candyman said:

Canon EOS R7 is still listed on Canon Europe. And being sold in shops in the Netherlands

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You are right, just checked it again, possibly temporarily . I only checked canon.nl, where it (now?) indeed shows.
Rest assured - I did triple checked before I posted. Still something funny happening….

Mr. Warbucks said:

@canonrumors _ can you please check? I am from The Netherlands in Europe and the R7 is not available anymore at the official www.canon.nl site. ChatGPT indicates that production has stopped ???!!!
At least very remarkable

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Canon EOS R7 is still listed on Canon Europe. And being sold in shops in the Netherlands

@canonrumors _ can you please check? I am from The Netherlands in Europe and the R7 is not available anymore at the official www.canon.nl site. ChatGPT indicates that production has stopped ???!!!
At least very remarkable

Kiton said:

Get rid of that stupid movie-stills / menu data in the screen and I will be happy, anything else is a bonus.

WTF thought that was a good idea to make a permanent feature in the display!!!

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What? You don't like this wonderful message? I cannot get enough of it.
For me, it's a perpetual source of bliss!

Get rid of that stupid movie-stills / menu data in the screen and I will be happy, anything else is a bonus.

WTF thought that was a good idea to make a permanent feature in the display!!!

Hector1970 said:

Firmware upgrades usually don’t add too much of value. You hope but little arrives. It would be nice if they slipped in an Easter egg like the Hall of Tortured Souls in Excel 95. It would put the toggle button to good use.

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Patch notes promise much,
Blank screen, no Hall of Souls found,
Toggle button waits.

Tonight on a walk around the river at 30 meters with a plastic toy for 800 dollars, 503 mm, 1/400, 1250 iso, 100-400 mm + TC 1.4: https://adobe.ly/4wfWlSf

Click said:

Very nice sequence. I really like the bird's pose in the first one. Well done!

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Thanks, Click!

tleasa said:

A feature that I would love to see but I've never even seen it brought up before would be: Focus stacking where you could focus close, mark it, (push a button?) focus far, mark it and then have the camera calculate the required focus points between and shoot them.

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That would certainly be an easy way to do it. Not sure if any other cameras offer that feature, it’s how nearly every confocal, multiphoton, and widefield deconvolution microscope I’ve used for the past couple of decades has collected Z stacks.

Firmware upgrades usually don’t add too much of value. You hope but little arrives. It would be nice if they slipped in an Easter egg like the Hall of Tortured Souls in Excel 95. It would put the toggle button to good use.

A feature that I would love to see but I've never even seen it brought up before would be: Focus stacking where you could focus close, mark it, (push a button?) focus far, mark it and then have the camera calculate the required focus points between and shoot them.

josephandrews222 said:

R5MkII and 200-800 @ 800

Summer Azure

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It looks like our tiny Holly Blue, which I captured in flight (not pre-capture) as well as perched 2 days ago.


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AccipiterQ said:

I remember the first time I picked up the R7 after buying it...I thought "uh oh". Like you said, felt cheap, like a toy. Noise is awful by modern standards, the subject detection in anything other than "subject against a blank sky or wall" for me was atrocious. So disappointing.

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What I do is very demanding with high cropping of images of birds etc in poor light and high shutter speeds and using lenses like the RF 200-800mm that have narrow apertures and not overly sharp. So, I am at the limits of noise and resolution. Yet, I can squeeze out more detail from the R7 than I can on the R5 and R5ii. Ok, the AF is not a patch on the R5ii, and the rolling shutter means I don't use ES where fast motion is involved. The R7 is like most cameras in that if you play to its strengths, work around its weaknesses and use DxO for noise control, it is a very capable camera. I often go out shooting with my wife where I use the R5ii (or R5) and RF 100-500mm and she the R7 and RF 100-400mm, or I use the RF 200-800mm and she the RF 100-500mm, and her images of the same subjects are barely worse in IQ than mine. For BIF, the R5ii is unbelievably good and not many other bodies can compete with or beat it.

I am praying for any eye focus software improvements.

GMCPhotographics said:

Both are vastly superior cameras in every aspect except equivelent reach. The R6iii's buffer depth is a joy to behold.
For me, the R7 feels like a toy. The buffer has little depth, the AF isn't a patch on my R5 / R6ii and it's over a stop noiser than my R5...over 2 stops noiser than my R6ii. If I want that kind of reach, I'll use my R5 and crop (then upscale later). I'd rather that than having a camera that constantly delivers files that i'm not happy with.
My concearn with the rumoured sensor in the R7ii is centered around lens optical sharpness. The R5 already stresses lens optical sharpness enough...the R7 will push those requirements even higher. Geeze, even a RF 70-200/2.8 Z might look a tad soft on that sensor! We could be seeing a sensor that resolves over 1.0 at 50 l/mm.

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I remember the first time I picked up the R7 after buying it...I thought "uh oh". Like you said, felt cheap, like a toy. Noise is awful by modern standards, the subject detection in anything other than "subject against a blank sky or wall" for me was atrocious. So disappointing.

