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Tom R5R7 · Apr 28, 2026

neuroanatomist said:
Not that Canon cares about individual buyers, but still I hear someone at HQ saying, “Mwaaaahaaaahaaaa, our plan continues to succeed!”

Honestly, one of the things that might have made the R5 II (that's mk two, not eleven) quite possible for birding is the affordable RF 200-800 f/6.3-9 IS lens. While it's not quite up to L standards, it presents a focal length range similar to the 100-500 on an R7, takes teleconverters well, and has pretty decent optical quality, especially given the price.

I'm experimenting this bird migration season with the 200-800 on my R5 rather than the 100-500 on the R7 that I've used these last couple of years. I can attest to the fact that the IS works really well. Granted, it's a little bit slow at the long end at f/9, but in terms of noise, f/9 on the R5 is at least as good or better than f/6.3 on the R7, plus you get more pixels on the subject. I'm thinking that it's a good tradeoff and may well end up with the R5 II in the future.

Whereas I'm comfortable going up to even ISO 12,800 for the occasional shot on the R5, I'm inclined to keep it at 6400 or below on the R7.

My ramblings...

So, a shot with the R7 with the 100-500 at 500 mm f/7.1 taken wide open at 6400 ISO may have a little more noise than a shot taken with the R5 at 800 mm (similar framing) f/9 taken at 12,800 ISO. And to make the equivalent exposure, you would use ISO 10000 on the R5 which would produce an even cleaner image. Based on the PDR charts on Photonstophotos.net , the R5 is about 1 to 1 1/3 stops cleaner than the R7 in the 3200+ ISO range.

AccipiterQ · Apr 28, 2026

neuroanatomist said:
As I’ve stated before, the 7-series historically has been the least frequently updated.

7D – 2009
7DII – 2014
R7 – 2022

The line moved downmarket with the R7. The concept of a ‘flagship APS-C’ isn’t really relevant. Lens sales are very profitable for Canon, they likely want high-end users to buy FF bodies and lenses.

Yup....That's the conclusion I reached as well. I remember making a comment here that the R7 wasn't a real successor, and you said "It is a successor..to the 90D". I bought the R7 at launch and never picked it up again after using it maybe 6 or 7 times. It just isn't flagship or even 'prosumer' to me. I actually used the 7Dii a few times after I put the R7 down, but largely stuck with the R5. While the rumors on the R7ii looked pretty good, I wonder if reality is just that the in-hand product just wasn't much better than the R7. I know some folks here really like the R7, but for me, it was the first time I was disappointed by a Canon product that I used.

John D P · Apr 28, 2026

Peter Ebel said:
you can do this with the M-Fn button by programming one custom function with pre-capture and the other without.

I hadn't though of that. I use the M-fn button in the "C" function, so I can toggle thru my custom presets. Thanks.

neuroanatomist · Apr 28, 2026

Chig said:
It results in a very bright 140mm f/1.4 lens as it's a focal length reducer

I love how some people think the crop factor magically increases focal length without affecting anything else, and other people think a speed booster magically makes a lens faster without affecting anything else.

I mean, it has 0.71x right in the name. Or maybe, people are just bad at math and think 0.71 × 200 = 200.

Chig · Apr 28, 2026

dbyolton said:
I would like the option to killl warnimgs on the R5 Mark II. I photograph a pair of coyotes at night using a 200mm F/2 lens and the unsuported but very functional 0.71x EF to RF adapter. It resuts in a very bright 200mm f/1.4 APC lens. But I get a warning message every time the camera wakes up from sleep. It is so annoying. I know it isn't officially supported. You've told me thousands of times Canon. Just let me shut your warnings up!

It results in a very bright 140mm f/1.4 lens as it's a focal length reducer

Chig · Apr 28, 2026

John D P said:
I want to be able to program a button to toggle pre shooting off and on. Otherwise, I'm good.

All you have to do is not half press the shutter button when you don't want it active.

Peter Ebel · Apr 28, 2026

John D P said:
I want to be able to program a button to toggle pre shooting off and on. Otherwise, I'm good.

you can do this with the M-Fn button by programming one custom function with pre-capture and the other without.

Peter Ebel · Apr 28, 2026

R1-R3 said:
The only thing I am really hoping for is pre-capture assignable to a button.

You can do: Assign precapture to the custom function of your preference and use the M-Fn button to activate.

dbyolton · Apr 28, 2026

I would like the option to killl warnimgs on the R5 Mark II. I photograph a pair of coyotes at night using a 200mm F/2 lens and the unsuported but very functional 0.71x EF to RF adapter. It resuts in a very bright 200mm f/1.4 APC lens. But I get a warning message every time the camera wakes up from sleep. It is so annoying. I know it isn't officially supported. You've told me thousands of times Canon. Just let me shut your warnings up!

ERHP · Apr 28, 2026

A few shots since the holidays. R5 MK II w/RF600 f/4L IS with and without the 1.4x

A Gray Catbird after taking a drink.

One of the two juvenile Brown Thrasher's skulking around in the later afternoon light.

