Why haven't you left canon?
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No reason to. I like the ergonomics of canon, the glass selection and the iq is spectacular. You can't tell what camera was used when viewing an image so why would I think that switching brands would make my photography any better. I just love getting out with my camera... It's the experiences that matter to me, and the satisfaction of bringing home quality images is icing on the cake.
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I have an issue with Nikon's VR.
I was aware of the issue after I had tested the 75-300 VR six years ago but I was hoping Nikon had it solved by now. That is why recently I went into a store testing the VR of Nikon's AF-S 80-400 G VR.
Now my main subjects are wild animals and their sourroundings. So I need this focal range as one of my main tools more than a super-tele. When my subjects are at rest and part of a nice composition, I stop down to achieve maximum depth of the field and will often fire multiple shots to eliminate shake, something which my Canon IS glass always allowed me to do.
The test was done on a D610 in fast burst mode at 1/8 of a second at 400mm. After each single shot, the image inside the viewfinder literally jumped and I saw unpredictable inconsistancies in the results that you wouldn't get with either Canon's nor with Tamron's stabilizer: I did get one or two usable images out of roughly 16 which is ok. But unlike Canon and Tamron, when there was shake it was big time shake. That sort of tells me that the VR will be unreliable even at 1/100 unless firing 16 images. Nikon's VR in burst mode may eliminate shake from some image but it produces it in others! When using Canon's IS instead I trust that each and every image would be sharper than if I had the IS turned of between the mentioned shutter speeds.
That did it for me. I am going to stick with Canon despite the ugliness of lifted shadows I am getting year after year after year after ...
I will add a FF mirrorless from Sony and a Medium Format with Sony sensor pretty soon. I see these as my rescue vessels.
I was aware of the issue after I had tested the 75-300 VR six years ago but I was hoping Nikon had it solved by now. That is why recently I went into a store testing the VR of Nikon's AF-S 80-400 G VR.
Now my main subjects are wild animals and their sourroundings. So I need this focal range as one of my main tools more than a super-tele. When my subjects are at rest and part of a nice composition, I stop down to achieve maximum depth of the field and will often fire multiple shots to eliminate shake, something which my Canon IS glass always allowed me to do.
The test was done on a D610 in fast burst mode at 1/8 of a second at 400mm. After each single shot, the image inside the viewfinder literally jumped and I saw unpredictable inconsistancies in the results that you wouldn't get with either Canon's nor with Tamron's stabilizer: I did get one or two usable images out of roughly 16 which is ok. But unlike Canon and Tamron, when there was shake it was big time shake. That sort of tells me that the VR will be unreliable even at 1/100 unless firing 16 images. Nikon's VR in burst mode may eliminate shake from some image but it produces it in others! When using Canon's IS instead I trust that each and every image would be sharper than if I had the IS turned of between the mentioned shutter speeds.
That did it for me. I am going to stick with Canon despite the ugliness of lifted shadows I am getting year after year after year after ...
I will add a FF mirrorless from Sony and a Medium Format with Sony sensor pretty soon. I see these as my rescue vessels.
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Why would I? No one else has anything close to what I need.
I looked at moving to Nikon. In addition to not having what I really want and not liking their ergonomics, it would have cost me about $8,000 to sell my Canon gear and buy similar Nikon gear.
I looked at moving to Nikon. In addition to not having what I really want and not liking their ergonomics, it would have cost me about $8,000 to sell my Canon gear and buy similar Nikon gear.
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Better selection of glass
better ergonomics
better features such as FPS, AF, buffer, etc
my experiences with canon's customer service and repair has been better than the time I tried with a Nikon
Now that I think ab out it, really the only thing that the competition has over cannon is the newer Sony sensors seem to have better DR and more resolution. And the fact that other brands are actually supporting their mirrorless lines.
better ergonomics
better features such as FPS, AF, buffer, etc
my experiences with canon's customer service and repair has been better than the time I tried with a Nikon
Now that I think ab out it, really the only thing that the competition has over cannon is the newer Sony sensors seem to have better DR and more resolution. And the fact that other brands are actually supporting their mirrorless lines.
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Absolutely no compelling, or even particularly good, reason to. But I do have several good reasons to stay.
I do use the RT flash system a lot, though that could be done with Nikon via the Phottix Odins, I use the 17TS-E a lot and that can't be copied by any other system. I have a $20,000 investment in Canon that owes me nothing and I, and the clients that paid for it, are more than happy with the output from my 7 year old cameras.
If I were to switch to new gear it could only be Nikon, it would still be a DSLR, I would have no size or weight advantages and several lens disadvantages. I would have slightly better IQ in some situations but they are not my normal shooting scenarios, if I sold my current gear and bought closest equivalent new Nikon stuff it would cost me another $10,000, if I bought used it wouldn't cost me much but I'd lose my most used lens.
I am happy with what I have, I would like a 1Dx MkII to have 24MP and then I'd replace my 1Ds MkIII's and I am pretty much set for the rest of my working career, sure there will be ever more improvements, and I'd like them, but I won't pay for them because to me this gear is nothing but tools and anything I spend on them is money I can't spend on me.
