what is the body you want to see canon release next ?
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I fear Canon are slowly losing the battle. With news today that Sony will release the A7II in January a 24.3MP 5 axis image stabilised sensor with various other technologies it appears the 25% stake they took in Olympus is working both ways (Olympus gets sensors they get their 5 axis tech). In-camera stabilisation has always made more sense to me than building it in each lens which adds cost & complexity to the lens design.
The 6d I have takes great photographs but I would like at least two more stops and they were mean with the AF points which should at least match the fomer 7d. The toggle from the 7d would be an improvement to the joy pad which is slower to use.
The 6d I have takes great photographs but I would like at least two more stops and they were mean with the AF points which should at least match the fomer 7d. The toggle from the 7d would be an improvement to the joy pad which is slower to use.
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jeffa4444 said:
Anticipating that, Canon probably is avoiding to enter the battle at all. They cannot beat Sony with gadgets, they cannot beat Nikon with value (sensor, features). The reasonable marketing decision is to stay on course and see with how many customers you're left with at the end of the day. To panic in public will only result in critical shareholders and an even more vigilant press.
One point in Canon's favor is that the old-school (d)slr customers tend to be older, i.e. tend to have more money than your Sony/Nikon customer looking for the latest tech or highest value. So if they sell enough pro gear like 1dx+200-400L and keep some foot in the Rebel (dual pixel af) market, they can probably let the enthusiast midrange market slip away w/o doing fatal damage.
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Unfortunately Canon cannot survive on top-end cameras only. Mass market is where the larger investments are amortized & risk mitigated and with the point & shoot market massively shrinking they need good sales in high end compacts, high end bridge cameras & all DSLRs.
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5D MkIV
14 stops dynamic range: probably won't happen though.
2/3 to 1-stop increase in high ISO performance: see above
4k is a MUST, preferably with an h.265-based codec. Smartphones are now capable of decoding this, and in early 2015 they'll be able to ENCODE it as well. What's your excuse going to be, Canon?
Ability to shoot video in CROP modes.
A FULL-SPEED SD slot (or two CF slots). It's a shame I even have to ask for this, but SD is so neutered on the Mk III.
Magic Lantern features built-in: intervolometer in particular. RAW 1080p would be nice, but it will probably never happen.
Built-in WiFi.
Dual-pixel AF: probably the only thing on my wish list that is a sure-thing.
14 stops dynamic range: probably won't happen though.
2/3 to 1-stop increase in high ISO performance: see above
4k is a MUST, preferably with an h.265-based codec. Smartphones are now capable of decoding this, and in early 2015 they'll be able to ENCODE it as well. What's your excuse going to be, Canon?
Ability to shoot video in CROP modes.
A FULL-SPEED SD slot (or two CF slots). It's a shame I even have to ask for this, but SD is so neutered on the Mk III.
Magic Lantern features built-in: intervolometer in particular. RAW 1080p would be nice, but it will probably never happen.
Built-in WiFi.
Dual-pixel AF: probably the only thing on my wish list that is a sure-thing.
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I want a Rebel with a ff sensor that is totally plastic, with a plastic mount (like the Rebel G). Kitted with a new 50mm f/1.8 STM with a plastic mount. 3 AF points. Mad small & cheap yo.
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I'd like a quality mirrorless offering no larger than the AE1 - and an FD adapter for manual use.
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A few ergonomic improvements that I'd like to see for both the 1DX MKII and the 5D MKIV:
* The autofocus points light up in red, and are easy to see, in all autofocus modes
* The camera has back buttons that are backlit for night shooting...like the Nikon D4
* The ability to program the shutter button, so when it is pressed down half way, the autofocus points can be moved with the joystick on the back of the camera....like the Nikon D4
As a former Nikon D4 owner, these are a few of the ergonomics that I wish I had on my Canon 1DX and 5D MKIII.
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* The autofocus points light up in red, and are easy to see, in all autofocus modes
* The camera has back buttons that are backlit for night shooting...like the Nikon D4
* The ability to program the shutter button, so when it is pressed down half way, the autofocus points can be moved with the joystick on the back of the camera....like the Nikon D4
As a former Nikon D4 owner, these are a few of the ergonomics that I wish I had on my Canon 1DX and 5D MKIII.
