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*UPDATE* Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011

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intown said:
Very interesting. Hopefully it is a sign of good things to come. :)

I am just getting back into DSLR photography so my apologies for the newbie question.

If it is a new 1D or 1Ds or some sort of combination of the two, what do you think the price point would be at?

What makes the 1D & 1Ds line better than the 5D line? Is the double in price over the 5D justified?

Thanks so much! -- Steven
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No one knows the price points or if the 1d/Ds lines will be combined or not, but generally Canon is careful about depreciating the values of the current products, so expect it to be in the same range as current offerings.

The 1D's have better AF tracking, faster AF, more accurate AF, (focusses on faster moving objects quicker in less light...) They usually have dual card holders, more than twice the FPS in burst more, twice the rated shutter count, ergonomics that appeal to extreme conditions (button layout / lighted displays for night shooting). It has some extras such as a customizable +/- 7 AEB EV mode, the rest have +/-3 etc.

The IQ might be better in maybe 1-2% of the situations... but is not 2x of the 5D... for whatever it is worth. If in the newer models they use the same FF sensor then the differences will be even less.

I know people that spent less than the price of a 1Ds and got a 5D plus a 7D... thereby getting a lot of the features of 1D plus the flexibility of having a FF and a 1.6 crop when you need it... plus a back up body...

If you are not definitely sure you need a 1D body... Maybe you are a 5D/7D contender.
 
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if I had known it would take this long I would have spent the extra little bit on a 7D.
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Same here, almost buy used 7d...I kinda like the swivel screen on 60d. But hey, I'm ready to joy the BIG BOY GROUP. FF

I have my cash ready ;)
 
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Old 5D is still an awesome camera and about the same price as a 60D. Why people wanting better image quality would choose a cropped over a full frame sensor for the same price is beyond me.
 
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@aldvan @K-amps Thanks so much for the info.

Aldvan -- the building quality and feel are can not easily be fully understood when reading about them online. Thanks for pointing it out. Makes complete sense.

K-amps -- thanks for pointing out the differences in specs. I have a better understanding of why / when a photog would push up to the 1D/1Ds series. I agree with you I am in the 7D/5D range for sure. As I will also be using the camera for video interviews I am thinking of going with the 60D. Also by going with the less expensive camera it makes upgrading in a year or so a little easier (if needed).

Due to the increase in technology it seems that the newer cameras of a lower line can really compete with the older cameras of a higher line. Unless there is a specific feature you need that is only available in the higher line such as dual cards.

Looking forward to what is announced in the next few weeks to make my decision. I am shooting with a borrowed Nikon D90, so any new body I go wiht will be an improvement.

Thanks Again! -- Steven
 
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pedro said:
@surfing_geek: look at the photog's. none of them lets you see the Mk's...is one of them holding a 5diii?
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Seriously? I swear everything/anything that anyone sees some how just points to a 5D Mark III. That's like saying your breakfast formed a 5D III on your plate... so that automatically results in the possibility of announcement.

This past month or so has been filled with announcement somehow resulting in the 5D. First it was the September announcement, and then all eyes went toward November 3rd, then you had that printer announcement tied with the EOS logo, and now they're coming back to this coming week (when it obviously will not be the 5D3). The 5DIII won't be coming until next year.

Its just annoying to see how some people take every sign/signal and somehow result it to a 5D3.

The camera will come out when it comes out but under the right signs... right now nothing is pointing toward a 5D3 it'll be the Mark 5 (or something in the professional range).

BTW I'm not just trying to call out that single poster and I'm not trying to hate on them, just trying to make a point.
 
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If anything, the 5D3 will be Nov 3rd...but I doubt it. Canon will launch some fancy ass video cameras, that is all with a 1Ds4 next week privately, the following week publicly.

The 1Ds is the oldest most out of date cameras (cosmetically speaking, it still takes the best pictures) so a new model is way overdue and will be replaced next.
 
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#32
Interesting ... from the magazine, looks like the 1D-series will stay split.

Only it bothers me a lot if Canon happens to introduce an FF 1D with 18MP, maybe one more time a cropper? In the light of the theoretical Nikon D4, that sounds like it will be less in ISO. That also begs the question, what happened to the DIGIC 5, such a poor improvement, only 2MP more per second?
 
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#33
Boy, this time Canon is pretty tight lipped about everything.

CR's been fishing like crazy and seems to have absolutely no clue! Been going back and forth between DSLR and no DSLR although off late, the hard line has been NO DSLR, up until the last 2 days that is...although CR does seem to be pretty confident about no 5Dmk3 this year....

BTW, not bashing CR! And I understand rumors and rumors and just that...rumors! CR has said that over and over. Just saying that Canon's doing a pretty good job with keeping it under the wraps!

And like CR said, no leaks probably means no release although I believe we will see a 1ds and a 5Dmk3 (or at least a 6D which would be a 5Dmk3 with trimmed features) before end of this year.
 
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Ivar said:
Interesting ... from the magazine, looks like the 1D-series will stay split.

Only it bothers me a lot if Canon happens to introduce an FF 1D with 18MP, maybe one more time a cropper? In the light of the theoretical Nikon D4, that sounds like it will be less in ISO. That also begs the question, what happened to the DIGIC 5, such a poor improvement, only 2MP more per second?
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Who said that 18mp at 10fps would max out the abilities of DigicV? Which is what I assume you are implying.
Maybe it'll do 12fps, or be a single DigicV who knows. 18mp FF sounds perfect to me.
 
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What is interesting is that the intro image is a 1Ds and on the inside pages they show the entire top of the line EOS range.

I wonder if Canon could blow everyone away by introducing all the new top flight EOS's in one go to celebrate the 25th anniversary.

If they did then I'd suggest that the 1Ds will be a mega-pixel still specialty camera.
The 1D a sports & high end video camera.
The 5 & 7D's will be what they are, top line prosumers with many of the EOS features, but I bet Canon won't let the 5's cannibalize the sales of the 1's again, so expect a proper step between them.

Just for the fun of taking a wild guess, 1Ds - 45MP stills only // 1D 25MP - APS-15fps & pro video // 5D - 30MP FF & pro video // 7D 18MP & HD video
 
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