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If the specs are tr.ue
If the specs for the D5000 are true, Canon appears to be getting their proverbial butt kicked from a perception standpoint.
- Bali-angle LCD, 2.7 inch?
- D movie image editing and enhanced scene mode
- Silent Mode AF
- 11-point target tracking AF
- ISO3200high sensitivity support
I'm not a spec person, but for an entry level camera.. specs can lead to sales. Consumers love specs!
From Nikon Rumors
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Well, Canon still haven’t played their 2000D card. They could at the very least supply it with an articulating screen. Seems unlikely, but who knows?
Canon and Nikon play the waiting game to get one up on the other. Nikon is usually better at it, but occasionally, Canon (5D2) wins as well. Canon is usually very predictable.
Until Canon puts someone in charge who is willing to take more risks and push the state of the art ahead in leaps, not steps, they will remain prediciable.
They put out excellent but conservative products with a lot of good solid technology that is miles ahead of most of their competition, except Nikon.
Unfortunately, it is unlikely that the 2000D will be any better than the just-announced 500D.
Or could Canon unleash the dragon and enable some new features in a firmware upgrade?
Although I doubt Nikon will include full manual control for their D-Movie mode in the D5000, they will probably will in D400 / D800.
So forcing Canon to give what customers deserves: MANUAL CONTROL over the features of the camera.
Customers and users deserve to be respected, these are not P&S cameras, so why a DSLR camera allow full manual control for still mode, but doesn’t allow it for video mode?
Even for entry-level cameras the still mode can be full manually controled.
Video mode MUST be implemented in the same way, along with Auto/Program mode, just like in still mode.
Even entry-level DSLR will carry manual control in video mode too in near future, as it MUST be.
Nikon may force Canon do what they should have already done.
Business people should stop locking features, in respect to customers loyalty.
The D5000’s rumoured list price is 84,800 yen.
versus 89,800 yen for Canon’s 500D/XTi/KissX3 (cf. yodobashi.com)
I completely agree. I just want to add that Canon is a cheap cheater –
they say in white paper that there is CONTROL over DOF using your
feet and lenses. Apparently the feet part is quite separate from
the section Canon mentions “control found in pro video cams”.
Really shame on you, Canon.
Feel free to laugh over Canon, and please post this link everywhere:
http://www.cinema5d.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=553&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=118a1b511300cb8d2741c77707057960
looking at the original japanese postings as well as the stills taken from the commercial shoot.. i think the “bali-angle” translation should read as “vari-angle”.
ie, an articulated screen. aww canon, pipped at the post.. again.
nothing official yet, but apparently no video and no swivel flash….
Max you give us Max’s a bad name! lol.
It is unofficially official. Here’s a link to a shot from Nikon Sweden…
http://press.nikon.se/pressbilder/D-SLR/Q770/D5000_LCD_1_l.jpg
Now I’m extremely jealous that my 5DII doesnt have a flip screen. :( Not only for better angles but to protect it when not in use. It’s a great feature.
It’s hard to believe it, but Nikon messed up the vari-angle screen – you can’t position it to the left or right of the camera.
The whole idea is that you can brace the camera against your belly, view-camera style, and look down at the screen.
Yes, I know that answer from Canon.
Please take a look at:
http://5dmark2.wordpress.com
Yeah, the hinge at the bottom is pretty useless. Shame :(
Looks like a clone of the TSi.
hehehehe sorry… cool name btw
nikonrumors says no video but it does seem to have a microphone so i am not sure… dont want to say its official yet, but if most people think canons new products are dissapointing this is a mayor disapointment
I have just convinced a colleague to go for the Nikon D5000. Perhaps I will jump ship soon… just waiting for Nikon to slap VR on their 17-55 f/2.8 lens.
Well as long as the addition of manual control do not add bulk to the lens or body then it is okay, but if it requires adding an aperture ring to the lens, then no way. And hey, dSLR is not a video camera, if you want a video camera, get a video camera instead. Geez…
+1 to that. I just bought the Canon 17-55mm and plan to stick to Canon DSLRs regardless….
but will patiently await the VR in the Nikon so I have a choice on which brand to side with
and well the specs are true.
