Who is going to buy the new 5Ds's?

[Ruined]

I'm asking because i've been discussing this with my friends, and none of them are interested in the new line of 5D's... perhaps i'm just hanging around a skewed audience, so just curious... how many people are considering it?

For me, it does not seem to appeal... being a general all-found user, I have always like the balance of features in the 5DIII. 50mp does not add much for me, and the loss of FPS will hit me for wildlife as well as reduced native ISO.

I think the 5Ds camera is designed for studio, fashion, landscape photographers.

Personally I'd rather have a 5D4/5D3 + 7D2

 

[surapon]

Yes, I will grab the first batch of 5DS, with out thinking.
Yes, I grab 7D MKII and fell in love with that Baby too, Just another New toy for me, After I work so hard in 2014, and I must have some thing to reward my self----Ha, Ha, Ha.---Yes, I know, This new camera will never make me take the better Photos any ways, Just get the Happy feeling when I touch the New toy, and pretend that the Next Photo might be my Masterpiece---And That might worth my Money.
Have a great Week, Sir, Madame.
Surapon

 

[slclick]

My 5D3 has all I need and more. And at less than 50k on the shutter, I'm good to go. Plus, I know...amazing as this sounds....it will still work when the new models arrive!

 

[RustyTheGeek]

Not me! All I want is a 5DMkIV with the same Mpixels as 5DMkIII with better high and low ISO performance, 8 fps and much better DR (maybe using the Canon Dual-Scale Column-Parallel ADC Patent...).

Yep. Ditto. Along with some built-in wireless radio flash support. Better Weather Sealing. Better Auto ISO settings. Intervalometer. Wi-Fi. USB3. Maybe GPS. A nice laser pointer. Whatever helps me make better pictures. Pretty much everything ML adds. Stuff like that. Give me a better camera. Give me a better sensor. Make my life easier and my pictures better, not just a lot more MP. I have no need for 50-100 Megabyte picture files so I have to buy 128 GB CF cards just to handle a few thousand images.

 

[Bruce Photography]

Tron: Hmmm. let me try first:

1. CaSoNikon.
2. SoNiCanon
3. SoCaNikon

How about NikCanSon or CanNikSon?

 

[Light_Pilgrim]

I was sure I am going to buy it, but now I am not so certain: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/9437515928/olympus-announces-om-d-e-m5-ii-with-40mp-high-resolution-mode

 

[Stu_bert]

I'm asking because i've been discussing this with my friends, and none of them are interested in the new line of 5D's... perhaps i'm just hanging around a skewed audience, so just curious... how many people are considering it?

Um, doesn't this depend on the price, at least an itsy bitsy tiny bit? Sure there are rich folk who buy anything premium and add the 5dsr to their 1dx collection, and pros waiting for this before jumping ship to Sonikon. But for the rest of us, 50mp is probably nice to have, but hardly essential and you have to decide if buying a new/better lens isn't the smarter choice.

Well it depends if you already have all the lenses you need, lol.

Few are going to buy this until they see the details about the sensor I would expect. Anyone who is happy with the quality from the 7D II (and I've not had personal experience either way), could reasonably expect the 5Ds to be at least the same.

Everyone else will see what Sony announces as this will also indicate what Nikon will launch, and then compare to the Canon.

I'm very interested, but the devil is in the detail....

 

[Stu_bert]

You can count me in. I've given a lot of thought to this camera and if it is as advertised I see mostly upside to it.

My passion is nature photography, both wildlife and landscapes. Much of the wildlife photography that I do is on a small scale. Here, in southern Arizona, there are boundless opportunities for about 9 months out of the year to photograph insects, reptiles, and other small creatures. From about March through November I do a lot of exploring with a 180 Macro lens.

It seems to me that the big pixel sensor will allow me to capture closeups in extraordinary detail, beyond anything I've been able to obtain up 'til now. That's a huge selling point. The camera also will be a superb landscape camera, I think.

Now, as to birds in flight. Well, there I see pluses and minuses. On the plus side I should be able to do major cropping and still get lots of detail. I would think that the issue of noise, particularly background noise, should be pretty much taken care of. I'd like to see a faster burst rate. By modern standards 5 fps is slow, very slow, for wildlife photography. But, heck, the 5Diii that I presently use gets me 6, so I think I can live with it.

So, I'm going to be among the first to order the new camera. I'm looking forward to it!

And we're looking forward to your feedback on when you get to use it in the real-world as it will help our decision as well

 

[Stu_bert]

I'm interested in the 5Ds. But all I want is a significant improved tonal range, DR and low ISO performance. Ideally it should be equal or even better than the Pentax 645Z. I'll also wait for the new Sony A7R II before deciding which new camera to buy.

But if you have Canon lenses, then you're comparing a 4K body to a >10K system surely ? Of course this is why manufacturers want to make you sticky to their range...

 

[Stu_bert]

Is the Pentax 645z at $8000 a realistic comparison to a $3600 DSLR? Budget wise they are light years apart and while it may be one or the other for a small handful of folks, it's not where most potential buyers for this are. Oh, and that's before any glass. I'd love to get a 645z INSTEAD OF a new FF body.... but it's not reality. My $8000 purchase is earmarked for the 1DX2 anyway ;D

+1

 

[Stu_bert]

Is the Pentax 645z at $8000 a realistic comparison to a $3600 DSLR?

