a tv, haha!) Not sure how long they'll give you to pay for a 1 series body that costs that much, though. Might be difficult to get a line of credit large enough with the Amazon card, but I suppose it's possible. You might need over $200k in annual income or something, in which case just paying cash for it might make more sense.

I anticipate that it will definitely be at least in the 6k range and would not be all that shocked if it were higher as you have stated. I'm already at roughly 3k with all the moves I have made recently. Looking at dumping three or four more lenses which should put me between 6-7k which will have me all set :) Oh, not to mention I will also be dumping the 6D at that time for hopefully another thousand'ish.
 
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JohnDizzo15 said:
CarlTN said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
CarlTN said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

Bravo! I took a less costly route and just bought the 6D to begin with, having tried my cousin's 5D3 a few times.

John, just keep in mind, that in the eyes of the 5D3 lovers, you are no longer a serious photographer. You have taken a step down in your photographic station in life!

That's never meant much to me one way or the other. What matters to me is being able to make the images I want the way I want them (and more easily when possible).

I will miss the 5D3, but the 6D is enough to get it done for the time being. One of the big motivations for this swap is to have more money ready in prep for canon's next potentially high end full frame offering.

Oh I see. Well every little bit helps, but I have a feeling that beast is going to be $9000 or more. A few hundred, or even a thousand bucks, is not a lot of money by comparison. You're best off paying for it over time. The problem is, Adorama and B&H are fond of only giving you 6 months to pay, no interest. By contrast, Amazon will give you up to 24 months, or even more to pay (at least if it's a tv, haha!) Not sure how long they'll give you to pay for a 1 series body that costs that much, though. Might be difficult to get a line of credit large enough with the Amazon card, but I suppose it's possible. You might need over $200k in annual income or something, in which case just paying cash for it might make more sense.

I anticipate that it will definitely be at least in the 6k range and would not be all that shocked if it were higher as you have stated. I'm already at roughly 3k with all the moves I have made recently. Looking at dumping three or four more lenses which should put me between 6-7k which will have me all set :) Oh, not to mention I will also be dumping the 6D at that time for hopefully another thousand'ish.

How many lenses do you have?
 
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CarlTN said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
CarlTN said:
How many lenses do you have?

17 native EF mount lenses. 2 sold already. You forced me to think. Lol.

That's impressive man! Got a mint 70-300L you would sell me for "the nice price"?

Lol. Thanks. Though it would only be impressive if I actually ever used them all. No 70-300L in the closet. Can't help you there.
 
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Up until I finished reading all the responses to your change, I would have thought it was unthinkable and not a good choice. I'm sure you may never look back and regret your decision especially since you now have cash in your camera account for the 5D IV or 7D II. Whatever it is you will be ready. You will advance your skills with the 6D and take some really nice pics in the mean time. Who knows - Maybe the replacement for the 1DX? Keep saving. LOL
 
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i don't doubt your decision. The 5D3 is a great camera for what it is..but it is also not a fantastic camera for everything.
For sports and birding, i still think the7D is hard to beat if you can't afford a 1DX.
For portraiture, the 5D3 is not bad but the 6D can do better.
For a regular walkabout, the 5D3 is too heavy.
To me, the 5D3 is a fantastic wedding camera and that's what it was made to do if you ask me.
The downside of the 6D is the AF points, there's just not enough.
But it is also not always that you will need those AF points like the 5D3..
Prices of 5D3 are falling as we speak so it's a good time to sell now before they fall too low..That's why i yself juped at the chance of selling away mine.
It was really a jack of all trades but master of none (other than weddings) and it was just too darn heavy to carry around daily or even on vacations.
 
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JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

great then, I did something similar sold my D800 and D800E and got 6D + A7R.

PS. the tiny Sony is a great camera and can even take my NEX7 glass albeit the 1.5x crop mode.
it also takes all my Canon Nikon lenses via adapters, I use SB s3 and that actually even allows my A7R to AF with my EF lenses.
That said , as already a few people pointed out the flash system of this system is really bad ,I often use my old Sony FM43a flash but it does not work on this one very well.
And the 36mp sensor is good in very good light or on tripod but not good at all for lowlight handheld work , so I might downgrade it to the A7.
finally, the Sony 35mm f2.8ZA is an amazing lens , sharp across the FF but it is a bit too dim for walk around at night.
the 55mm f1.8ZA is outstanding , but it is not my FL, so I will not get any more Sony native mount lenses but use my Leica R , Zeiss ZE /ZF and ZM mount lenses.