You fail to address that a side-mounted hinge would interfere with all of the control buttons located along the left side of the camera. You use the buttons 100% of the time, whereas you use a swiveling LCD significantly less of the time. After all, this is a DSLR first, and a camcorder second, as it should be. As for not being able to use it at waist height, just use a monopod attached to your belt.
The Nikon D5000 has a 230K pixel screen, the Canon Rebel T1i (500D) has a 920k pixel screen. Bummer.. I think the 920k screen is much nicer then a swiveling screen. I know there are a lot of other feature differences but I really dig the high resolution screen on the Canon for liveview manual focusing and post picture focus checking. I was really hoping Nikon would opt to do the same. To each their own, they both seem to be great cameras.
Read all about it at DPR
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0904/09041402nikond5000.asp
Good specs but not in the same class as the T1i I would say. And a lot of people are jumping ship. I will wait to see if the 60D/7D will be a big step up before I consider jumping as well.
Still has crippled AF due to no ability to focus without AF-S lenses. Canon has nothing to worry about. You shouldnt judge Camera companies by their cheapest models. It’s quite stupid tbh. Articulated screens are not on my wishlist due to the fact that they might not take the abuse.
It’s very tempting for amateurs though.
Do you really know what you are talking about?? And do you know what AF-S stands for?
well now that’s true… F***
i wonder how its going to compare to Canons new rebel line. i believe that will be its competition. Really doesn’t matter if i was trying to decide to buy either of them. its just going to show who’s ahead in the game. betcha its nikon with the less megapixals and larger photosites(dont know if thats what its called or if thats the correct spelling)
From DPReview preview specs:
Movie:
• File format AVI (Motion-JPEG)
• Image size (pixels) 1280 x 720; 24fps, 640 x 424; 24 fps, 320 x 216; 24 fps
• Audio: Monaural on/off selection
• Exposure: Determined with matrix metering utilizing output from the image sensor
• Exposure lock available
• Exposure compensation available in P, S, A, M modes <— would it mean Manual control available (M) or just compensation for movie auto-setting when in Manual still exposure ??
• Maximum single clip length: 1280×720/ 5 minutes, others 20 minutes <— still sticked to 5 mintues like in D90? this might be related to some overheating? weird
Yes, i do. What kind of a question is that? Sheesh.
D3 is just a 5D sensor in a pretty new casing. In fact, it’s got .6 less megapixels (that’s 600 thousand for some of you handicapped to calculate) so that it would beat a three year old camera in noise for 4 times the price. Oh wow!
Nikon still lives with the little bit it has of fanbase that used their bodies 30 years ago (and their kids) .. Sigh :)
Without Canon this whole concept of a modern SLR would have not been here.
So it has an articulated screen (vari-angle), well done (it’s useful as in my very old but still well liked Coolpix 5400), it’s really the only spec that’s better than Canon’s 500D (but from reading the specs the Canon screen is actually better). Everything else is in Canon’s favor. 11 autofocus points vs. 9 are immaterial, movie mode is not better than Canon, doesn’t have the jog wheel, has lower ISO. I don’t think Nikon won that war.
Nikon goes the “creativity” route while Canon goes down the “tech”-road. The swivel screen will make you play and find new perspectives on subjects, while more pixels will do what? Maybe improve focusing macros on a tripod in LV mode – well, that’s a rare case, especially for a rather entry-level camera. And viewing pics on the screen? Well, a DSLR is intended for different purposes, really. Of course more pixels would have been nice, but isn’t the swivel the more interesting option?
I agree… a 920K screen is much better than a 230K articulated screen.
hi all,
Just wondering is there Mirror Lock Up for 500D,D5000 and D90? Considering the three models.
well, truth is, even though i own an entirely Canon system, i feel nikon got something right that canon didn’t. They put a D90 level AF into their entry level, followed by an actual Kelvin scale, something only us in Canon get with the xxD series. Not even the 500d has it. And these are PHOTOGRAPHIC features. Sure, the 500d has ISO12800, but if it’s like the 50d, i’d give that up for the better AF system. The only reason i use the center focus so much on Canon xxxd is coz it’s the only one i rely on. and notice, i’ve not even said a thing about the swivel screen…
It’s 720p video, half the 5DmkII’s resolution, and a rather useless format for anyone seriously wanting to shoot HD.