Having a zoom or at least a selectable TC lens might have helpful when this male Pileated Woodpecker stopped by.

First time I've seen a Green Heron just fly into the water but apparently it worked.

Posing Green Heron.

Leucistic female Wood Duck checking out a potential nesting cavity. She later had thirteen ducklings but now down to four.

And a Gadwall Drake letting me get his good side.

R1-R3 · Apr 28, 2026

The only thing I am really hoping for is pre-capture assignable to a button.

josephandrews222 · Apr 27, 2026

AlanF said:
Green Stink Bug.

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M6MkII with adapted EF100-400II @ 271mm (35mm equivalent)

One more green stink bug

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josephandrews222 · Apr 27, 2026

R5MkII and 200-800 @ 800

A male Indigo Bunting (transitioning into breeding plumage)

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...due to operator error (ISO was at 400 from earlier in the day; I only had one chance for this image and in fact missed out on a much brighter blue bird), the time of exposure for this exact shot is 1/30s.

...image acquired during the grilling hour for dinner; overcast day so conditions were far from perfect for a pristeen image (one that pops!) such as the crop of a nice image of an American Robin below.

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But I like the shot of the Indigo Bunting above...if nothing else to show the capabilities of Canon's gear...in the hands [literally] of an enthusiast of modest skill.

Handheld @ 800. Exposure time 1/30s.

My oh my.

neuroanatomist · Apr 27, 2026

Tirmite said:
195fps??? I've never seen that option on my R3. 30fps is the max setting. Did you get yours turbocharged?

Added with Firmware v1.2.0. See Custom high-speed continuous shooting at:

Canon : Product Manual : EOS R3 : Selecting the Drive Mode

brianb2011 · Apr 27, 2026

Exploreshootshare said:
The R8, albeit not being a great all-around camera, is the closest thing you'll get to a perfectly small, compact ff and very capable camera for occasions you need or wish to pack light. Just a few tweaks would turn it into a perfect camera for such events. It seems like a lot of people are posting "just change this one thing and baaam... perfect". This "one thing" is very different for everybody. For me, the one thing would be a joystick. First day preorder improvement.

Agreed. IBIS and dual card slots are non-factors for me, plus they seem like pretty obvious ways to maintain market segmentation with the R6. I'm guessing Canon would like to keep encouraging people that actually need the redundancy of dual cards to keep buying the R6. A joystick is definitely top of the list of upgrades I'd love to see come to the R8 line.

The main thing I want to see is a non-retro option, though I'm not going to be upgrading until at least the R8 Mk III anyway. Used a t3i for 11 years. No way I need to upgrade the R8 after only 3. I hated the straight edges on the Sony cameras I tried out in the store. Please keep modern Canon ergonomics.

Keeping size and weight and cost down are more important to me in future R8 models than any other upgrades that bring this closer to an R6. The one caveat is that I don't find it comfortable to one-hand shoot with anything other than the smallest lenses (28 pancake, 50 f/1.8). The extender lives on my R8 full-time, so I'd be in favor of canon making that the permanent size.

Tirmite · Apr 27, 2026

LSXPhotog said:
From a photo standpoint, I would still like to see Canon bring the burst mode over from the R3 to the R1, perhaps with a bit more useful implementation. But it’s kind of perplexing that the R3 can shoot at 195fps with a slower sensor and processor, while the R1 is capped at 40fps. Some of the firearms events I photograph could certainly benefit from additional frames when we are trying catch massive gunpowder plumes exiting a barrel or capturing bullets in midair. I’m actually considering renting a Sony A9III just for these events.

On the video side, Canon made some odd choices over the past few releases. Allowing users to have False Color as an exposure tool is my personal preference. It has been great to see the R1/R5II/R6II and now the R6III ship with it. However, Canon won’t let you use LOG View Assist at the same time on the older models. The R6III, C50, C400, C70, C80 each allow for view assist to be enabled and then you can still toggle false color on/off to check exposure. This is how you film! You check it quickly and turn it off!! It’s a really strange limitation and was something I was sure they would have fixed by now. The only workaround is using an external monitor with a built-in LUT. Obviously, many of us are expecting this firmware to introduce open gate to the R1/R5II because the sensor and processor speeds should, in theory, be very capable of handling. I’m not holding my breath right now. I don’t believe Canon will bring over anything major to either camera this late in their lifecycle…but fingers crossed!

**Most issue with cameras locking up and overheating seem to come from the memory cards. CFExpress Type B cards are finicky, should ideally be formatted inside each camera they are used in, can generate a lot of heat at idle, and aren’t created equal within the same brand or even the same product line. I have a couple cards that only lock up my R5II consistently, but work flawlessly in the C400 or R6III. I suppose that’s why Canon has a recommended list.

195fps??? I've never seen that option on my R3. 30fps is the max setting. Did you get yours turbocharged?