MkSprintz said:

Wouldn't be surprised if they just recycled the 32.5mp sensor and just upgrade the image processing unit and call it done. We'll see what happens in 2028 most likely, as I don't foresee anything earlier than November 2027 at the most likely if they do release an R7ii.

The R7 itself is still a solid camera, probably why I still keep it as a backup to the R6ii I use as my primary camera body. Have thought about selling the R7 and maybe getting the R6iii or an R5ii.

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Both are vastly superior cameras in every aspect except equivelent reach. The R6iii's buffer depth is a joy to behold.
For me, the R7 feels like a toy. The buffer has little depth, the AF isn't a patch on my R5 / R6ii and it's over a stop noiser than my R5...over 2 stops noiser than my R6ii. If I want that kind of reach, I'll use my R5 and crop (then upscale later). I'd rather that than having a camera that constantly delivers files that i'm not happy with.
My concearn with the rumoured sensor in the R7ii is centered around lens optical sharpness. The R5 already stresses lens optical sharpness enough...the R7 will push those requirements even higher. Geeze, even a RF 70-200/2.8 Z might look a tad soft on that sensor! We could be seeing a sensor that resolves over 1.0 at 50 l/mm.

R5MkII and 200-800 @ 800

Summer Azure

Tom R5R7 said:

Honestly, one of the things that might have made the R5 II (that's mk two, not eleven) quite possible for birding is the affordable RF 200-800 f/6.3-9 IS lens. While it's not quite up to L standards, it presents a focal length range similar to the 100-500 on an R7, takes teleconverters well, and has pretty decent optical quality, especially given the price.

I'm experimenting this bird migration season with the 200-800 on my R5 rather than the 100-500 on the R7 that I've used these last couple of years. I can attest to the fact that the IS works really well. Granted, it's a little bit slow at the long end at f/9, but in terms of noise, f/9 on the R5 is at least as good or better than f/6.3 on the R7, plus you get more pixels on the subject. I'm thinking that it's a good tradeoff and may well end up with the R5 II in the future.

Whereas I'm comfortable going up to even ISO 12,800 for the occasional shot on the R5, I'm inclined to keep it at 6400 or below on the R7.

My ramblings...

So, a shot with the R7 with the 100-500 at 500 mm f/7.1 taken wide open at 6400 ISO may have a little more noise than a shot taken with the R5 at 800 mm (similar framing) f/9 taken at 12,800 ISO. And to make the equivalent exposure, you would use ISO 10000 on the R5 which would produce an even cleaner image. Based on the PDR charts on Photonstophotos.net , the R5 is about 1 to 1 1/3 stops cleaner than the R7 in the 3200+ ISO range.

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The AF of the RF 200-800mm is significantly better on the R5ii than on the R5.

AccipiterQ said:

I wonder if reality is just that the in-hand product just wasn't much better than the R7. I know some folks here really like the R7, but for me, it was the first time I was disappointed by a Canon product that I used.

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Wouldn't be surprised if they just recycled the 32.5mp sensor and just upgrade the image processing unit and call it done. We'll see what happens in 2028 most likely, as I don't foresee anything earlier than November 2027 at the most likely if they do release an R7ii.

The R7 itself is still a solid camera, probably why I still keep it as a backup to the R6ii I use as my primary camera body. Have thought about selling the R7 and maybe getting the R6iii or an R5ii.

Very nice sequence. I really like the bird's pose in the first one. Well done!

I have my gear covered as a rider on my homeowner's policy.

Maybe you need a new agent/broker or a new insurance company? I've done this for many years with two different insurance companies, and I've had no issues with either company. The first was State Farm who we had since living in CA, but they have no agents in MA and stopped writing new policies here long ago. I dealt with their 'policy service office' to drop gear that I sold and add gear that I bought each year. We switched when we moved to a new house in the same town 9 years ago, and we're now with a different insurance company through a local insurance broker.

I'm sure you'd need to show your proof of purchases, regardless. I did when we switched insurers, and when I buy new gear I just send my insurance broker a pdf of the invoice (usually from B&H) and they add it to the policy (likewise, when I offload gear I just email them and they remove it).

I pay 1.3% of the value of the covered gear for full replacement coverage, worldwide including theft/loss. I don't put the small stuff on the policy, only gear costing >$1K is on the schedule, but the total is well north of $50K. My broker didn't bat an eye at that when we opened the policy, she just said send me a list and the receipts.

Gear coverage on a homeowner's policy is only possible if you don't make money with the gear. If you do, you need to look for 'inland marine' coverage. I suspect you're going to pay a substantially higher rate for that type of standalone coverage.

Hi Guys, here's a Yellow-headed Blackbird catching a little snack!

Tom R5R7 said:

Honestly, one of the things that might have made the R5 II (that's mk two, not eleven) quite possible for birding is the affordable RF 200-800 f/6.3-9 IS lens. While it's not quite up to L standards, it presents a focal length range similar to the 100-500 on an R7, takes teleconverters well, and has pretty decent optical quality, especially given the price.

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I do think the RF 100-400, 600/11, 800/11 and 200-800 are part of Canon's strategy to increase the shift to FF MILC bodies. All of them provide good IQ and far more reach at substantially lower cost than was available (from Canon) for DSLRs.

Very nice macro.