The swivel LCD is a smart move though. I had one on my old G1 P&S and loved how you could shoot overhead or low or side positions without having to plant your face directly behind it to get a shot.
You can use the swivel LCD for stills too. You might find yourself using it far more than you might think at first.
Looks like they are serious about getting the P&S market over to DSLR… With the features of the simple shooties, like nice screenies, flipscreenies, upside-down screenies, oh, and you know what? We’ll even give you videomode (ssshhh, we’re crippling it a bit but don’t tell). To me the question is still whether it delivers nice photos (in good hands), and not how shiney the photos look on the built-in screen.
AF might be nice though, Canon really needs to upgrade that… The 1D-AF would be nice, at least on 5D2 and/or X0D series.
I really fear you hit a nail with the ‘specs get you buyers’ :(
yeah, seems impractical with a tripod…
You need a swivel screen to be creative?
LPr
apart from swivel-lcd lovers, why would anyone buy this over the D90? The price is more or less the same and I’m guessing the IQ of the D90 will be slightly better…
silly statement…. Nikon has closed the market share gap considerably as of late. It’s not a bunch of washed out photographers from 30 years ago….. Fan boys are idiots.
I am a canon user btPr
Although I’m not sure I like the bottom swivel…so much for using it on a tripod with self timer to get yourself in the pic! I like the one on the Canon SX1 IS, and I’d love to see that replace the back-only ones on their DSLR line.
I know the HD 720 is smaller resolution and also the codec is pretty old.
My only guess is about the manual possible settings for movie mode, but I really doubt there is any in this entry level DSLR.
The big chances are for the upcoming D400 wich will probably include Full HD and some Manual Controls (if not Full)
And yes, the swivel LCD is a very good move (could have been already done before…it has been years since it exist and proved to be very useful in many situations, if well built, of course)
why would you guess the D90 will be better? The D300 is no better than the D90 IQ wise. Nikon will have three cams with the same IQ now…Just like Canon will have the 500d and 50d with same IQ….
In the case of the XSI vs. the 40D the IQ advantage actually went to the newer XSI even though it was far cheaper…
for the same reason the 500D has a 20fps 1080 mode instead of 24/25/30
seen some examples now. The D5000 seems to have a pretty nice quality when comparing jpgs.
A swivel LCD does help to not have to be laying on your belly on the ground to get a ground level shot…
Yes true. There’s nothing in the Nikon D5000 press release about manual controls in movie mode nor any word on a mic input (and yes, AVI – Motion JPEG codec is old and big, so how long one can shoot per clip is likely very short), and while the D400 may bump things up to full HD (probably AVCHD MPEG4?) I’m not so hopeful about manual controls on it. My guess is the next generation of DSLR-HD’s will add manual control.
By all means is that a good thing. Im not saying that Nikon should be banished like most of people comparing cameras. I’m just saying that this really ain’t something that will drop Canon off the market. It’s just a amateur camera with a articulating screen for gods sake. Nothing special, moving on.
I myself use both Nikon and Canon, but mostly Canon because of their superior lenses for my use. (MP-E and 85L mainly)
Nikon has not been doing anything revolutionary in a big while now. They build mediocre cameras that lag behind Canon’s technology made for users that dont demand the best, but something that will just get the job done. I agree that Canon is very annoying at some bits and is very stubborn to give amateurs any so-called “pro” features, but why should they? I could honestly say that 90% of users that actually have a amateur camera like the Canon 400/450/500/1000D or Nikon D40/x/60/80/90 dont have the slightest clue even about basic stuff like exposure.
It’s just cool to have a ‘big’ camera nowdays and this – even though you may be stubborn to claim otherwise – is just a camera for kids to go to school with to raise their self-esteem. Too bad kids concentrate on megapixels more than anything else and for that use, this camera is not the best one out there ;-)
Most of photographers dont go out in their best clothes either. Read my post below. I think it explains well what is the target audience of this camera, which is obviously not a photographer, but a kid with a severe acne. :)
That sounds like you’re actually changing from an amateur level camera to another? Man. I dont want to be rude, but that sounds kinda stupid. You shouldn’t judge camera companies by their amateur level cameras.
