Upgrade current body or wait?

[ajfotofilmagem]

Hey all, I am considering upgrading my current body. I have a t2i. I am thinking of making the switch to the 6D, but I am not sure if this would be the best thing to do. Would it be better to invest in glass and wait it out to the 6Dii? My current glass is 35mm f2, 50mm 1.8, and sigma 17-50mm f2.8/canon 75-300mm which I am planning to sell because both are not compatible with full frame. I considered the 7Dii because it would support my sigma 17-50 but I mostly shoot landscapes. Let me know your thoughts!

I would suggest waiting because the current Canon products are obsolete. If you are going to get rid of your lenses anyway, consider moving to a different manufacturer with greater vision than Canon since you have the opportunity to do so now with minimal pain.

If you are shooting with a T2i and are reasonably happy with the images it produces, cameras such as the 6D and 7D2 do not significantly improve on that. A better question would be why specifically do you want a replacement camera, and what specifically do you expect to get from that. That will help guide your choice.

Do you think Canon 6D will not show better picture than T2i? Using off-center AF points will not be better. But image quality at high ISO will be much better. ???

No. The Canon cameras are not obsolete, if you shoot with the right technique. On the other hand, if you make too dark photos, always at ISO100, to lift the shadows in post production, so Nikon is best for you. :

 

[nobsphoto]

Hey all, I am considering upgrading my current body. I have a t2i. I am thinking of making the switch to the 6D, but I am not sure if this would be the best thing to do. Would it be better to invest in glass and wait it out to the 6Dii? My current glass is 35mm f2, 50mm 1.8, and sigma 17-50mm f2.8/canon 75-300mm which I am planning to sell because both are not compatible with full frame. I considered the 7Dii because it would support my sigma 17-50 but I mostly shoot landscapes. Let me know your thoughts!

I would suggest waiting because the current Canon products are obsolete. If you are going to get rid of your lenses anyway, consider moving to a different manufacturer with greater vision than Canon since you have the opportunity to do so now with minimal pain.

If you are shooting with a T2i and are reasonably happy with the images it produces, cameras such as the 6D and 7D2 do not significantly improve on that. A better question would be why specifically do you want a replacement camera, and what specifically do you expect to get from that. That will help guide your choice.

What would you recommend then? What's an example of a "different manufacturer with greater vision than Canon"? I don't really know much about Nikon systems, if that is what you are referring to. I have been happy with canon so far and thought full frame would be a good upgrade, but if you have a better suggestion let me know

 

[Marsu42]

If you are shooting with a T2i and are reasonably happy with the images it produces, cameras such as the 6D and 7D2 do not significantly improve on that.

I agree with the general critical notion towards Canon's current sensors, but that doesn't mean bashing everything. Above and including iso800, the ff 6d blows the crop 18mp out of the water concerning noise, color fidelity, posprocessing elasticity and dynamic range. That's the very reason why Canon felt they had to cripple the 6d so people keep buying more expensive models.

What would you recommend then? What's an example of a "different manufacturer with greater vision than Canon"? I don't really know much about Nikon systems, if that is what you are referring to.

Few people have real experience with both systems, but on paper buying into Nikon seems like the smarter move right now if you don't own too much Canon gear already. I stay with Canon because of Magic Lantern, but the d750 reads like an excellent camera at a very reasonable price.

 

[Tugela]

Hey all, I am considering upgrading my current body. I have a t2i. I am thinking of making the switch to the 6D, but I am not sure if this would be the best thing to do. Would it be better to invest in glass and wait it out to the 6Dii? My current glass is 35mm f2, 50mm 1.8, and sigma 17-50mm f2.8/canon 75-300mm which I am planning to sell because both are not compatible with full frame. I considered the 7Dii because it would support my sigma 17-50 but I mostly shoot landscapes. Let me know your thoughts!

I would suggest waiting because the current Canon products are obsolete. If you are going to get rid of your lenses anyway, consider moving to a different manufacturer with greater vision than Canon since you have the opportunity to do so now with minimal pain.

If you are shooting with a T2i and are reasonably happy with the images it produces, cameras such as the 6D and 7D2 do not significantly improve on that. A better question would be why specifically do you want a replacement camera, and what specifically do you expect to get from that. That will help guide your choice.

What would you recommend then? What's an example of a "different manufacturer with greater vision than Canon"? I don't really know much about Nikon systems, if that is what you are referring to. I have been happy with canon so far and thought full frame would be a good upgrade, but if you have a better suggestion let me know

Your question was upgrade or wait. My suggestion was to wait, because there are going to be much better cameras available next year. Possibly even some from Canon, they can't keep dropping the ball forever.

The improvements the 6D offers come entirely from a larger sensor. But it is still an old camera, and was built from what was then old technology and is now ancient technology. So if that is good for you, then go ahead and drop a few $K on it. Just be warned however that there are going to be much more capable cameras available in 2015. Personally if it were me and for whatever reason had to have a new camera right now, I would get a 70D or T5i and wait for 2015 when the real upgrades will be available.

Who has vision right now? It isn't Canon and it isn't Nikon. Both of those marks are trading on their badge right now.

Sony for sure. They are already ahead and it is looking like they are going to step up to the next level in 2015 with lots of new technology coming out.

