Patent: 83mp full-frame image sensor from Canon

KirkD · Sep 9, 2019

Well, I'm glad to see this kind of technology, but I don't need to make wall-sized enlargements, nor see the bacteria in the pores of my subject, nor do I want to haul around a 300 pound tripod to keep cameral shake so small that even 83 mp is sharp (unless Canon comes out with the IBIS to be able to use this sort of hi-res sensor). I'm an outdoor photographer and shoot mostly hand-held. I get more excited by HDR than by hi-res. Still .... I'm a sucker for new tech, and I feel that old "I want the latest" urge.

Maximilian · Sep 9, 2019

It was expected after the 32.5 MP-Sensor of the 90D/M6 II.
Too much MP and too big files for me, but good for all that need/want it.
I always welcome the possibility of choice.

Trey T · Sep 9, 2019

Made for pixel peepers - literally!!!

Sharlin · Sep 9, 2019

Combined with the ridiculously sharp RF lenses, this should really give medium format cameras a run for their money, especially given that it's likely a much better general-purpose camera than any MF body. Will probably directly challenge Fuji's "mediumish-format" GFX 100 (which, remember, costs almost ten grand!)

Gazwas · Sep 9, 2019

Yipee, let's hope they announce this soon so I don't have to buy yet another Sony A7r(IV) and can start buying some RF lenses.

High MP with dual card slots is all I need and the rest of the specs I can live with so please Canon don't mess it up.

This could possibly be the first camera I've ever pre-orderd.

uri.raz · Sep 9, 2019

What, no 250MP? Canon is *******, ******* I say, is *******!

Bob Howland · Sep 9, 2019

So how many pixels will the 1Dx2 replacement have? My guess is 20.75MP because low light capability is more important than more pixels to a professional sport shooter shooting indoors. Or maybe both 83.06MP and 20.75MP, with a multiple gain sensor to improve DR.

canonnews · Sep 9, 2019

as we wrote today in our update, it's not a simple matter of taking a Canon APS-C sensor and simply "scaling it" to full frame unless Canon has updated their full-frame fabrication equipment yet again. Right now with what we know, for Canon to do an 83MP full frame sensor would involve some creativity on their part.

i_SH · Sep 9, 2019

Sharlin said:
Combined with the ridiculously sharp RF lenses, this should really give medium format cameras a run for their money, especially given that it's likely a much better general-purpose camera than any MF body. Will probably directly challenge Fuji's "mediumish-format" GFX 100 (which, remember, costs almost ten grand!)

In terms of shallow depth of field, it can even outperform the Fuji GFX 100, given Canon’s significantly higher optical speed.

peters · Sep 9, 2019

KirkD said:
Well, I'm glad to see this kind of technology, but I don't need to make wall-sized enlargements, nor see the bacteria in the pores of my subject, nor do I want to haul around a 300 pound tripod to keep cameral shake so small that even 83 mp is sharp (unless Canon comes out with the IBIS to be able to use this sort of hi-res sensor). I'm an outdoor photographer and shoot mostly hand-held. I get more excited by HDR than by hi-res. Still .... I'm a sucker for new tech, and I feel that old "I want the latest" urge.

I personaly think its a nice upgrade. I do some weddings where I would love to have more options to crop. I also do landscapes where I like higher resolutions for big prints. Also our product shots could greatly benefit from a higher resolution where retouching and cutouts are way more exact

neurorx · Sep 9, 2019

Bob Howland said:
So how many pixels will the 1Dx2 replacement have? My guess is 20.75MP because low light capability is more important than more pixels to a professional sport shooter shooting indoors. Or maybe both 83.06MP and 20.75MP, with a multiple gain sensor to improve DR.

It would be wonderful to have a 1dx replacement with about 30 mp so it would be competitive with Sony’s offerings ( A9 ii is rumored to be in the 30 mp range).

RayValdez360 · Sep 9, 2019

Sharlin said:
Combined with the ridiculously sharp RF lenses, this should really give medium format cameras a run for their money, especially given that it's likely a much better general-purpose camera than any MF body. Will probably directly challenge Fuji's "mediumish-format" GFX 100 (which, remember, costs almost ten grand!)

but that camera has ibis and probably much better dynamic range. and of course more MP.

Gazwas · Sep 9, 2019

RayValdez360 said:
but that camera has ibis and probably much better dynamic range. and of course more MP.

Rumours are Canon will have ibis next, dynamic range doesn’t make any difference to IQ and the difference between 80MP and 100MP is not that great.

I know which camera and lenses I’d prefer to shoot......

Canon1966 · Sep 9, 2019

When...? Maybe in 4 years...

Go Wild · Sep 9, 2019

Cameras are good, better, top, bottom or not so good, depending on our kind of photo....If you need resolution this will be awesome! From this point, we don´t know yet the usability of this sensor, if its going to appear on a mirrorless camera, or dslr....It could be the sucessor of 5Ds, it can appear in a mirrorless EOS R. Guess we need to wait for see. I don´t think DSLR market is dead, but do think it will be less "important" in the future, so at this time, I think it will make sense to make a 5dsII, but only Canon can answer to this and decide to go on DSLR or fully on mirrorless.

From my needs, despite is great to have such a huge MP sensor, I would love to see the new 1dxIII soon, or a 1dxIII equivalent in mirrorless.

If, and IF this sensor goes on a mirrorless really don´t know if i can see myself buying just because the huge number of pixels, that will increase the amount of data to cards, computer and external hard drives... 40/50 MP for me is kinda the limit...I even think 61mp from Sony A7rIV is too much, but this is for my needs. I prefer a fast and less noisy camera, than the amount of pixels. However....Pixels means resolution...its so nice to have a great resolution camera! I imagine to make a landscape photo with 83mp...

Happy to see Canon is developing....NowI just hope they can deliver this faster that the last rumors....

Sharlin · Sep 9, 2019

RayValdez360 said:
but that camera has ibis and probably much better dynamic range. and of course more MP.

We don't know whether the coming Canon body is going to have IBIS or not. The ~10% difference in linear resolution isn't exactly massive. Whether the extra stop in DR is worth the 3x price and inability to use potential existing EF lenses… well, I guess YMMV.

Tom W · Sep 9, 2019

A natural projection of the new 32.5 mpx 90D/M6 II sensor. If that sensor is as good as some are saying, then this will be a really nice body from Canon. They'll certainly have the top-notch glass for it.

Now, as for the 1-series, mirrorless or DSLR, I'm thinking that a new 30-32 mpx sensor will be coming out, a true update and step up from the already-good 5D4/R sensor, with an even better DR, an improvement at high ISO, full-frame 4K, and wickedly deep buffer.

I got scolded on another forum for suggesting it, but I think the next 7D will also come out at the same time as the new 1-series. Canon going full throttle with the sports cameras all at the same time.

edoorn · Sep 9, 2019

Whatever the number of mpix will be, I just hope they also give us an mraw option with a higher fps

CanonFanBoy · Sep 9, 2019

KirkD said:
Well, I'm glad to see this kind of technology, but I don't need to make wall-sized enlargements, nor see the bacteria in the pores of my subject, nor do I want to haul around a 300 pound tripod to keep cameral shake so small that even 83 mp is sharp (unless Canon comes out with the IBIS to be able to use this sort of hi-res sensor). I'm an outdoor photographer and shoot mostly hand-held. I get more excited by HDR than by hi-res. Still .... I'm a sucker for new tech, and I feel that old "I want the latest" urge.

I would imagine this would never be released without IBIS.