It’s your choice, but you’ll notice soon enough that you just climbed into a tree ass first :)
Well, being they are shooting video on DSLR’s they are certainly video cameras now too…and from what I’ve seen the 5DmkII is shooting some of the most beautiful video ever.
lol well we agree on the target market of the camera, but I’d still rather not lay on the ground to get a shot. And last time I was in a crowd trying to shoot over people’s heads I was wishing my 1Ds had a swivelled LCD on it so I could aim it accurately.
That is because Nikon 18-55mm is good optically (but cheaply built), while Canon one is completely useless. I would imagine they may perform similarly with 50mm primes.
Funny thing about all the “photographers” posting comments about how real photogrpahers dont need or want a video mode in their DSLR…reminds me of when auto focus came out and all the pros making light of it as an amature feature! Now they are whining about not enough autofocus points. lol
Canon has been sucking wind lately. And the Real Chuck Westfall is not assuaging the masses. While the gap with Nikon is not enough to eat some trade-in value on my Canon glass, I would choose Nikon today if I had to start over from scratch.
All this talk from Nikon fanboys about the masses of Canon shooters switching is a joke.
Nikon gives camera systems away to news and sports magazines and schools, so sure, a certain amount of pros might be using Nikons when they were using Canon before, but I dont see tons of people selling their L glass collections to switch.
Well..the battle of which camera to use starts at the amateur level. When people decide they want to graduate from P&S. they dont go straight into the higher level SLR not to mention the FF cameras.
THey’ll shop around for the low end SLR, which ever they like most. Then it grows from there. They start buying lenses for that camera, then learning more about photography and buying for stuff for that brand. before you know it…you’re too vested into the brand so it’ll be hard for you to switch to a different brand when you want to go FF or whatever.
They are targeting the new comers and turning them into loyal customers.
I’ve read really good Article on what Brand to go for. The write states that you shouldnt look at what Brand the body you want to use, because a very large chunk of your money is going to be spent on the Lenses. So you should look into which lens producer you want to go with. Better quality, IQ, and all that stuff. you’re buying a camera afterall and a camera takes what? Pictures.
So with that being said…i think Canon’s got Nikon beat with the lenses.
T1i beats D5000 this time. Nikon first blunder.
“I could honestly say that 90% of users that actually have a amateur camera like the Canon 400/450/500/1000D or Nikon D40/x/60/80/90 dont have the slightest clue even about basic stuff like exposure.”
Wow can you say marginalizing. Really I have read your other posts and did not expect you to be foolish enough to put a stereotype onto users of those cameras. Not everyone has the money for full frame cameras or even a semi-professional dSLR. You are making some very foolish assumptions.
“In fact, it’s got .6 less megapixels (that’s 600 thousand for some of you handicapped to calculate) so that it would beat a three year old camera in noise for 4 times the price. Oh wow!”
“Too bad kids concentrate on megapixels more than anything else and for that use, this camera is not the best one out there ;-)”
A bit of a contradiction or you are classifying your self in the group of “kids” that your so quick to make an assumption about yet again. I understand that you are loyal to Canon obviously, but there is no need to cling onto the fact that because Canon started the “whole modern dslr concept” that they are still superior to anything on this planet. The fact of the matter is both companies are equally capable at performing practically any job you can throw at either camera company.
Essentially it comes down to the truth that the photographer makes the photographs and the camera is only a tool to aid he/she in that process. Which ever brand you choose is your choice and does not make you better or worse than someone else from the other. This fanboyism is just childish.
Cameras are just tools. Well said. Though I think I’d agree many of the entry level DSLR users probably dont understand the manual features on their cameras and shoot on auto.
You are right; I do not have the intention of going from one entry level camera to anther. HOWEVER, what I have done is compare cameras targeted at a similar audience: 500D vs D5000/D90, 50D vs D300, 5D2 vs D700, 1D3 vs D3, 1Ds3 vs D3X, and I only see Canon products lagging behind their direct competitor in almost every case. I am not just talking about camera features, but more importantly, about sensor performance.
In EVERY case, the Canon sensor has poorer dynamic range at low ISO compared to its direct competitor.
That is the strongest reason to switch camp.
