20-50 f/4 would be a welcomed lens for my R50 V where it mutates to a 32-80 ... hopefully it has a good optical correction. IS and PZ are very welcome!

Barn Swallow diving (R5ii + RF 100-500mm).

Rceres said:

Personally, I have zero interest in any of the V-series Canon stuff. My R5 ii is good enough. But if Canon came out with an R4 high megapixel competitor to the A-7 series in an R5 form factor I would preorder today. While I can appreciate the business decision to sell video focused gear, this does seem to come at the expense of appealing to the more aspirational aspects of photography. Where is a more modern RF 50 mm 1.2 L or 85 1.2 L? Or a portrait focused RF 100 f1.4 L modeled on the wonderful RF 135 1.8 L? There is real risk that Canon loses flagship performance bragging rights to Sony. Camera buying decisions are rarely based on need, they are based on emotion. (Just my two cents for my first post on CR.)

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While I agree with the sentiment that Canon has a gap in terms of higher-resolution offerings (which I'd also pre-order), Canon doesn't seem worried about that since they've had that gap for a while now and it hasn't impacted their bottom line yet. While I definitely want such a camera from Canon, it definitely appears to be niche enough that Canon doesn't feel inclined to offer something with comparable resolution. Only Canon knows their own philosophy behind that decision, but I wouldn't be shocked if Canon chose not to focus on an image-quality and resolution-first camera when their competitive advantage over other cameras has been more linked to high-resolution burst rate, auto focus, and high-resolution video - things that may matter less to someone who wants resolution and image quality above all else. Why play in the sandbox if there's not a ton of money to be made and your inherent advantages don't matter as much to potential buyers for that product line? It may make more sense to Canon to just let the R5 ii be the offering in that space and accept that it will have less resolution and be less attractive for niche high-resolution uses rather than making something that won't move a ton of units, and may not compare favourably against the competition for that use case. Sucks for those of us who want something like that, but Canon has not been in a rush to play in that space for over a decade now when the 5Ds 5DsR were released, and I don't know why they'd change direction now.

JensR said:

I would very much like a high MP FF camera and a 100-400 f/4.5 for around 10K from CANON.

Let Sony have that dreaded videocamera thing without a viewfinder and that 20-50 powerzoom and give us the CANON verson of that high MP camera + telezoom!

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The 20-50mm could be a very good lens for photography if the price is right. The focal length is useful. Power zoom is an annoyance.

It is hard to feel envious of Sony users, every camera except the A9 III and A1 II is less ergonomically then a clay brick.

I would very much like a high MP FF camera and a 100-400 f/4.5 for around 10K from CANON.

Let Sony have that dreaded videocamera thing without a viewfinder and that 20-50 powerzoom and give us the CANON verson of that high MP camera + telezoom!

I feel so wrong envying Sony users for this opportunity but the 7th videocentric hybrid camera thingy really does absolutely nothing for me....
Plus the emotional baggage of learning that this R6V is coming instead of the promised R7 MII could make a grown man weep.....

Personally, I have zero interest in any of the V-series Canon stuff. My R5 ii is good enough. But if Canon came out with an R4 high megapixel competitor to the A-7 series in an R5 form factor I would preorder today. While I can appreciate the business decision to sell video focused gear, this does seem to come at the expense of appealing to the more aspirational aspects of photography. Where is a more modern RF 50 mm 1.2 L or 85 1.2 L? Or a portrait focused RF 100 f1.4 L modeled on the wonderful RF 135 1.8 L? There is real risk that Canon loses flagship performance bragging rights to Sony. Camera buying decisions are rarely based on need, they are based on emotion. (Just my two cents for my first post on CR.)

MkSprintz said:

Wouldn't trust any Ai when Artificial intelligence can and does aid and abet murders, and willingly deletes entire databases and actually gloats about it to the company whose database was deleted.

I cannot fathom those who rented vehicles were happy to see Ai deleted their reservations made within 3 months.

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While I agree with your general point I think that if you let a non-sandboxed AI coding agent run loose in your production environment you get what you deserve. That's not strictly the AI's fault.

Does anyone owns both the RF 28-70mm f/2.8 AND the 28-70mm f/2 L?


Also, to those who own the smaller lens, now that it's been over a year, how has been using it? Is the retractable design annoying, and do you find yourself going accidentally to "forbidden area" of the zoom ring, or is it not an issue at all?


I'm low key considering downgrading. The f/2 lens is incredible, but I don't think I take enough advantage of it - I shoot mainly at f/2.8, so I've been carrying extra glass that I rarely use.


To those who own both lenses: how do they compare in terms of colours, contrast and micro-contrast? I don't care for MTF charts (I do care, but I know these lenses are more than enough for my cameras).

And no, I'm not interested in the RF 24-70mm f/2.8.

wildwood said:

Don't trust ANY AI

There's a clue in the name... like with Artificial Flowers...

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Wouldn't trust any Ai when Artificial intelligence can and does aid and abet murders, and willingly deletes entire databases and actually gloats about it to the company whose database was deleted.

I cannot fathom those who rented vehicles were happy to see Ai deleted their reservations made within 3 months.

Chig said:

What like actually working? Crazy talk !
My old EOS 30v film camera the eye controlled focus works flawlessly moving around all 9 focus points but on my EOS R5ii I can't even see the calibration points properly let alone calibrate the damn thing !

