What’s Coming Next from Canon?

[jeff89]

That's a pretty big jump, you're effectively doubling the surface area of the front element. The entire lens would have to be redesigned, from each optical element to the body itself. It would be vastly different from the original 100-500: at least 1 kg heavier and bulkier. If it ever came out, it would certainly not cost "only" $4500-5000 and move much closer to the 100-300.
Canon's never done such a lens refresh. If they want to fill the gap, it'll be with a new lens.

To be fair, Craig did say $5000-6000 white tele lens, and i think a faster RF 100-500 L is a more viable expectation than the RF 300-600 f5.6 L in that price point. They made a big splash with the RF 28-70 f2 L, they would make a huge splash with a RF 100-500 3.2-5 L.

This assumes a 70-85% cost increase to producing a lens a full stop faster, economy of scale and projected sales. I have no idea on Canon’s pricing margins, it’s often said Canon’s profits aren’t driven by their top end gear, presumably because of units sold, but when you see them knock $8000 off the RF 1200 L lens, there’s obviously some room for pricing. Maybe that’s why the speculation of a RF 300-600 L in a sub $7000 range.

Again, if I have to speculate, a faster RF 100-500 L is less to make, unless they ramp up their production of the front and other lens elements that they can use in both the RF 100-300 2.8L and the RF 300-600 5.6L and take advantage of the economy of scale, like they did in their 24 MP sensors (R6 and R8) and other shared sensor cameras.

Things that increase costs are the things we all want, internal zooming and fixed aperture, but at the end of the day we will forgo those things based on sharpness, strong weather sealing and cost.

 

[ScreensMatter]

I suspect Nikon and Sony are making $4000-6000 supertele lenses for the same reason.

Canon has always made very targeted products for specific users, hence why we get both RF 100-400mm and RF 800mm f/11 that no other companies have been able to match in affordability. From my observations RF-mount was a rushed launched. The development capacity of lenses is limited and they have had to make priorities. Some user groups have been left out, astrophotography until recently. They had to let in Sigma and Tamron on RF-S. 4k to 6k supertele lenses will probably come someday. For now they can earn more profit making other lenses that either are higher volume or have better margin.

 

[Surab]

I am very curious about the R8 II though I've an inkling that it won't fit what I want. That's ok because the original R8 already does.

I do for example like that the R8 has no ibis, l and thus a moving part less. Makes me much more confident in throwing it into my daily bag with the 28mm on, inside a small pouch.

So let's what they'll bring, maybe the mark 2 will take the larger 6er batteries?

 

[Surab]

For me it was the upgrade to the 100-500 form EF 100-400 II.

If I could only justify it... haha

 

[Del Paso]

Canon really needs to get with the program on the sub 5-figure "not quite the fastest" supertelephoto market.

Nikon (current prices on Adorama):
400mm f/4.5 - $3050
600mm f/6.3 - $4000
800mm f/6.3 - $6000

Sony:
100-400 f/4.5 - $4300
300mm f/2.8 - $6600

Sigma E-Mount:
500mm f/5.6 - $3300
300-600mm f/4.0 $6600

Canon:
Best we have is doubled 70-200Z, 100-500L, or 200-800 non-L (none really competing in this space).

Maybe we can take a break from 9 wide/ultrawide lenses in the last 18 months or so lol
View attachment 229546

No, no, no!
We can only take a break from wide/ultrawide lenses AFTER the introduction of number 10: The 14mm TS-E !

 

[pererik_2000]

R6 mark ii (~USD2400)? All R bodies can adapt EF and EF-S lenses with the converter.
https://www.proshop.se/Kamera/Canon-EOS-R6-Mark-II-Body/3143406
You may even find a reasonable second hand R5 in Sweden for less money.

The R6 mark ii ($2585) has the same 24 Mpix sensor as R8 (currently $1550 in Sweden) but also with IBIS. It is a much bigger and heavier camera. I like the idea of a lightweight camera like the R8 with somewhat better specifications. IBIS and 32 Mpix sensor is my wish. I doubt that a 24 Mpix (3x2) sensor is good enough for 4K video with 1,6 crop and 16x9 aspect ratio.