Bravo! Well said. Even the xxD camera does not provide more than 3 shots per exposure bracketing instant. Sheeesh… hasn’t Canon heard of high dynamic range photos? And I have not even talked about how poor Canon sensor dynamic range is at low ISO comapred to their competitors.
that’s a silly comment as most if not all nikon lenses geared at the market for this camera ARE already AF-S.
In fact, most nikon lenses at this point are AF-S. The only people wishing to use the older non-afs lenses are those who will not buy this camera to begin with. So I don’t see any crippling going on here. All I see is nikon moving on with the times.
except most people don’t really think that hard about buying stuff. honestly, unless you are commited to spending thousands and thousands on lenses, your choice of nikon vs canon is pretty irrelevant. most folks will just own a couple of zooms if they even move beyond the kit lens to begin with.
that’s pretty fanboyish of you to say. The D3 was lauded as a game changer in iso performance, speed, dynamic range, af-system easily trashing the megapixel’s mith.
if you just count MP yeah, canon was ahead. what about dynamic range, iso performance, AF-system, FPS speed?.
you are coming across as pretty ignorant ATM.
“Nikon has not been doing anything revolutionary in a big while now. They build mediocre cameras that lag behind Canon’s technology made for users that dont demand the best, but something that will just get the job done.”
didn’t the D3 best the flagship canon’s high ISO performance? didn’t the D3 have better dynamic range? What about the 51point AF system, yet to be matched by canon even years later? even pushed to even their mid-range DX D300 line? what about the world’s first video DSLR? what about the D3X’s IQ gains at 24+MP.
sure canon has made some nice advances too, but to say nikon hasn’t done anything is equivalent to sticking your head in the sand and pretent eveyrthing is ok. Where do you think canon would be if nikon hadn’t pushed them. do you think the 5DMII would be what it is now?
I’m all for quality products from canon, but I recognize the competition has done revolutionary things and wish they keep at it. in the end, it is better for everybody.
they both give away gear man. this is common knowledge.
canon’s mainstream lead remains there but it has been decimated in the last 5 years with nikon gaining on them hugely. the last canon stronghold (pro and news market) is similar to the last nikon stronghold back when canon became even worthy of using in the film days.
In this regards canon is pretty safe for a few more years. pro’s who invested in a lot of $ glass won’t switch because of a model or two.
nikon was quite entrenched in film and took them awhile to transition. they are out of those woods now and it’s interested to see how they are now the agile kid going against the entrenched one. Plus sony entered the market and while they are not taken seriously yet, they are a huge tech company with a lof of R&D muscle and capital which shouldn’t be underestimated.
the nikon d90 has faster fps, flash commander mode, built in servo for -D type lenses, better screen, larger better prism, better battery, ability to take battery grip, and generally better features for the more serious guy.
overall it is pretty much better than the D5000, not just a little better.
I’m not sure it “beats” it.
http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Nikon_D5000/verdict.shtml
I’d say they are pretty well matched with neither really knocking each other out of the ring.
Nikon has not always been ahead of Canon’s sensors, so to switch every time one company gets an edge up seems quite foolish to me. Every time you switch you take a huge hit financially.
I’ve been watching this dance since 1975. Canon makes their own chips, and their R&D department alone is massive. If not for Sony’s chips, Nikon would still be trailing in the sensor department. And in a year or two Canon will do what they always do periodically, set a new standard that Nikon and everyone else will spend the next five years catching up to. Then what? You’re going to sell all your Nikkor glass and switch back? lol! At this point they are both fine systems and all the talk about switching is completely silly. Wait a few months and the other company will catch up anyway.
Yep. And without Sony and it’s R&D, Nikon would not have the chips they have now. Personally I think they are both fine systems and it would be foolish of anyone to switch back and forth. At least until a truly new standard is reached leaving one way out front for a number of years, as Canon has historically been the one to do, and I suspect will do so again at some point.
My point about Nikon giving away gear is in regards to claims of mass DSLR switching from Canon to Nikon, which is a fanboy myth fueled by people pointing to news or sports photogrpahers who’ve gotten free Nikon gear, and obviously not meant to imply Canon doesn’t loan out gear too. The Nikon increase in market share is mostly new DSLR users, a market which has been growing rapidly, not from vast switching pros or masses of people vested in a decent lens collection.