Thanks
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Gino,
You can control the focus points via the joystick directly now by just a touch of the shutter button when you set them to direct control. See Grant Atkinson's web site; he has an in-depth review of the 1DX and his article covers this point.
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You can control the focus points via the joystick directly now by just a touch of the shutter button when you set them to direct control. See Grant Atkinson's web site; he has an in-depth review of the 1DX and his article covers this point.
Regards
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As soon as Fuji come up with some more megapixels I'm gone. So it's more about what Fuji comes up with as far as I'm concerned.
The images out of my X100s just have so much more than my 5D3, but it's not going to cut it in the studio like my Canon does. So an XT-1 with 24megapixels, or the rumoured Fuji medium format should be enough to bring 20 years of Canon ownership to an end.
The images out of my X100s just have so much more than my 5D3, but it's not going to cut it in the studio like my Canon does. So an XT-1 with 24megapixels, or the rumoured Fuji medium format should be enough to bring 20 years of Canon ownership to an end.
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Harry Muff said:
Seriously? In what way? I have a 5dmk3, and an Fuji X-E2. I sold my X100S so I could have a camera with interchangeable lenses. If an SL2 with a better sensor and more features (like the 70D) I would sell my X-E2 for it in an instant. Don't get me wrong, my fuji's are nice, but when I do professional fashion and portrait work, the quality and AF don't compare to my 5dmk3. I've even shot weddings, and the Fuji, nice as it is, doesn't quite have enough. But it's a great travel/backup camera for sure!
The issue is, I'm planning to get the Sony A9. I do a lot of video and if that body has IBIS, internal 4K, and more- then I really have to surrender my mighty 5dmark 3. Even the A7 mk II is really, really tempting.
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I really want Canon to give me a compelling reason to stick with their pro-DSLRs.
I know they don't owe me personally any kind of answer. I'm just one old man amongst millions and millions of camera buyers. I'm just one miniscule data-point that illustrates someone jumping ship and moving to something else. I'm willing to absorb system transition costs. But... I just got back from le Salon de la Photo and, frankly, the people working behind the Canon counter can't give any clear direction. No whitepapers. No market analysis that supports Canon's product decisions. No clear image quality advantage. Nothing.
I realize I've already offered a reply to this subject... but... I recently picked up a Sony A6000 and, well, my 5D MkII/24-105L kit is being sold. I used the 5D setup for 6 years and it's been my "go-to" system for all my serious shots (in-studio, on location, model/concept shots, product shots, etc). No longer. I've downsized (past-tense).
So... what body do I want Canon to release next (I think that was the original question)? I want a new system. It's a tall order, I know. My list of wants -
If Sony can put this kind of performance into a small, robust package _and_ offer image-making creativity selections, filters, and downloadable software packages, why not Canon?
I know they don't owe me personally any kind of answer. I'm just one old man amongst millions and millions of camera buyers. I'm just one miniscule data-point that illustrates someone jumping ship and moving to something else. I'm willing to absorb system transition costs. But... I just got back from le Salon de la Photo and, frankly, the people working behind the Canon counter can't give any clear direction. No whitepapers. No market analysis that supports Canon's product decisions. No clear image quality advantage. Nothing.
I realize I've already offered a reply to this subject... but... I recently picked up a Sony A6000 and, well, my 5D MkII/24-105L kit is being sold. I used the 5D setup for 6 years and it's been my "go-to" system for all my serious shots (in-studio, on location, model/concept shots, product shots, etc). No longer. I've downsized (past-tense).
So... what body do I want Canon to release next (I think that was the original question)? I want a new system. It's a tall order, I know. My list of wants -
- Sony mirrorless body size with in-body IS
- Sony, Leica, Voightlander, Sigma EX DN E sized lenses
- AF performance equal to the A6000
- 10FPS, just like the A6000
- At least 46mpixel in a FF mirrorless offering (coming soon from Sony)
- downloadable software applications that run in-camera, like Sony's Intervolometer app
If Sony can put this kind of performance into a small, robust package _and_ offer image-making creativity selections, filters, and downloadable software packages, why not Canon?
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