Why haven't you left canon?

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#121
Maximilian said:
Marsu42 said:
skip generations ...
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I think, that's the only way to convince Canon to move: vote with your purse!
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The problem that with the market in flux, Canon won't get the message. For example you've got a 7d1 and skip buying a 7d2, how would Canon know you want them to (insert here whatever you want them to do)? Sure, they do their market research, but for every one enthusiast caring about specs there are 10 who don't care and 100 who don't even know what it's all about.

I figure the one reason to make Canon change policy is for well-known Canon pro photogs to (threaten to) change brands and to say so in public or at via internal cps channels. Word is that this was the way the 1dx af system fount its way into the 5d3, while Canon probably had planed to place the 6d af system into it as a slight 5d2 improvement.
 
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#122
No where to go. I like the way how Canon cameras look, menu organization, naming conventions,. It follows that I like the way how canon engineers thinks.

I don't like how sony camera looks. also nikon ones. In my friend circle, I don't like how the nikon user brag a bit, not brag, but they seem to show how excited they are with their camera. really.. almost all nikon user.. like really??! Honestly, their camera looks like a submarine, or a water gun.

And I always see canon white lens on arena,. Canon users tends to be more humble with their equipment.. specially those guys holding 1Dx. seems like it easy for them to take good pictures like that. No effort at all.

I met some rich guys that has Nikon D3s only sitting their home, and set on auto. In contrast to a student holding old wear and tear 5Dii, but never ask for any upgrade.

That's why I stay with Canon.
Not to mention I happen to work in Canon ASIC Dev, happen to step inside CInc Japan.
 
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#123
1) Low ISO
Yes, I also hope to have wider DR at base ISO. But the truth is I have never lifted shadows beyond 1 stop. So far, I have not encountered any serious problem.

2) High ISO
DXOMark may say one thing, but the output of ACR/Lightroom may show something different. ACR/Lightroom directly affect my final output, not DXOMark. So far, I don't see any high ISO advantage with EXMOR sensors.

3) Lenses
They fit my needs perfectly. I cannot say the same for most other brands especially when taken as whole, e.g.,
- Canon 16-35 f/4 has awesome optical quality without the drawbacks of bulbous front elements (missing front threads)
- 100 f/2.8 IS macro when mounted on APS-C gives me 160 mm reach (cannot say the same with current macro offerings from 4-3 family and Fujifilm)
- 70-200 f/4 IS is optically great and lightweight (compare against Sony/Nikon equivalents and all the recent f2.8 offerings from Olympus/Fujifilm/Samsung)
- all EF-S and EF-M STM lenses are optically superb and lightweight

4) Colors
Love Canon skin tones

5) Totally compatible with Lightroom/ACR, no artifacts from RAW
I am looking at you, Fujifilm

6) Dual pixel AF

7) Great range of accessories, e.g., wired and wireless remote without having to sacrifice hot-shoe

8) Generally great ergonomics, e.g., buttons, touchscreen, holdability

9) Customer service (may vary according to where one lives) is great where I am

While the competition may have specific advantages over them, when the Canon package is taken as a whole, it simply offers the best bang for buck for me. ;D
 
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#124
Marsu42 said:
Actually this is the very point that seems to annoy a lot of people (including me): Canon *could* do better if they would want! But they don't see any pressing need because if you can milk the current tech until kingdom come, generating a lot of profit, it "forces" users who don't skip generations to buy gear again after the real upgrade to come.
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It's one of the downsides of the free market, and what would be the alternative? Going too far - forcing Canon to sell the best it can develop at the expense of it's bottom line - would turn Canon employees into slaves.
 
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#127
AcutancePhotography said:
Woody said:
While the competition may have specific advantages over them, when the Canon package is taken as a whole, it simply offers the best bang for buck for me. ;D
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And that's all that really matters -- that the system is good for you and your individual way of taking pictures.
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You'd think so. But then you might read CR forums, where you'd be told your equipment delivers poor image quality and that you have low standards for IQ. If you disagree, you might look forward to being shown a bevy of images processed in an extreme manner as 'evidence' of the superiority of every other system over yours. Fun times...
 
