Tool - D810 vs. 5D Mk3

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Maiaibing said:
mackguyver said:
These so-called web gurus seem to be good at one thing - selling you crap.
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Any relevant critique of the clip - which I find very informative. Or just flagging your state of denial?
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I'm not sure how what I said has any reflection on the topic of the video (as you stated correctly in your first sentence). I was commenting on the many so-called experts on the web that seem to keep popping up all the time. Yes, you could say that's hypocritical as I often offer advice here on CR, but I don't claim to be an expert, I have examples to support what I say, and most importantly, I'm not selling anything.

Since you asked, however, I'm not in any irrational state of denial and yes, the D810 has a better sensor, I think that's a fact (#1). Despite the fabulous sensor, it didn't sell as well as Nikon had hoped, primarily because of the competition from the 5DIII (fact #2). Nikon upgraded several aspects of the camera to make it more competitive with the 5DIII (fact #3). Some feel they have succeeded, some don't (fact #4).

My opinion: setting aside the 1D III and D600 fiascoes, respectively, I don't think you can go wrong with any recent Canon or Nikon models, and choice should be based on individual budget, needs, and current lens/system investment. If I were a Nikon shooter, I would be elated by the D810 and D4s and would likely own those instead of the 5DIII and 1D X. I have a considerable amount of money in Canon glass, find that Canon meets or exceeds my current needs, and prefer the ergonomics of Canon, so that's what I own (fact #5). If I truly NEEDED, not just DESIRED to have more megapixels and/or DR, I'm sure I would make the switch (fact #6).
 
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#10
Ok now that I've actually watched it...
That, was shameful. They never took the camera off base ISO, it was basically one big landscape shoot.

Tony's videos are interesting. Somewhere in that noggin he has all the right information, but he has this bizarre way of explaining things. All the flak he got for the crop factor video is well deserved, even though he had the technical details right.
I feel like that guy could use a writer.
 
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If i had to start over today, i'd go with d810 over the older 5d3. But i don't want to go through the hassel of selling all my lenses so i'll wait to see how Canon responds. Competition is great for all us consumers and Canon could use a hard kick in the butt like this to start stepping up.
 
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bmwzimmer said:
If i had to start over today, i'd go with d810 over the older 5d3. But i don't want to go through the hassel of selling all my lenses so i'll wait to see how Canon responds. Competition is great for all us consumers and Canon could use a hard kick in the butt like this to start stepping up.
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I agree. I will wait to see if Canon introduces anything with great dynamic range. Hopefully we will see the future of Canon sensor in Sept.
 
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I feel Nikon has positioned D800/E/10 and the D4/s in two distinct categories, with both sharing many of the great pro features and also having distinct areas of strength. On the other hand, 5DIII shared only a few of the 1D X's pro features, and apart from the higher megapixel count there isn't much that's essentially better in a 5DIII.
Is that an unfair assessment?
 
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SPL said:
nice car....
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house and beautiful people and equipment.

Get the feeling it's not easy to make money with photography these days. Those who shoot as their main job seem to drive Yugos from what I see personally and those who shoot AND sell products and build up a giant web presence and following seem to live in nice homes in La Jolla, CA or the fancy part of CT ;D.

Anyway I kinda wish we had a camera that was the D810 but with a couples mods in that it had an overall closer to 5D3 UI and the 5D3 raw 1080p video and the 1DC 4k video (but less plasticky) and took Canon lenses.
;D
 
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I want to see him perform a decent AF comparison and not one where he only uses the center/central AF point(s). Let's say photographing a kid on a swing (in motion) at F/1.4 to F/2 with one of the side AF points located at roughly one third of the image. If you do that, you'll be comparing crosstype AF points (5D3) vs non-crosstype AF points (D810) and will see the D810 getting blown out of the water.
 
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Civilized.

Not controlled expeperiment.

D10 in this review edges out 5DIII.

Will I switch? Nope.

Will I get the 1DX or 1DXII- yep!

sek

AcutancePhotography said:
Lightmaster said:
just for the sake of a civilized discussion... ;)
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Yeah like that will happen.

Do you also dangle red capes infront of bulls? ;D

This should be entertaining.
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
Get the feeling it's not easy to make money with photography these days. Those who shoot as their main job seem to drive Yugos from what I see personally and those who shoot AND sell products and build up a giant web presence and following seem to live in nice homes in La Jolla, CA or the fancy part of CT ;D.
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It's definitely tough out there for all but the very top photographers, at least in terms of making six figures, plus. I am in awe of people who do nothing but product reviews and seem to live quite well in terms of farms, horses, and trips to tropical islands, not to mention any names...but I guess a percent or two of big white purchases adds up :)

The reality is that stock is all but dead and that was a huge source of income in the past. It's been supplanted by workshops, books, videos, and affiliate links.

They say that if you want to make money from photography, you need to teach photography, not do photography. Scott Kelby has done rather well with this model.
 
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