Of course not, but if you're already leaning toward buying a 645Z, but the 5Ds ends up offering similar performance (which I doubt) for a fraction of the cost, then it is absolutely a valid comparison. Plus, the feature set (AF, FPS, weather sealing, peerless high ISO, flippy screen, outstanding shutter dampening) of the 645Z allow using it in settings and situations where MF previously wasn't even an option, which makes the comparison even more valid. As far as lenses go, you'd be shocked how reasonably priced the legacy Pentax MF glass sells for on ebay. That said, there are probably very few people what will cross-shop these two bodies. I'm just weird like that

Not weird - you can justify spending 10K on a system rather than 4K for a body. Lucky you!!!

When I looked at the Pentax, as expected, landscape & studio lenses well supported. But would I be correct in stating if you have the super-teles, there's nothing in this space, so I would have to maintain a 2 vendor strategy?

 

[expatinasia]

Yes, I will grab the first batch of 5DS, with out thinking.
Yes, I grab 7D MKII and fell in love with that Baby too, Just another New toy for me, After I work so hard in 2014, and I must have some thing to reward my self----Ha, Ha, Ha.---Yes, I know, This new camera will never make me take the better Photos any ways, Just get the Happy feeling when I touch the New toy, and pretend that the Next Photo might be my Masterpiece---And That might worth my Money.
Have a great Week, Sir, Madame.
Surapon

K. Surapon, you are going to need to clone yourself just so you can carry all your gear!! If you buy any more cameras, it may take you 5 minutes just to decide what to take the shot with! Good luck with it, anyway. 555

 

[MickDK]

I was sure I am going to buy it, but now I am not so certain: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/9437515928/olympus-announces-om-d-e-m5-ii-with-40mp-high-resolution-mode

"The E-M5 II also boasts a 40MP high resolution shot mode, achieved by shifting the sensor in half-pixel steps and capturing eight images over a period of one second."

Semi-40 mpix. No thanks

 

[Stu_bert]

Yes, I will grab the first batch of 5DS, with out thinking.
Yes, I grab 7D MKII and fell in love with that Baby too, Just another New toy for me, After I work so hard in 2014, and I must have some thing to reward my self----Ha, Ha, Ha.---Yes, I know, This new camera will never make me take the better Photos any ways, Just get the Happy feeling when I touch the New toy, and pretend that the Next Photo might be my Masterpiece---And That might worth my Money.
Have a great Week, Sir, Madame.
Surapon

If it makes you happy then you should reward yourself! At least you are being honest

But I do concur, you need to be careful about how much more you will carry, and how you will decide what to carry. The latter is a fun problem to have though

 

[Boykinally]