I do use the RT flash system a lot, though that could be done with Nikon via the Phottix Odins, I use the 17TS-E a lot and that can't be copied by any other system. I have a $20,000 investment in Canon that owes me nothing and I, and the clients that paid for it, are more than happy with the output from my 7 year old cameras.
If I were to switch to new gear it could only be Nikon, it would still be a DSLR, I would have no size or weight advantages and several lens disadvantages. I would have slightly better IQ in some situations but they are not my normal shooting scenarios, if I sold my current gear and bought closest equivalent new Nikon stuff it would cost me another $10,000, if I bought used it wouldn't cost me much but I'd lose my most used lens.
I am happy with what I have, I would like a 1Dx MkII to have 24MP and then I'd replace my 1Ds MkIII's and I am pretty much set for the rest of my working career, sure there will be ever more improvements, and I'd like them, but I won't pay for them because to me this gear is nothing but tools and anything I spend on them is money I can't spend on me.
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Who says I haven't ??? At present I'm not planning on adding any new Canon cameras or lenses.
I own 2 Canon DSLR and 1 Canon Film SLR, but my most used camera is an old Sony NEX 5n.
I own 2 Canon DSLR and 1 Canon Film SLR, but my most used camera is an old Sony NEX 5n.
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I did buy a Nikon D800 and a host of high end lenses. That's when I found out that the high ISO performance had a ton of noise, and lower DR than my Canon cameras.
If I did not mind the CA's in the Nikon lenses, the almost unusable Live View, and always used IS) 100-400, I'd have kept the camera rather than the 5D MK III.
It would be nice to have the best of all the features in one system, but I had to compromise toward where I do the most shooting.
If I did not mind the CA's in the Nikon lenses, the almost unusable Live View, and always used IS) 100-400, I'd have kept the camera rather than the 5D MK III.
It would be nice to have the best of all the features in one system, but I had to compromise toward where I do the most shooting.
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I liked the lenses and UI and the video. And had been hoping that they'd catch up on sensors again soon enough to not make switching worth it. Now, they seem to be falling behind on video and perhaps not planning to catch up for low ISO DR any time soon, so we'll see. I may partly leave Canon extremely soon, as to totally, we'll see what happens next year and what they have to say. I'd hope not to, but I'm starting to think it may be years before Canon cares at all about low ISO DR and I'm not sure the 5D4 will even let you do video as well as the 5D3 since it won't have ML, at least not for quite a while, so unfortunately I could see leaving for Nikon or a Sony/Nikon mix or something next year.
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I like Canon for most things. Their L-series lenses are generally great (few outliers, like the 16-35 that aren't the greatest). Their ergonomics are awesome. Their AF is excellent. They have a very broad base of software support thanks to their SDK.
I don't care for the sensor IQ at low ISO. I always want better IQ (I don't like my equipment to limit me in any way...not to say that I'm super good, but limitations slow my progress in becoming a better photographer...and I hate fighting with gear or data.) I particularly don't like Canon IQ for landscapes and macro. It's not an end results thing, it's just a workload thing...more work to achieve any given desired result. I have no intention of jumping ship...but I am very interested in adding to my kit to find a solution for my IQ needs.
I don't care for the sensor IQ at low ISO. I always want better IQ (I don't like my equipment to limit me in any way...not to say that I'm super good, but limitations slow my progress in becoming a better photographer...and I hate fighting with gear or data.) I particularly don't like Canon IQ for landscapes and macro. It's not an end results thing, it's just a workload thing...more work to achieve any given desired result. I have no intention of jumping ship...but I am very interested in adding to my kit to find a solution for my IQ needs.
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Because I made a decision. And unless Canon starts using monkeys to produce their cameras then I'll stick with them.
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High cost of transition + the Canon lenses I use the most are just a little better than Nikon's equivalent.
However, started recommending starters to buy in Nikon several years ago (and glad I did).
Really hope that Canon will catch up with the 5DIV.
However, started recommending starters to buy in Nikon several years ago (and glad I did).
Really hope that Canon will catch up with the 5DIV.
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Because they're the best 
Edit: The only Nikon I've ever owned was a film P&S (before DLSR) and it was run over and crushed when I got out of a cab at my son's graduation. Bad Karma 8)
Edit: The only Nikon I've ever owned was a film P&S (before DLSR) and it was run over and crushed when I got out of a cab at my son's graduation. Bad Karma 8)
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Because I hate Nikon. ;D I have used the D3s and all the later ones and the way you have to use a Nikon, from holding it to how buttons are placed and how it's operated feels like they have made it that way just to laugh at me trying to shoot with them.
And frankly, the lenses and the whole Canon system offer much more of what I love and want. The only thing that wowed me a bit was the raw file flexibility of the A7r, but that offers nothing more than that, to me.
Mirrorless and crop cams are of no interest to me.
And the biggest reason is that the 1dX is tailor made for me and I miss nothing (a bit of play on words there)
And frankly, the lenses and the whole Canon system offer much more of what I love and want. The only thing that wowed me a bit was the raw file flexibility of the A7r, but that offers nothing more than that, to me.
Mirrorless and crop cams are of no interest to me.
And the biggest reason is that the 1dX is tailor made for me and I miss nothing (a bit of play on words there)
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