Actually considering the price range of this camera there is just 5 or so AF-S lenses that are affordable. Affordable being 1200 dollars tops.
That is kind of a mindless comment since, by your reasoning, ALL modern canon’s have “crippled AF” as they do not rely on an in-camera motor to drive AF, opting instead for an in-lens AF motor.
That was directed at Finn’s AF comment by the way…
Only 5 affordable lenses? You think that’s too few? Statistics show that most DSLR owners own between 1 and 2 lenses. This especially applies to casual photographers, who are the target demographic for the D5000. Guaranteed you’ll see the kit 18-55vr or 50-200vr on most of the D5000’s you’ll see in the wild anyways.
No it isn’t. Canons 18-55 IS version is a tad better than the Nikon VR. The 50’s are broadly equal as well.
Finn, you’re just of mindless comments tonight aren’t you? 1) The D3 isn’t that new, 2)Canon uses proprietary chips, so the mere inference is idiotic, and 3) The 5D and D3 in no way have similar dynamic range or high-ISO IQ.
I’m a little disappointed in both- Nikon for using the same old video function from the D90 which, truthfully, isn’t the best (rolling shutter and such), and Canon for sabotaging their video with odd (20fps???) frame rates. It was refreshing to see Nikon offer the same AF, sensor, and nearly the same frame rate (photo) as their higher priced model. It will be interesting to see how this affects their D90 sales- similar to when everyone thought the D700 would undercut the D3.
D90 has 4.5 fps vs D5000 at 4 fps. I won’t call that difference significant. :) And how many people buy the battery grip… 10%?
Honestly, I don’t consider D90 to be MUCH better than the D5000: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond5000/ …as long as the things that matter (imaging sensor, speed, AF sensor, metering sensor, built) are not too different.
How much does Canon care? They sold 4 million DSLRs last year, compared to 25 million P&Ss. What percentage of those DSLRs were 1 Series? Maybe 5%? The pro market has practically zero effect on their bottom line compared to the consumer stuff (don’t forget their huge video camera segment too); any utility comes from using pro sports shooters in their advertising, and they’re *always* going to be able to do that.
That P&S to DSLR migration is never going to be dependent on features or picture quality, at least for the vast majority of people. Most won’t consider a DSLR because it’s so much bulkier than a P&S.
well, if canon doesn’t make a full frame (FF) affordable camera, maybe a cheaper 5D (7D…), then I would consider the change to Nikon, given my Canon full frame lenses aren’t anymore of much value (my wide zoom is now senseless).
The DLSR market is growing again, and selling a P&S means no accessory sales. So you have to factor in all the lens, flash, grip sales there too, and from what I’ve been told the DSLR/Lens sales are much higher profit margin than the P&S cameras where every company on the planet has a cheap competitor including the cell phone/iphone industry. Canon may run the race like the proverbial turtle but they often surprize everyone by how far out ahead the can suddenly get.
Canon sabotaging their camera? That is just silly. It was marketing move because the chip they put in wasn’t up to full HD 24 fps but with Panasonic unveiling the GH1 with full HD some marketing moron pushed to get the Rebel 1080p released at what it could do – a pathetic and useless 20 fps. That doesn’t mean they sabotaged it down from 24. It’s a 720p camera in reality that got pushed higher for marketing specs and the next generation will probably have a better chip that can handle full HD.
The only place FF really matters is wide angel. Why don’t you get a 10-22mm EF-S lens giving you a 16-35mm equivelent until a lower priced FF comes along? That would cost you a lot less than switching. Personally I like having both FF & 1.6 sensors and I have a 50D around for wildlife for the extra reach over my FF cameras. One of my favorite lenses is the 135mm 2.0 L and sticking it on a 50D makes it a 216mm 2.0 L. I’d love to see a 1.6 sensor in a tougher high end body but I’m not holding my breath.
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10123047
Looks like it will be on sale May 8th
well, it seems that NIKON (D5000) try to hit CANON EOS 500D/T1i market and IMHO, Canon won’t let their 3 digit products (Rebel series) compete with NIKON’s new 4 digit series (D5000).
