What’s next from Canon?

docsmith

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Regarding new DSLRs, all I know is that the 5DIV has seen some price drops consistent with being replaced in the next 12 months.
 

ERHP

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I really like my 5DSR but the only thing I've used it for, outside a backup w/100-400 when wildlife comes in too close, is landscapes and macro. If it comes out of 80MP+ this will not hurt my feelings and I'll probably preorder it. Might finally have a reason to buy an RF mount lens or two.
 

SteveC

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Same here. M50 is a great little companion. Just give it a 3 stop IBIS (to make a field experiment), full sensor 4k and one or two wheels for settings, maybe one around the lens base like Powershot S90! And a 64 2.0 macro lens! I would buy two bodies and the lens without a lot of hesitation!
M50 is quite capable. Historically I've used it most with the Tamron 18-200 (first the version meant for APSC, but now the native EF-M compatible one), but I've added that 32 f/1.4 to my stable as well as the 11-22.
 

SecureGSM

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At same magnification it will require no more stabilization than anything else, at greater magnification, well, obviously it will but that is what upping your game is all about. As for DLA figures, again, at same sized output they are meaningless, what difference does it make if you resolve the diffraction blur or not? None, diffraction is the same whatever sized pixel you use.
Because managing 100mb large files for
Screen output and or printing 8” x 12” is
Such a joy. 5dsr was a specialist camera at 50Mb. The new rumoured rig at 80Mb is clearly overkill for run and gun situations.
 
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dtaylor

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the 5DS is a polarizing camera
It fits the use of some very well
others see it as a narrow use camera
This is purely a marketing perception. My 5Ds has taken over everything...including sports, wildlife, and airshows...and the only thing I find wanting is the RAW buffer depth. It's even handling astro very well. I'm not sure why Canon pitched it as a 'narrow use' camera other than to preserve the higher USA price, or why so many reviewers presented it that way. There weren't any real differences (for stills) between it and the 5D3 except of course for that gorgeous sensor, and it handles every photographic situation well. Someone might point out file size or processing times, but you can always shoot in 28mp mraw.

Those looking for a true 5D4 equivalent mirrorless for stills will likely be satisfied by the high resolution R if they just use mraw when they don't want the full 83mp. The drawback will be the price, not a use or situation limiting spec.

Now for video I don't expect the high resolution R to be top of the line. It would be nice to be wrong here, but even the Sony A7r's have lower quality video than their 24mp brothers. It's just too much data to scale down at high quality. But for stills the 5Ds/sR are not actually narrow use cameras, and I don't expect the high resolution R to be either.
 

ddixon

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Until this year I was using an original 6D. I rented a 5div and an R. I liked both, but chose to pass and wait for the next generation. I got an RP to get a toe in the water and really like it. If the new high res mirrorless is $3500 or less I'll get one, but's that probably unrealistic. My ideal would be a simple R mk ii that improves on the 5d and R: 42-50mp, less noise, better DR. If they can throw in 2 slots and keep it at $3000, I'm in. For IBIS I might even pay $3500, but it's not a deal breaker. Again, probably dreaming...
 
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jdavidse

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I don’t need the “pro” R body if that means a 1DX type. What I need is a 5D equivalent, with redundant card slots and at least 8fps. If an 80mp body is what canon chooses to release at this juncture in the schedule, I can only guess that they are consolidating the 5D and 5Ds equivalents into a single camera for the RF Mount. If that is true, then I really hope that they have a solution for those of us that don’t want or need 80mp. Say, 40 or 30mp M-RAW option would be perfect.
 

Quarkcharmed

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Canon have outright stated that is what they consider pro. A LOT of pros consider other cameras pro.
Canon sells 1DxII, 5DIV, 5Ds and - surprise - 6DII as 'professional' cameras. Right on their official Australian site. On the Canon US, those cameras also come together along with M6II, but the section is called 'advanced'.
 

SteveC

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Canon sells 1DxII, 5DIV, 5Ds and - surprise - 6DII as 'professional' cameras. Right on their official Australian site. On the Canon US, those cameras also come together along with M6II, but the section is called 'advanced'.
So hold on here...the M6II is in the SAME bucket as the 1DxII and yet, Canon supposedly won't ever sell an M series lens that violates their self-imposed (meaning marketing imposed) limit on the diameter of the lens because the M series is for beginners who want convenience?
 
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YuengLinger

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Ive got an interesting story as to why im possibly very interested in the high mp canon eos r camera.


over the past two years i felt a bit let down by canon for not supporting the "low budged" wildlife community as much as wished for. I had really hoped for the 7d iii and when the rumors about no 7d iii and only a 90d showed up i was very disappointed.
Then i saw sony announcing and releasing the 200-600 and the a7r iv, which seemed to me like everything i had whished for in a portable wildlife setup, so i bought the camera.

But for the last two months i only had problems with the sony setup. my plan was to use my sigma 150-600 sport with canon mount on a sigma mc11 adapter until i could save enough money to buy the sony 200-600. With the adapted lens i had a big backfocus at 600mm and couldnt really use it. So i speed up my saving and quickly bough the 200-600 but i had the same backfocus on that too, so i sent it back.
I then tested my sony a7r iv with a completly different 200-600 at my dealer and again the backfocus. My dealer then exchanged it against a new a7r iv... but still the same backfocus.
I even sent in bouth of my sony a7r iv for repair but they said they cant do anything about it (only sent in the body, not the lens).

Now im visiting my dad and checked out the camera store near his city and tried out their a7r iv and 200-600 they had... again a backfocus.

I dont know why noone so far has talked about this problem. Maybe they dont pixelpeep enough.
Well ... at this point it seems to me like sony is really a huge let down for me.

So i look forward to that canon, but im afraid it probably wont focus well enough for wildlife, what do you guys think?
Apparently you have decided, "To HELL with apostrophes."

And, read much ee cummings?

"my sweet old etcetera
aunt lucy during the recent

war could and what
is more did tell you just
what everybody was fighting"

and he (ee cummings) didn't even have a smartphone
 

SteveC

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Can you cite a source please? I haven't seen that quote.
Which part? The part about the M6II being in the same bucket as the 1DX? That one can be confirmed by going to Canon USA, looking at cameras, and seeing the M6II is listed in the advanced category. (The R and RP are not.)

The other part, I can't cite a legitimate source for, which is my point.
 

Sharlin

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Huh? Would those pixels be on the mirror?
Added via a firmware update no less!

Jokes aside, a few ideas occur to me regarding OVF DPAF that I'm sure Canon engineers have considered at some point:
  • Make use of main sensor DPAF "snapshots" during continuous shooting to augment discrete PDAF information
  • Replace the PDAF and/or metering sensor with a, say, a few megapixel combined DPAF/metering sensor
  • Rip out the discrete PDAF sensor and secondary mirror and use main sensor DPAF instead
 

Sharlin

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Which part? The part about the M6II being in the same bucket as the 1DX? That one can be confirmed by going to Canon USA, looking at cameras, and seeing the M6II is listed in the advanced category. (The R and RP are not.)
As I noted earlier, Canon Europe only considers the 1D and 5D series "professional" (including the 5Ds). I guess the product divisions are mostly up to the marketing departments of individual Canon subsidiaries.