What’s next from Canon?

[Richard Anthony]

I wouldn't understand why Canon wouldn't release a 5D Mark V.

90% of the job is done.

Body and shape : just re-use the Mark IV, it's perfect
Sensor and DIGIC : just re-use the R5
AF : just re-use the AF of the 1D X III or a "lighter" version of it

Done.

I'd gladly buy such a camera. Throw at it something unique such as a feature to get rid of this AF micro-adjustment thingy and it's a dream come true.

I don't undserstand why you think they would want to , I mean the new R5 is the new 5d , there's nothing in it for them , thousands of bought into the RF system now , they are not going to bring out a 5D now it doesn't have a big enough following anymore .

 

[Philrp]

Maybe a Canon EOS R7 APS-C to replace the 7D MKII...

R6 is not enough?

R6 is double the price. So enough, yes, but those who want a 7D can't afford an R6

 

[BeenThere]

I don't undserstand why you think they would want to , I mean the new R5 is the new 5d , there's nothing in it for them , thousands of bought into the RF system now , they are not going to bring out a 5D now it doesn't have a major following .

The retort would be: Too expensive and lacking some feature in the R5. Perfection in everyone’s eyes is unobtainum.

 

[bbasiaga]

I don't undserstand why you think they would want to , I mean the new R5 is the new 5d , there's nothing in it for them , thousands of bought into the RF system now , they are not going to bring out a 5D now it doesn't have a major following .

I think you're off by saying it doesn't have a major following. Certainly there are tons out there and its an 'easier' upgrade for many already in the EF system.

So i think it'll come down to one thing - how confident is canon that its mirrorless is ready to take over the mantle from DSLR? They weren't ready to hand over 1 series duties yet, but are they ready to hand over 5 series duties?

If the answer is yes, no 5DV. If the answer isn't yes, the next question is when will they be? I think the 5DV would likely be the last of its line if we do see it. Once people get over the mental hump of EVF usage, the advantages seem so many for mirrorless that I can't imagine EF mount survives much longer.

 

[Bert63]

I wouldn't understand why Canon wouldn't release a 5D Mark V.

90% of the job is done.

Body and shape : just re-use the Mark IV, it's perfect
Sensor and DIGIC : just re-use the R5
AF : just re-use the AF of the 1D X III or a "lighter" version of it

Done.

I'd gladly buy such a camera. Throw at it something unique such as a feature to get rid of this AF micro-adjustment thingy and it's a dream come true.

They just did - it's the R5. I think the ship for non-mirrorless cameras at the high end from Canon has sailed.

 

[Sibir Lupus]

An M50 style body with IBIS would be ideal for me. And an extra dial to make changing ISO/Aperture/Shutter Speed much faster would be a great bonus. That's it and I'll have a near perfect everyday camera.

So an M5 Mark II? Its rumored to be coming out this year .

 

[PhotonShark]

R6 is double the price. So enough, yes, but those who want a 7D can't afford an R6

Not double the launch price. But yes, more expensive. $1799 (7Dii) vs $2499.

 

[Bob Howland]

But m6 mII already checks all that,

The M6-2 doesn't have a built-in viewfinder.

 

[unfocused]

I don't undserstand why you think they would want to , I mean the new R5 is the new 5d , there's nothing in it for them , thousands of bought into the RF system now , they are not going to bring out a 5D now it doesn't have a big enough following anymore .

Way to just make stuff up.

DSLRs still constitute a huge share of the market.There will not be a 100% migration to mirrorless in a single generation, if ever.

Canon will not abandon half or more of the full frame market, especially in these highly competitive times when every manufacturer is fighting to hold on to market share.

 

[unfocused]

They just did - it's the R5. I think the ship for non-mirrorless cameras at the high end from Canon has sailed.

Time will tell, but I think that ship is loaded with a lot of 5D Vs bound for enthusiasts and professionals hands.

 

[BakaBokeh]

Wish one of those UWA super fast RF Prime patents came true. i.e. RF 16mm f1.4 or RF 18mm f1.0/f1.2

A flagship EF-M camera? I will pre-order that as fast as I did the R5. Small and light, with IBIS? Yes please. I also wish for a fast ultra wide for EF-M and f2.8 zooms @ 15-45mm, 45-150mm.

 

[Bob Howland]

How its's possible to compare M series with the 7D2?

They both have the same size sensor and can use the same lenses. The M cameras require an adapter but I'm using two Vello and one Canon adapters with a closet full of lenses on an M5, without any problems at all. The build quality and capabilities of a hypothetical M7 are a result of corporate marketing decisions.

 

[CaMeRa QuEsT]

Oh Canon EF-M portrait lens, where art thou?

 

[unfocused]

...the advantages seem so many for mirrorless that I can't imagine EF mount survives much longer...

DSLRs will always have one advantage: the speed of light. No electronic viewfinder will ever match a mirror.

Honestly, I fail to understand the way some on this forum (not you) have an almost religious devotion to mirrorless systems. I use both. I like both. There are advantages to both. I have yet to see anyone make a solid business argument that Canon is going to walk away from the DSLR market or the EF system anytime soon.

 

[twoheadedboy]

Way to just make stuff up.

DSLRs still constitute a huge share of the market.There will not be a 100% migration to mirrorless in a single generation, if ever.

Canon will not abandon half or more of the full frame market, especially in these highly competitive times when every manufacturer is fighting to hold on to market share.

Who is producing and selling significant quantities of full-frame non-mirrorless DSLR's right now? The MSRP on the 5D MKIV is like $1k less than it was at launch. If there was a huge market for these cameras, it would reflected in price stability and new product introduction across the marketplace, not just gearheads whining for a tech upgrade.

 

[AEWest]

I wouldn't understand why Canon wouldn't release a 5D Mark V.

90% of the job is done.

Body and shape : just re-use the Mark IV, it's perfect
Sensor and DIGIC : just re-use the R5
AF : just re-use the AF of the 1D X III or a "lighter" version of it

Done.

I'd gladly buy such a camera. Throw at it something unique such as a feature to get rid of this AF micro-adjustment thingy and it's a dream come true.

Sounds good but it doesn't help Canon push RF glass.

 

[ReflexVE]

Oh Canon EF-M portrait lens, where art thou?

Isn't that what the Sigma 56mm is for?

 

[BakaBokeh]

Maybe one of those cool adapters is RF to EF-M? That with a M5mkII might make the 7D crowd happy.

 

[Sporgon]

I don't undserstand why you think they would want to , I mean the new R5 is the new 5d , there's nothing in it for them , thousands of bought into the RF system now , they are not going to bring out a 5D now it doesn't have a big enough following anymore .

Wrong

 

[davidhfe]

Who is producing and selling significant quantities of full-frame non-mirrorless DSLR's right now? The MSRP on the 5D MKIV is like $1k less than it was at launch. If there was a huge market for these cameras, it would reflected in price stability and new product introduction across the marketplace, not just gearheads whining for a tech upgrade.

The 5D4 (and I own one) was a lukewarm upgrade over earlier cameras at launch. Several years in it does feel a little limiting compared to what mirrorless offers. I wouldn't take the softness in it's price as an indicator. Nikon's releases seem to be doing well on that side (uh, D6 aside lol) and the 1DX3 does show canon is still making investments into DSLR autofocus technology. It does seem like a shame for Canon to never use that AF sensor in another camera?

The catch is that with the potential for global slowdowns, there might not be the market for two "5" series cameras differing only in the mirror box.