For me, the line up looks like below :
1Ds Mk III vs D3x
5D Mk II vs D700
50D vs D300
500D/T1i vs D90
1000D/Xs vs D5000
*1D Mk III doesn’t have competitor from NIKON
But, again IMHO, this is the scheme that NIKON want to compete CANON with their latest product :
1Ds Mk III vs D3x
5D Mk II vs D700
50D vs D90
500D/T1i vs D5000
What NIKON want is always try to compete with CANON on price, that’s why they launched D90 to compete with CANON’s 2 digit series (40D) and then CANON hit back again with 50D and their 450D/Xsi replacement to compete with D90. Now, 500D/T1i hit back again with D5000.
I believe soon or later there will be Xs replacement (which is cheaper than 500D/T1i) because D5000 will take their 500D/T1i market.
anyway, I could be wrong….
A quick search on Amazon of the two companies current body lineup and what seem to be general price match ups:
D3x……..$7690
1Ds mkIII..$7000
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1D mkIII…$3840
D3………$3500
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5DmkII…..$2700
D700…….$2300
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D300…….$1259
50D……..$1108
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D90……..$890
40D……..$875
D80……..$850
T1i……..$800
D5000……$730
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D40, D60, Various Xs Rebels…
So shoot your HDR scenes in 14 bit raw and use the extra bits to extraopolate additional exposures. Avoids registration and subject motion issues for the dozen or so people for whom HDR is important.
The lack of a good leave-on zoom is the biggest thing giving me pause the D700. Nikon has been adding DX lenses while discontinuing some of their sparse FF lineup. The inflated prices of what they do have are another minus.
What I’m saying is that none of those five lenses necessarily appeal to the generalist. In at least one case they had a decent midrange zoom (albeit not as long as I’d like) where they discontinued the AF-S version but still sell an older, more expensive, and inferior predecessor.
FF also matters for DOF concerns, and higher ISO results due to less dense sensors, for those who shoot indoors
Well, those are fairly minor differences or tradeoffs depending on what you are needing to do and what are your shooting priorities for a shot (low light vs. more shallow DOF vs. increased magnification).
Photography has always been about tradeoffs depending on your priorities for a givin shot, and to expect one camera to do everything for bargain pricing just doesn’t seem realistic to me.
I do think Canon should come out with a lower priced FF body, but I’d also like a higher end body 1.6 sensor as I’m not a fan of tele extenders. Still not holding my breath.
The articulating screen is a good feature. However, Olympus implemented this better in the E-620 with side hinges.
http://a.img-dpreview.com/previews/olympuse620/images/screen2.jpg
Nikon could have done that and relocated the buttons to the other side, above or below the screen. This looks similar to (but better than) Sony’s folding screen implementation on the A350:
http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/SonyDSLRA350/Images/sony_a350_Screen.jpg
You can rest assured that Canon would lower the price if they feel the pressure of the D5K eating their sales.
I have mixed feelings about this camera. The bottom-swivel LCD is more attractive than a fixed LCD (of the same resolution), but I prefer the side-oriented articulation of the Oly E-620. Having seen the video from the D90, I’m not very attracted by that feature. And the D5000 isn’t that much smaller than the D90, which remains a superior camera and ships with a more useful kit lens. It seems to me this is aimed at first-time buyers. Those who are more familiar with camera features and have a better understanding of what’s on the market will go with the D90.
That said, amongst those looking only in this price range, I think this camera will compete very well with the T1i/500D, which doesn’t impress me too much. Nikon have done well with the market positioning of their products recently (D300/D90/D5000), giving those considering Canon plenty of good reasons to go with Nikon. In fact, most of the people I know or have seen with DSLRs have Nikon. At some point Canon will have to compete more aggressively in order to maintain their market share.
good for detail
i like nikon d5000 d40 d80 d90
It won’t be better speced. All Canon have to do is supply a fully articulating screen with the 2000D while at the same time keeps the screen resolution at 230K. This will better differentiate the product from the 500D and give it more character rather than merely being a re-badged 450D.
2.7 inch is good
i like
I have shot on the 7d2 and the video codec (h.264) unleashes hell for compatibility sake when trying to use a pc. Lots of conversion work. So honestly, in a cineform workflow, this codec, though old, makes it much easier to convert to a more useable format for say after effects and premiere.
Just to add, I am also proficient in avid and final cut. There are advantages to each of these. CS5 will improve premieres competitiveness.