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Funny!
Some days are "calibrating-days", some other days are, after the 20th. attempt, "I quit-days".

bloblom said:

Don't trust ChatGPT. Gemini and Claude both told me that the R7 Mark II has been released early 2026. They're extrapolating a lot of things from rumor sites. There's no way they would know if production has stopped unless this information is readily available on the internet.

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Don't trust ANY AI

There's a clue in the name... like with Artificial Flowers...

Mr. Warbucks said:

@canonrumors _ can you please check? I am from The Netherlands in Europe and the R7 is not available anymore at the official www.canon.nl site. ChatGPT indicates that production has stopped ???!!!
At least very remarkable

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Don't trust ChatGPT. Gemini and Claude both told me that the R7 Mark II has been released early 2026. They're extrapolating a lot of things from rumor sites. There's no way they would know if production has stopped unless this information is readily available on the internet.

John D P said:

I want to be able to program a button to toggle pre shooting off and on. Otherwise, I'm good.

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I feel you. As we do not have this button (yet), I just keep it active whenever I'm in electronic shutter mode. Through using back button focus, I can choose to use pre capture by holding the shutter button or just do single photos or normal bursts by just fully pressing it.

Kiton said:

Get rid of that stupid movie-stills / menu data in the screen and I will be happy, anything else is a bonus.

WTF thought that was a good idea to make a permanent feature in the display!!!

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I am not sure which one you are refering to, but I'd also like to have more granular control over what it's displayed on the EVF.

Chig said:

What like actually working? Crazy talk !
My old EOS 30v film camera the eye controlled focus works flawlessly moving around all 9 focus points but on my EOS R5ii I can't even see the calibration points properly let alone calibrate the damn thing !

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It works pretty well for me, but I wish for it to be perfect

I'd like to have a histogram and electronic level available during video recording.
Also why can't we have that nifty self-leveling sensor using the IBIS that the R7 has ?

GirlsAreBeautiful said:

I am praying for any eye focus software improvements.

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What like actually working? Crazy talk !
My old EOS 30v film camera the eye controlled focus works flawlessly moving around all 9 focus points but on my EOS R5ii I can't even see the calibration points properly let alone calibrate the damn thing !

neuroanatomist said:

I love how some people think the crop factor magically increases focal length without affecting anything else, and other people think a speed booster magically makes a lens faster without affecting anything else.

I mean, it has 0.71x right in the name. Or maybe, people are just bad at math and think 0.71 × 200 = 200.

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Yeah, the opposite of a focal length extender which everyone knows gives you more focal length but oddly some people think a focal length reducer (Canon's accurate name for the device) doesn't do what it says on the box
Just have to look at what your Canon camera tells you when you use either of these things right there in your EVF/rear screen it shows you the actual focal length

Michael Clark said:

It's when you have just enough of those good surprises with a camera like the R7 that the bad surprises are intensely frustrating as you consider what might have been.

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You nailed it. I'd call that "camera behavior influenced shooting psychology (CBISP)"... if you hear someone whistling severe swears hidden in a bush, you know what happened

Oh Lord, won't you buy me an R7 twoohoo (imagine Janis Joplin's whiskey & cigarettes hardened voice...).

Dear Canon, here is my wish list for AF improvements that should come with the Mark II for birders/wildlife shooters:

- Generally: if the AF system detects a spot roughly in bird shape against a blue background, the spot is most likely the object to focus on.

- In addition to these sky background issues, please, train the AI subject recognition (animals) with enough birds-in-flight (BiF) images shot against different skies - from partly cloudy to completely overcast, and with blue skies in different angles relatively to the sun.

- For shooting with really long supertele setups (600+ mm), please implement a sort of "AF focusing start always with infinity" option (or call it "reverse focus search function"). In typical settings when I shoot BiF, and the R7 doesn't get enough contrast (you already can recognize the bird as a washed-out spot in the EVF), the bloody AF system retires to the most narrow focusing distance and then starts to try to re-focus. Even switched my tele lens to 16m minimum distance, I often lose track completely, because any visual information in the EVF is then gone. If the AF would always start at infinity, in such settings I still could see a soft spot in the EVF I can follow until the AF finally succeeds in finding the correct focus distance and can follow the bird. This "AF always resides to narrowest distance" behavior is really annoying! I lost many potentially interesting shots with my R7 because this happened. Another solution would be to implement an option in which you can set a minimum distance digitally (and an option to program this on a camera button), so I could e.g. select 20 or 30m, what also would help much (but I guess this only would work with RF lenses, not with e.g. my EF 600mm f/4.0 III which I currently do not feel forced to upgrade).

candyman said:

Canon EOS R7 is still listed on Canon Europe. And being sold in shops in the Netherlands

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You are right, just checked it again, possibly temporarily . I only checked canon.nl, where it (now?) indeed shows.
Rest assured - I did triple checked before I posted. Still something funny happening….

Mr. Warbucks said:

@canonrumors _ can you please check? I am from The Netherlands in Europe and the R7 is not available anymore at the official www.canon.nl site. ChatGPT indicates that production has stopped ???!!!
At least very remarkable

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Canon EOS R7 is still listed on Canon Europe. And being sold in shops in the Netherlands