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#128
eninja said:
In my friend circle, I don't like how the nikon user brag a bit, not brag, but they seem to show how excited they are with their camera. really.. almost all nikon user.. like really??!
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Like really, you can't understand how just because you don't like something no one else should? Like really? :o

How dare Nikon users show any excitement about the camera system they choose to buy!!!
 
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#129
What an utterly dumb question to ask.

I am asking myself the exact opposite question, and seriously I am honestly about to completely leave Nikon, despite being with Nikon for even longer than I have been with Canon.

Why?

Nikon has horrific customer service in every possible area, from website and phone ordering to forgetting to screw in all the screws into the back of a lens after repairing it, to NPS, to putting their loyal, long-time authorized dealers and service centers out of business by charging them $107,000 for renewal, etc. The list could go on forever.

Canon has incredible customer service.

End of story.

If you are an actual photographer who actually relies on your equipment to the point that you need service, you need Canon. That's it.
 
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#130
I think once you get into a manufacturer's line that it's not easy to switch, and it is costly too. I have come to know what to expect across the various cameras that I have. Then too, I have a bunch of Canon lens which I have acquired over time. I don't see the benefit versus cost of giving that up unless someone comes out with true earth shaking changes in their system. If I were a Nikon guy, then I would say the same thing.
 
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#131
Oh it's so tempting sometimes I have the 5D Mark II & III camera. I owned the 350D & AE1. Canon is all I know but I'm still fantasizing for the ownership of the 1 DX. Maybe when I fulfill that desire I'll switch... I doubt it. Hold it wait a minute there's the 85mm 1.2, 200mm 2, 400mm 2.8, 600mm 4. and the 800mm 5.6. My eye craves to peer through these great pieces of glass. Yeah it's comfortable here got the smoking jacket on and sipping on some coffee and Miles Davis playing in the background. I'm sticking with Canon for a while :) :) :) :) :) :)
 
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#133
Shhhh! Dont tell anyone, but the real reason i haven't left canon is while not in use, my Canon 5d mark 3 turns into a robot and is keeping me, my wife and children under lock and key... we cant escape... Even my brave dogs are prettified of 5d3 robot machine, or "killer" for short. Killer has threatened to stalk me for all my days if I ever dare switch so for my safety and those in my family, we are Canon for life. But Shhhh! keep it on the down-low
 
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#134
helpful said:
Nikon has horrific customer service in every possible area (...)
Canon has incredible customer service.
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While I cannot personally attest to Canon service being "incredible" since one of my two repairs went really bad its my unscientific impression from forum posts that slightly more people complain about Nikon service than Canon service.

However, I remember that Lens Rentals once wrote about this and I believe the conclusion was that there was no difference between the quality of repairs while Sigma tended to have a somewhat longer turnaround time than Nikon and Canon (as I remember it).
 
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#135
Maiaibing said:
However, I remember that Lens Rentals once wrote about this and I believe the conclusion was that there was no difference between the quality of repairs while Sigma tended to have a somewhat longer turnaround time than Nikon and Canon (as I remember it).
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Their latest data is from last year. To refresh your memory, Canon's average repair turnaround was 5 days...Nikon's was 24 days. Nikon's average cost was 40% higher.

Significantly more expensive and a nearly 5 times longer wait...I wouldn't call that 'no difference'. Would you?
 
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#137
There's simply not enough reason to switch to a different company. Lens choice is great with canon and the equipment hasn't let me down so far. Sure there are certain other features that other camera manufacturers have that beat canon but canon's entire ecosystem is great and more than good enough for me to be able to capture great images consistently. The grass is not greener on the other side but it would cost me more.

Great discussion though. Having said that I'm not opposed to switching systems. I just don't see the need at this stage.
 
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