will the samsung NX1 steal the show?

[Khufu]

I've got an NX11 (~14mp generation) and the NX1000 (20.4mp, i think?) and yeah, a lot of the above applies. Dodgy unfinished product wifi features, the modes change and hijack the screen to tell you about it when you're not touching the dial - But as far as lens options go, Samsung are all over that shit in ways EOS M users dream about. The 16mm f/2.4 is fantastic (though I've take mine apart to piss about with on the EOS M) and the 30mm f/2 is brilliant, as someone's already mentioned. They also have a fast 85mm, some macro and 3D things and a very nice looking stabilised 16-50mm f/2-2.8 to go with this NX1!
Their JPEGs are abysmal for modern cameras though - lines and artifacts all over the place when you're not set up for bright sunlight. Their little flash unit is fantastic, tiny little shoe-mount-powered flippy thing and I got me an off-camera flash cable which makes it great for close up portraits with at-arms-length 45-degree type flash... I put masking tape over the front and it warmed and softened it

 

[Gantz]

Famous Samsung source Redcrow spilled out some more tidbits about the next 1499 Euro expensive high end Samsung NX1 camera and most importantly confirmed the specs we posted few days ago. This is what he writes:


Design: it is THE NX flagship! look just like any other DSLR Flagship. buttons and wheels.
Sensor: definitely not a normal CMOS sensor. either BSI or ISOCELL.
Engine: Brand new Drime engine, multi-core powered.
Continuous shots: Yes, 15 fps with tracking. (Not confirmed full image or not)
2nd gen. PD AF: More than 200 PD sensors from corner to corner on the image sensor. 154 cross sensors among them.
Card: Support UHS-2 memory card.
Lenses: 50-150mm F2.8, another 'S' Lens is coming.

 

[Steve]

Design: it is THE NX flagship! look just like any other DSLR Flagship. buttons and wheels.
Sensor: definitely not a normal CMOS sensor. either BSI or ISOCELL.
Engine: Brand new Drime engine, multi-core powered.
Continuous shots: Yes, 15 fps with tracking. (Not confirmed full image or not)
2nd gen. PD AF: More than 200 PD sensors from corner to corner on the image sensor. 154 cross sensors among them.
Card: Support UHS-2 memory card.
Lenses: 50-150mm F2.8, another 'S' Lens is coming.

Samsung swinging for the fences. This is why tech underdogs are great to have around. If that on sensor PDAF works and tracks well, hooboy...

 

[Lawliet]

If that on sensor PDAF works and tracks well, hooboy...

Key factors would be processing power(shouldn't be a problem), being able to read the sensor fast enough to avoid choppy data and worse excessive subject motion during the readout (lets see; but it sound promising), leaves us with the software, thats a wildcard.

 

[Steve]

Key factors would be processing power(shouldn't be a problem), being able to read the sensor fast enough to avoid choppy data and worse excessive subject motion during the readout (lets see; but it sound promising), leaves us with the software, thats a wildcard.

Oh yeah, it could fail spectacularly if its clunky. Who cares about 15 blurry frames per second. I can't see myself ever buying a Samsung camera (even though I have two computer monitors, a tv, two phones, and a tablet made by them) but I would love for one of these niche cameras to just crush it and make the big guys look bad enough to shame them into innovation. Now that EVF's are good enough for action, that basically just leaves good on-sensor AF as the only major chokepoint in ditching the mirror completely.

 

[dgatwood]

Guys, guys,

Don't let the negativism of other threads here going on in this thread. Hp and Samsung both are very respectable companies and have very qualitative products. However, not every product is a topper, which is also not the case for Canon products. I have much more excellent product references of hp and Samsung then the impression that's created over here.

I've used about a dozen different models of HP printer. Every single one, whether a laser or inkjet, black-and-white or color, exhibited serious banding problems in gradients. They make very robust products that last a long time, so if that's your only measure of quality, they're great, but if image quality is a concern, they're universally a disaster as far as I can tell.

I'll readily admit that my experience with three different Samsung consumer products and my serious consideration of a fourth (only to reject it after finding numerous Amazon reviews saying that their refrigerators died within warranty and couldn't be fixed after multiple service attempts) isn't quite enough to call a pattern of epic fail, but it certainly doesn't meet my criteria for "respectable company". When your reviews look like a graphic EQ, with an approximately equal number of 5s and 1s, something is wrong.

Canon, Nikon, sure. I'd shoot with cameras from either one in a heartbeat. Panasonic, yes. JVC and Sony have been hit or miss. But by the time you get down to Samsung and LG, you're solidly into "cheap" territory, where it looks to me like there's a great deal of corner cutting to hit a price point. LG seems to be slightly better than Samsung in that regard, but you still have to scrutinize every model to make sure you aren't going to get a dud.