Canon revolutionises resolution with the EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R
London, UK, 6 February 2015 – Canon today transforms the EOS system with the arrival of the EOS 5DS and the EOS 5DS R – a new breed of ultra-high resolution full-frame DSLRs.
Breaking the boundaries of 35mm sensors,the new cameras offer the highest megapixels ever seen in a full frame sensor, an astonishing 50.6MP. Delivering unparalleled quality, the cameras provide an exceptional
combination of resolution, responsiveness and durability, whether shooting landscapes, architecture, high fashion or portraiture, either personally or professionally. When nothing but the sharpest image is expected, the EOS 5DS R also features a low pass cancellation filter to maximise the sensor’s resolution and visible image quality.Alongside the new DSLRs, Canon also introduces the EF 11-24mm f/4L USM, the world’s widest-angle rectilinear zoom lens(1), the perfect companion for landscape and architecture photographers.
Establishing new standards for full-frame DSLRs
Setting a new benchmark for full-frame cameras, the EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R combine fast, instinctive DSLR handling with the newly-developed 50.6MP CMOS sensor, providing the flexibility to shoot a wide range of scenes and subjects, making it ideal for large format mediums, such as advertising billboards and magazine covers, where every pixel matters. The sensor’s advanced architecture provides
ISO 100-6400 sensitivity, expandable to 50-12800, ensuring high quality images with low noise, accurate colours and wide dynamic range.
For added flexibility, the cameras’ resolution enables three new in-camera crop shooting modes–1.3x, 1.6x and 1:1. Visible through the viewfinder, the crop modes deliver outstanding results, with stills at 19 MP even when cropped to 1.6x. Built to withstand the most demanding shoots, the EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R’s dual DIGIC 6 processors provide the rapid performance and responsiveness required
to deliver first-class images with exceptional colour reproduction. Both processors are designed to comfortably manage huge levels of image data from the 50.6MP sensor, whilst simultaneously reducing image noise and providing the freedom to shoot at five frames per second.
Automatically exceptional
Automatically exceptional
Created to ensure every detail of your exquisite landscape or high-fashion studio shoot is in focus, the EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS Rfeature an advanced 61-point AF system, with 41 cross-type points, delivering incredible levels of image sharpness and accuracy across the frame.
Both cameras comfortably maintain focus with moving subjects, using EOS Intelligent Tracking and Recognition AF (iTR) to track both faces and colour. To reduce image blur, Canon’s Mirror Vibration Control System uses cams to drive the cameras’ mirror up and down in a
highly controlled fashion, avoiding all sudden stops and softening the shutter-release sound. Additionally, the EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R’s 150k pixel RGB+IR metering sensor with Flicker Detection ensures images can be captured with consistent and accurate exposures
under varying lighting scenarios, including florescent.
Incredible detail and unrestricted creativity
Putting unrivalled image quality at your fingertips, the EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R include a number of customisable modes and settings to ensure stunning results every time. A new Fine Detail Picture Style maximises the level of detail that can be achieved from the sensor,
enabling advanced sharpness adjustment without the need for edit ing software. Popular creative modes, including Multiple Exposure and HDR, provide instant, in-camera creativity, while a built-in timer allows you to shoot over long periods and create stunning time lapse videos, without being tied to the camera or needing advanced software and excessive kit.
First-class professional construction, customisable features
The EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R have been expertly constructed to allow you to operate quickly, regardless of the environment you’re shooting in. The 100% viewfinder with electronic overlay makes framing vital shots easy and can be customised to your preferred
style. The large, 8.11cm (3.2”) Clear View II LCD screen, with an anti-reflective structure, minimises reflection or glare when reviewing shots and also acts as a visual and accessible dashboard of the most commonly used settings. The cameras’ new Custom Quick Control
screen means that the type, size and position of icons are also easily customisable to the user or shooting scenario.
Both cameras utilise Canon’s iconic design DNA–a highly durable body constructed from high-grade magnesium alloy to provide weather resilient shooting –ideal for landscape photographers who are dedicated to getting the perfect shot, whatever the weather.
EOS 5DS R: Engineered for the ultimate in DSLR image quality
When nothing but the absolute maximum level of detail possible will do, the EOS 5DS R features a low pass cancellation filter to ensure
the sharpest possible results. Great for landscape photographers, where patterns are organic, the camera’s low pass cancellation filter produces the stunning level of detail required to turn agreat shot into an incredible shot.
Optical Expertise: Introducing the EF 11-24mm f/4L USM
The EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R are compatible with Canon’s extensive EF lens range, spanning 71 models(2). Today Canon unveils the
world’s widest-angle rectilinearzoom lens (1), the EF 11-24mm f/4L USM. Perfect for photographers shooting landscape and architecture, the EF 11-24mm f/4L USM is designed to open up an entirely new world of creative opportunities, thanks to its super wide 11-24mm focal range. Boasting a newly designed optical structure, the lens features three aspherical lenses including a ground aspherical element, which
maximises image quality and delivers minimal levels of distortion, while the body is rugged and robust enough to be employed in extreme weather conditions.
EOS 5DS Key features:
50.6 MP CMOS sensor with dual DIGIC 6 processors
150K Pixel RGB+IR Metering Sensor
Up to 5.0 Frames Per Second
61-point AF
Cropped Shooting
EOS 5DS R also includes:
Low-pass cancellation filter
EF 11-24mm f/4L USM Key features:
Explore landscapes from an ultra-wide point of view
The world’s widest-angle rectilinear zoom lens
Minimal distortion – ideal for architecture and interiors
Advanced lens coatings guard against ghosting and flare
Enjoy swift, near-silent AF, with full-time manual override
Keep shooting even in tough weather conditions


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[Stu_bert]

Thanks for posting, but understandably no more details than are present on this site, or indeed CanonWatch...

Will be interesting to see Dpreview's comments as they always get an advanced copy, and where the information will come from about the source of the sensor (fab, design, construct)...

 

[peptrade]

You can count me in - As long as the quality of the images is up to scratch its what I've been waiting for. I am a landscape photographer and I love my 5D Mk III apart from the sensor. This new model looks like they have taken all the best bits from the 5D mk III but brought the sensor up to the latest satandards.
Can't wait

BTW anyone interested in a 5D mk III

 

[max]

I still use mRaw on my 5d3! hahhahaha
No way I would buy one of these!

 

[DigiAngel]

5D3 User here

- nope won´t buy. i shoot couples, weddings, portraits etc. and more megapixel is the last thing i need.

i love my 5D 3, it just works and has all i need expect the sensor is now dated and of course i´d like it to perform more like the D750. so if the 5D IV can at least do that and doesn´t cost a fortune (i have the bad feeling canon will push the specs to the max and charge a lot of money for stuff i dont use) i might take a look at her. the 5Ds though...nothing for me.

 

[EELinneman]

I will likely buy one. My passion is flower and art glass, so the more pixels, the better if they are good pixels. My only question now is do I get the R model or not. I'll wait until I see some real-world test shots and some reviews. Being as invested as I am in EF lenses, it's not cost effective for me to switch platforms.

As far as workflow for 50 megapixel photos, I just had to replace an ageing Mac Pro and got the 5K retina iMac and loaded it with 24 GB of RAM, so I can handle the larger photos. Disk space will always be an issue, but the cost of disks is getting lower and lower. My concern is how to do long-term archival of the files.