So, any of you really interested in downsizing your Canon FF5D ,just try Alpha 7 + Speed Booster S3 adapter first and if you like it , get a Sony native glass.
 
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JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

:o ??? You must have been through an episode of temporary insanity. ... Now that you've recovered your senses all you can do is cry out loud. :'( :'(
 
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DaveMiko said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

:o ??? You must have been through an episode of temporary insanity. ... Now that you've recovered your senses all you can do is cry out loud. :'( :'(

Haven't cried yet. lol. I think I'll survive 99% of most situations I'll run into in the next year with what I've got.

Deciding what I actually need has always been the hardest thing to bear in mind when buying or keeping gear for me. I think this was one of those moments where I knew I had to make the hard call which was to give up something I didn't actually need all that badly for something that works well enough. That, in exchange for some money back to prepare for something else that I place more value in (i.e. a new ff body with higher IQ ability).

For my purposes, there is nothing I can't accomplish with the 6D that I was doing with the 5D3. If the swap helps me create an opportunity down the line to get something bigger and better, then so be it. :)
 
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JohnDizzo15 said:
DaveMiko said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

:o ??? You must have been through an episode of temporary insanity. ... Now that you've recovered your senses all you can do is cry out loud. :'( :'(

Haven't cried yet. lol. I think I'll survive 99% of most situations I'll run into in the next year with what I've got.

Deciding what I actually need has always been the hardest thing to bear in mind when buying or keeping gear for me. I think this was one of those moments where I knew I had to make the hard call which was to give up something I didn't actually need all that badly for something that works well enough. That, in exchange for some money back to prepare for something else that I place more value in (i.e. a new ff body with higher IQ ability).

For my purposes, there is nothing I can't accomplish with the 6D that I was doing with the 5D3. If the swap helps me create an opportunity down the line to get something bigger and better, then so be it. :)

Well, unless you're shooting wildlife, sports and action, the 6D can serve you well. ... The 5D Mark III is excellent in what the 6D can't accomplish. ... Of course, the very best and the ultimate DSLR for "everything" (so far) is the mighty 1DX.
 
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DaveMiko said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
DaveMiko said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
So over the Thanksgiving weekend, I finally gathered the nerve to just let go of my 5D3 as I was offered a fair price for it. That, in conjunction with the deal for the 6D at $1400 pushed me into pulling the trigger on the swap out. Done and done.

Some things I'm struggling with, some not so much. Either way, I think the decision was the right one for me (for now).

Wondering if anyone else has given the same move some thought.

:o ??? You must have been through an episode of temporary insanity. ... Now that you've recovered your senses all you can do is cry out loud. :'( :'(

Haven't cried yet. lol. I think I'll survive 99% of most situations I'll run into in the next year with what I've got.

Deciding what I actually need has always been the hardest thing to bear in mind when buying or keeping gear for me. I think this was one of those moments where I knew I had to make the hard call which was to give up something I didn't actually need all that badly for something that works well enough. That, in exchange for some money back to prepare for something else that I place more value in (i.e. a new ff body with higher IQ ability).

For my purposes, there is nothing I can't accomplish with the 6D that I was doing with the 5D3. If the swap helps me create an opportunity down the line to get something bigger and better, then so be it. :)

Well, unless you're shooting wildlife, sports and action, the 6D can serve you well. ... The 5D Mark III is excellent in what the 6D can't accomplish. ... Of course, the very best and the ultimate DSLR for "everything" (so far) is the mighty 1DX.

I could do without all the bells and whistles at this point. If Canon released another 6D type ff body but geared it towards absolute IQ, I would be all for it even at a tag above 3k. I don't need high fps, gps, wifi, 100 AF points :), etc. I just want a body that will help me get every last bit of IQ out of the existing glass I have. 6D AF + Top level IQ - everything else, if it allowed Canon to keep it at a mere mortal's price range would be ideal for me.
 
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I'll be waiting for the next post where you have sold the 6D with your L glass and bought into the Fuji X system.
Unless you concentrate on long telephotos, you may find that the X-Pro (or the shortly expected x-pro II) will
fulfill all your needs and expectations at about 1/3 the weight.
 
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dickgrafixstop said:
I'll be waiting for the next post where you have sold the 6D with your L glass and bought into the Fuji X system.
Unless you concentrate on long telephotos, you may find that the X-Pro (or the shortly expected x-pro II) will
fulfill all your needs and expectations at about 1/3 the weight.