Tirmite · Apr 27, 2026

LSXPhotog said:
From a photo standpoint, I would still like to see Canon bring the burst mode over from the R3 to the R1, perhaps with a bit more useful implementation. But it’s kind of perplexing that the R3 can shoot at 195fps with a slower sensor and processor, while the R1 is capped at 40fps. Some of the firearms events I photograph could certainly benefit from additional frames when we are trying catch massive gunpowder plumes exiting a barrel or capturing bullets in midair. I’m actually considering renting a Sony A9III just for these events.

On the video side, Canon made some odd choices over the past few releases. Allowing users to have False Color as an exposure tool is my personal preference. It has been great to see the R1/R5II/R6II and now the R6III ship with it. However, Canon won’t let you use LOG View Assist at the same time on the older models. The R6III, C50, C400, C70, C80 each allow for view assist to be enabled and then you can still toggle false color on/off to check exposure. This is how you film! You check it quickly and turn it off!! It’s a really strange limitation and was something I was sure they would have fixed by now. The only workaround is using an external monitor with a built-in LUT. Obviously, many of us are expecting this firmware to introduce open gate to the R1/R5II because the sensor and processor speeds should, in theory, be very capable of handling. I’m not holding my breath right now. I don’t believe Canon will bring over anything major to either camera this late in their lifecycle…but fingers crossed!

**Most issue with cameras locking up and overheating seem to come from the memory cards. CFExpress Type B cards are finicky, should ideally be formatted inside each camera they are used in, can generate a lot of heat at idle, and aren’t created equal within the same brand or even the same product line. I have a couple cards that only lock up my R5II consistently, but work flawlessly in the C400 or R6III. I suppose that’s why Canon has a recommended list.

SnowMiku · Apr 27, 2026

Eric84 said:
I know that the body would have to be a little bit bigger, but if they are making a mkII there will have to be some improvements

I'm hoping that the R8 II can get the joystick.

neuroanatomist · Apr 27, 2026

Keithf2.8is said:
I need a more advanced APS-C body, that can take a vertical grip, and the 1.6 crop factor so my 70-200 2.8 becomes a 112-320. Purchasing a 100-300 2.8, even used, is not an option.

There’s no free lunch. 70-200/2.8 on APS-C is equivalent to 112-320mm on FF in terms of field of view, yes. Assuming you’re reach-limited at 200mm, it’s not like you’re going to move further away so DoF will be very slightly shallower on APS-C. But you’re also losing 1.3-stops of light collection, and that translates to more noise. For example, a shot at f/2.8, ISO 1600 on APS-C will have about the same noise as f/2.8, ISO 4000 on FF.

As @AlanF states, the higher pixel density means more pixels on target.

Skux · Apr 27, 2026

I don't think Canon will put much effort into this unfortunately. They have never gone all-in on a niche retro design like Nikon or Fuji, and instead just do recolours like the white versions of the 100D/M200/R50 or the gold edition of the RP. At the end of the day they still have to make a mass market product.

The most I'm expecting is a silver top cover to 'pay homage' to the AE-1 design.

AlanF · Apr 27, 2026

MkSprintz said:
The 70-200 doesn't become a 112-320, the 1.6x crop factor just provides the equivalent focal length if you had used a 112-320mm lens, if you're still too far away from your subject at 200mm it won't be anymore in focus with a 1.6x crop factor.

Focus isn't the point - it should be in focus whatever the crop factor - it's the number of pixels on the subject. A 20 Mpx APS-C sensor will give you 1.6x1.6 times the number of pixels than does a 20 Mpx FF sensor. And, that can make a perceptible difference if you are reach limited.

MkSprintz · Apr 27, 2026

Keithf2.8is said:
In a way I agree they want us to buy FF bodies, but that isn't reality for many of us or what we're looking for. A robust APS-C body is highly desired to use as a backup and for special gigs. A FF body isn't what I need, I already own 2. I need a more advanced APS-C body, that can take a vertical grip, and the 1.6 crop factor so my 70-200 2.8 becomes a 112-320. Purchasing a 100-300 2.8, even used, is not an option. I strongly believe many pros, and semi-pros, would purchase an R7 MII as soon as it was available. I say this because of all the talk and videos I've seen on how hungry the public is for this R7 MII.

The 70-200 doesn't become a 112-320, the 1.6x crop factor just provides the equivalent focal length if you had used a 112-320mm lens, if you're still too far away from your subject at 200mm it won't be anymore in focus with a 1.6x crop factor.

John D P · Apr 27, 2026

I want to be able to program a button to toggle pre shooting off and on. Otherwise, I'm good.

Keithf2.8is · Apr 27, 2026

neuroanatomist said:
With respect, I strongly believe that Canon’s market research data is more quantitative, more accurate and more relevant than ‘all the talk and videos’ you’ve seen.

Oh, by far their data is.

neuroanatomist · Apr 27, 2026

Keithf2.8is said:
I strongly believe many pros, and semi-pros, would purchase an R7 MII as soon as it was available. I say this because of all the talk and videos I've seen on how hungry the public is for this R7 MII.

With respect, I strongly believe that Canon’s market research data is more quantitative, more accurate and more relevant than ‘all the talk and videos’ you’ve seen.

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