Samsung appears to be getting into the game and the new NX1 is looking like a big step forward over existing systems, although I'm sure that there will be the usual first generation minor teething issues with that particular camera. However, that sensor/processor combination is capable of doing 6K video at 240 fps, although that particular mode is not enabled in the NX1. But it means that we should see big improvements from Samsung in the next few years even without additional hardware development. All they would need to do is release new tweeked bodies around the same sensor/processor each year and just enable what the camera is already capable of, and they will have a very competitive system for years to come.

 

[Nethawk]

^^ There will ALWAYS be something much better "next year". What's more fun - taking photographs or waiting for something that doesn't exist yet? Hmm, let me think...

 

[Tugela]

We are in the middle of a paradigm change in camera design, so if you want to invest in the past rather than waiting 6-12 months for the future, then go ahead. Be my guest.

It just isn't smart IMO. He still has his original camera so he doesn't need to stop taking pictures. A 6D might produce better images than what he has, but not massively better, and it is still basically the same camera design so he doesn't gain the advantage of modern technology or in camera tools. If he just waits a bit he will get most likely much better image quality and far superior tools.

 

[drjlo]

We are in the middle of a paradigm change in camera design, so if you want to invest in the past rather than waiting 6-12 months for the future, then go ahead. Be my guest.

It's not even going to be 6-12 months' wait for the next Sony "A9" or Samsung NX1.

I have a cabinet full of Canon L lenses, so I will likely stay put, but if I were OP, with T2i and several consumer-level lenses only, I would not invest into Canon ecosystem currently.

 

[Nethawk]

We are in the middle of a paradigm change in camera design, so if you want to invest in the past rather than waiting 6-12 months for the future, then go ahead. Be my guest.

It just isn't smart IMO. He still has his original camera so he doesn't need to stop taking pictures. A 6D might produce better images than what he has, but not massively better, and it is still basically the same camera design so he doesn't gain the advantage of modern technology or in camera tools. If he just waits a bit he will get most likely much better image quality and far superior tools.

How long a wait is "a bit"?

No one is recommending that anyone invest in the past. It's not the past until the present catches up, and if there is a need/want now waiting for the future is a waste of time. Buy now, sell later. The 6D body is $1340 now through Canonpricewatch, $1940 for the kit.

The big question that hasn't been asked, why the need to upgrade? Better IQ, better low-light performance? What types of photography interest you? Are you more into sports and wildlife, or portraits, landscapes and general photography? In all respects an upgrade may be warranted, but the right path to upgrade is not. If we presume that nobsphoto has done the research and accurately identified that the 6D features and limitations will support his needs, then by all means get the 6D now.

 

[Nethawk]

A pretty good non-canon alternative for UWA prime is the 14mm rokinon/samyang. Very wide angle, pretty darn sharp and also affordable... drawbacks are that you have to get comfortable with a manual setup (aperture and focus are on the lens), but honestly for landscapes, you won't really notice any significant drawback, especially with the extra $2000 in your pocket from not buying Canon's equivalent focal length. It's infinity focus is at about 14-15 feet (if I recall correctly) and stopping it down a couple of f-stops for depth of field sharpness, and I bet you won't know that AF isn't there. If you're at all into night time star shots, it's about as good as it gets... especially for the money.

I've been drooling over this lens, it looks very good. I believe infinity comes in at under 3m, but the one complaint I've heard is that the infinity scale isn't very accurate. This is easy to fix with a bit of experimenting and mental note.

Did you by chance consider the Canon 15mm? For my choice it's between these two, with the 14mm slightly ahead due to price. They are different lenses with similar fun factor, and while you can de-fish a fisheye image you can't fish an UWA Tough decision.

Thanks.

 

[Vikmnilu]

Your question was upgrade or wait. My suggestion was to wait, because there are going to be much better cameras available next year. Possibly even some from Canon, they can't keep dropping the ball forever.

Hello,

I respect the "waiting" decision, but I waited 7 years with a 10D ad was fine. When I bought a 5D mark II I thought why the h*** did I wait that long...

It is good not to be obssessed about the last cameras and stuff but waitig too long isnt good either.

Cheers!!

 

[dgatwood]

By today's prices, 6D is a bargain, but requires lenses with decent sharpness at the image edges.
So do yourself a favor to yourself and get rid of the terrible 75-300mm. The bad news is that there is no substitute for Canon under $ 500. Tamron 70-300mm VC, seems to me the best value for money.

IMO, if you're used to a crop body, you're not going to like such a big loss of reach if you stick with the same focus range. You'd be going from 480mm equivalent to 300mm. That's very noticeable, to such a degree that I almost never take the 1.4x teleconverter off my 70–300L these days.

With my 70–300L, I can tolerate the IQ loss from that 1.4x TC, but even with that combination, I'm seriously considering moving to something longer. I've mainly been waiting for Canon to ship the new version of the 100–400L so I wouldn't be buying a 16-year-old lens design. If you're going to upgrade the 75-300, my advice would be to save your money until you can upgrade it to something with a longer focal length like the 100–400L II or Sigma's 150–600 (if you can deal with its huge size). For now, just get yourself a cheap Kenko 1.4x and swear at it.