I would love to go all in on a smaller mirrorless rig. However, my personal opinion of the available systems is that they are not enough to cover all of my needs (along with some other shortcomings).

Although I love my x100s, it merely meets a day to day need where the shortcomings are only forgiven due to the convenience factor. I am able to produce images which I'm very happy with out of it. But it in no way replaces all the tools I need (as you've pointed out with re to tele). I feel the same even with the interchangeable lens models right now since AF is still not quite as fast as I need for certain situations and the ecosystem is still underdeveloped (lenses and flashes).

Also, if I were to jump on an interchangeable lens Fuji body, I would hope that it is full frame. Considering there is still ambiguity as to whether the XF lenses would provide enough coverage (with the limited number of them), I am not convinced that it will be a developed system very quickly. That being said, I am rooting for them and hope that they continue to come out with innovative and awesome imaging tools.
 
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JohnDizzo15 said:
Dylan777 said:
I hope is a right decision JohnDizzo ;)

As much as I enjoy X100s, I'm still looking at A7 + Zeiss FE 35mm and/or 55mm as my general camera due to FF.

Will wait out little for Rumor FF X series in 2014 ::)

Me too. For now, it seems like the right call. It gives me as much as I need out of any available canon body at the moment. I can deal with the AF and some of the other quirks. With this swap + selling a few lenses recently, my fund is already nearing 3k. Will be ready when the time comes.

I would love to just have one of the Sony bodies right now. But it doesn't make sense for what I need. When I want small, I still think the Fuji is king. The Sony may give me more res, but that's where the advantage stops. More res and dr for me doesn't equate to getting better shots. The Fuji is smaller, ovf/evf, has leaf shutter, and built in nd. Those four things alone make it better for my needs already. The Sony may be smaller than a dslr. But with a fast lens on it (which I would want), it is no longer all that small. If I go big, I'm going with a dslr for faster AF, and compatibility with all my existing lighting equipment.

These days, my philosophy is either go small (truly), or go big and don't worry about size at all. That being said though, if for some miraculous reason I can get either one of the Sony's at a large discount, I would still consider it. Lol

I went to local Sony store today, test out the A7. For indoor shooting, I think the combo A7 + 28-70(kit lens) will out perform Fuji X100s in term of AF speed. I was testing at f5.6 from close-up to far way out. Will be interesting year for me ;)
 

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Dylan777 said:
JohnDizzo15 said:
Dylan777 said:
I hope is a right decision JohnDizzo ;)

As much as I enjoy X100s, I'm still looking at A7 + Zeiss FE 35mm and/or 55mm as my general camera due to FF.

Will wait out little for Rumor FF X series in 2014 ::)

Me too. For now, it seems like the right call. It gives me as much as I need out of any available canon body at the moment. I can deal with the AF and some of the other quirks. With this swap + selling a few lenses recently, my fund is already nearing 3k. Will be ready when the time comes.

I would love to just have one of the Sony bodies right now. But it doesn't make sense for what I need. When I want small, I still think the Fuji is king. The Sony may give me more res, but that's where the advantage stops. More res and dr for me doesn't equate to getting better shots. The Fuji is smaller, ovf/evf, has leaf shutter, and built in nd. Those four things alone make it better for my needs already. The Sony may be smaller than a dslr. But with a fast lens on it (which I would want), it is no longer all that small. If I go big, I'm going with a dslr for faster AF, and compatibility with all my existing lighting equipment.

These days, my philosophy is either go small (truly), or go big and don't worry about size at all. That being said though, if for some miraculous reason I can get either one of the Sony's at a large discount, I would still consider it. Lol

I went to local Sony store today, test out the A7. For indoor shooting, I think the combo A7 + 28-70(kit lens) will out perform Fuji X100s in term of AF speed. I was testing at f5.6 from close-up to far way out. Will be interesting year for me ;)

Nice. Wish I had a local store that carried anything worth mentioning for me to even do tests with. If that combo does in fact outperform the Fuji in AF speed, then it must be very close to DSLRs. Although, I've never been much for f/4 max lenses. lol. It would be a dream come true to be able to mount Canon glass with the adapter and have it focus that fast. a7r + fast primes + same AF speed as the native lenses = me so happy
 
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FWIW, did some low light shooting last night with the 6D. The outer points (the few that are there) are pretty crappy compared to the 5D3 in low light. The center point was definitely way more awesome. Actually hit a lot faster and more consistently in similar lighting at the center than the 5D3 when I had it. Surprising difference actually. Those outer points may prove to be a thorn in my side in some situations. More to come....
 
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