There will be “a lot” of new RF mount lenses from Canon between now and March 2024
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If you're using it on a tripod on manual focus in a work-bench situation, maybe look into the Laowa lenses - I can heavily recommend the 100mm f2.8 2X (there is a similar 85mm version) which ends up giving you a similar length to the 1X versions you mention, with excellent quality for the size (and $s).
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In general I agree but it would depend on a couple of factors... I got the RF100-500 as after discount at the time and very strong second hand pricing of the EF100-400 + 1.4TC, there wasn't a huge difference... and it came with a 5 year warranty (however you want to define that value). Buying the EF new wasn't a lot more.
Although not a lens, I recently got a new RP body... again the store discount, the Canon cash back, the 10% GST refund for traveling overseas meant about AUD100-200 difference from the second hand market + the 5 year warranty. No brainer in that case.
Of course there are many other EF lenses that are much more reasonably priced second hand but you take the risk for any issues. I did this for my EF8-15, EF100/2.8 and Sigma 20/1.4. Generally at about 50% discount to new price. Yet to use the Sigma in an astro setting but will be manual focus so the risk is lower. My use of the macro lens is much higher than I expected initially so a good bargain. The best part about buying second hand is that you can sell it again for about the same cost if you don't like or use it.
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Rebel/low end DLSRs and M series were Canon's volume sellers and still profitable. I don't expect that to change with R mount.
Some birders would have preferred a R7 to be higher end for weather sealing etc though.
You might be trying to see in the future but Canon already has R7/10/50/100 bodies on sale so the R&D for APS-C sensors is already a sunk cost. Canon is still selling DLSR APS-C bodies with the 90D, 850D, 200Dii, 1500D and 3000D models available. They would only do that if they were profitable.
You need to have the perspective that these lower price points are the only viable options for countries where the relative salaries are much lower than developed countries. We can have GAS but they (in general) couldn't dream of the higher cost options.
I think that professional photographers in those markets would still need to have a DLSR/mirrorless rather than using phones.... clients would have the opinion that they could take the photos themselves and not pay for a professional photographer otherwise.
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Tell me there are finally going to be some telephoto zooms in the 150-600mm vicinity?? every other brand has this, doesn't even have to be an L series. make it affordable like the Sony one! still a ripper and opens the doors for the average Joe to enjoy some wildlife photography without having to sell the farm. I love Canon products and don't intend on changing brands, but you're way behind in this market segment!
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Your knowledge is better than mine for the big whites but wasn't the RF800/5.6 just the RF400 + 2x group (slightly different from 2xTC) + adaptor and RF protocols?
The EF version came out in 2008 for USD12k and went up to USD13k in 2015 and discontinued in 2021. Given the RF version is going for USD17k it would seem a lot more than inflation. The main benefit is that RF TCs can also be added for extra reach.
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Sony 70-200 f2.8 GM2 is $2798, the old GM is $1998. (based on Amazon prices)
This sums up CaNiSo are equally expensive. And those moaners are taking 3rd party to say bad things about Canon...still, Canon's financial report showing no sign of those people hurting Canon. I guess most moaners on the internet can't afford to buy modern gears, probably bitxxing when they have no camera on hand, or just an xxxD/xxxxD from 10+years ago.
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Yes, and the RF 1200/8 is the same treatment for the EF 600/4 III. But at least the 800/5.6 is a 'new' lenses relative to the EF 800/5.6 it replaces, and of course there was no 1200/8.
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This is interesting.
Canon RF 100-500mm L f/4.5-7.1 = 3200€
Sony FE 200-600mm G f/5.6-6.3 = 2000€ (currently on sale for 1600€)
Sigma FE 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG DN = 1500€
Comparing Canon to Sony image quality looks quite similar at 500mm f/7.1. And Sony has more reach and is faster. Like the Sigma.
I would love a 200-600mm wildlife lens for RF. I got the RF 600mm f/11 out of curiosity and now I'm more into wildlife and checking out what's happening on the Moon. But it's slow to focus and the AF area is quite small. It's hard to justify the RF 100-500 knowing the Sony exists. And the Sigma if it's good. I presume it is.
Canon RF 100-500mm L f/4.5-7.1 = 3200€
Sony FE 200-600mm G f/5.6-6.3 = 2000€ (currently on sale for 1600€)
Sigma FE 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG DN = 1500€
Comparing Canon to Sony image quality looks quite similar at 500mm f/7.1. And Sony has more reach and is faster. Like the Sigma.
I would love a 200-600mm wildlife lens for RF. I got the RF 600mm f/11 out of curiosity and now I'm more into wildlife and checking out what's happening on the Moon. But it's slow to focus and the AF area is quite small. It's hard to justify the RF 100-500 knowing the Sony exists. And the Sigma if it's good. I presume it is.
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RF 100-500L wasn't in the same category as the 200-600G, the RF is expensive for being relatively compact in the typical 100-400. The other 2 lens you mentioned is in their own category, cheap and bulky.
RF 600/f11 has smaller AF area for R5/R6/R/RP, if you are using R3/R6ii/R7 or even R50 will have larger AF area.
And you really should look into the Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG OS HSM | C, it's lighter than E-mount version even with adapter take in count. And that lens is ridiculously cheap nowadays.
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