This is by now the best review I found, because it goes at 100% crops in both centre and corners (no other review that I found went that deep); the images speaks for themselves about sharpness and chromatic aberrations

Michael Clark said:

You say this is the year 2025? Good Lord, I'm OLD! Years are supposed to start with 19xx.

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It sucks. Life passes far too quickly.

rombe3jr said:

Sounds like a nice upgrade from the R8! How many batteries do you go through in the R8 for a typical wedding?

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Full transparency: I don't usually do weddings as there are an absolute ton of wedding-focused photographers in my area and, honestly, they are really good at what they do. But, if I were to shoot a wedding with just the R8, knowing the battery life I get, I'd probably want at least 4 batteries. I currently only have 3 and my first one only holds about 30% capacity... not sure what happened to it as I am pretty careful about my electronics, but it's barely worth charging up these days.

As acorn season kicked off in September, a CA Ground Squirrel had begun pillaging a Black Oak tree and in the process was breaking off small laden branches. This Merriam's Chipmunk was making the most of it.

Eloniel said:

I think the 3 others lenses will be announced later in November, hopefully there will be a f2.0 zoom.

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Yes, yes, please! I almost bought the 28-70mm F2 for 2k recently because I am so tempted. I love the images of this lens BUT I can't manage its weight and size all the time. Hopefully, a much lighter zoom such as the two Sonys are in the pipeline. Of course, then I´d still have to wait a couple of years for a decent price. But knowing it exist, would make me patient

Canon Rumors said:

Yeah, GPS is cool. I like the map in lightroom... fun to poke around for some memories.

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Hello!
I am a naturalist, and part of my job involves conducting inventories and monitoring nature. This often requires detailed photographic documentation (a smartphone is not sufficient) of habitats and/or plant and animal species. In the days of DSLRs (7DII, then 5DIV), built-in GPS was essential. Unfortunately, in the days of the R series (and earlier M series), this is no longer the case. The connection to a smartphone is unstable and not always reliable. I do have a Canon GPS receiver, but I don't attach it to my cameras (currently R6II and R8) because it significantly affects their portability. Ultimately, I use it in logger mode and do the geotagging from my computer.
I was quietly hoping for built-in GPS in cameras that are advertised as being designed for sports and wildlife photography.
Of course, there is the R1. But... there are a lot of buts :
- too big for me (I don't have the biggest hands)
- too heavy and not very handy for many hours of exploring the terrain
- I usually use two cameras (R6 with a telephoto lens, R8 with a macro or 24-70).
Well, let's enjoy what we have.

PS. As for the R6III - its specs look pretty good at first glance. I was hoping for a larger EVF and I feel a little disappointed here. And I'm curious to see how the improved autofocus will perform in comparison to, for example, the R5II, in field conditions. (Will the lack of an accelerator be significant?).

Snapster said:

If you want the vintage 1.2 look, you can already buy a used EF 50mm 1.2 L for a similar price. You get better build quality, weather sealing and USM on top. In that sense, this new lens doesn't really add much to the table. I would rather get the EF lens, personally.

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As far as I know, the USM on the EF 1.2 isn't exactly known for being a great implementation...

WarrenJ said:

Seems like the pre-capture has been fixed and AF is a bit better. Sensor performance is probably going to be argued about on forums like these for awhile (seems a bit noisier than the R6m2, but increase resolution, etc).

I've been shooting with an R8 for the last two years and love it, but pre-capture, IBIS, and option to use CF cards for extra speed would all be nice upgrades. For $1000 more, I could get an R5, but I don't see the value for my use cases. R1 is out of my price range and is more camera than I can use; I don't see any logical reason to buy an R3 (even used ones are ~$3500) given its age.

So, yea, I think I might go ahead and just pre-order this one. The R8 can drop back to being a secondary camera: I've frequently wished that I had two cameras to shoot with at events instead of swapping lenses.

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Sounds like a nice upgrade from the R8! How many batteries do you go through in the R8 for a typical wedding?

AlanF said:

Worse still in the UK, as we say over here "hard cheddar". Exchange rate equivalent is ~€3200, the usual mark up of about 10% by Canon EU. So, unless we are desperate wait until the grey market reliable sellers have it, usually 20-30% below UK list price.

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This is what I also do in France, I've learned wait for grey market offers.
I paid a high price for my first R5 II, convinced that I'd have to wait half a year to get it, and jumped on a so-called cancelled order. 2 weeks later, I could have bought it for far less from a grey market seller.

50 Euros mo

P-visie said:

That is the price at 3 large retailers. At canon.nl you pay 2949,99€, so 99 cents more. What tax is that?

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P-visie said:

That is the price at 3 large retailers. At canon.nl you pay 2949,99€, so 99 cents more. What tax is that?

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99 cents!

Canon Rumors said:

Magnets hold the ibis in place, but they need a bit of power. Shake the camera, and then remove the battery and shake it

It annoyed me with the R5, come back to it a week later and it was depleted. Then I found out why.

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I will try it!

EDIT: the bluetooth module also remains active I think, so these cameras definitely are only in standby mode while off with a battery inside. I personally didn't have any problem with battery drain, while the Speedlite EL-5 munches batteries night and day even after the firmware update.

Traveler said:

I'm afraid they didn't do any kind of this improvement. The R5ii has 15× but I think it's because of the resolution.

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They did 30x in the Canon RA.

Canon Rumors said:

Here's the difference between the EOS 5D Mark IV and the EOS R6 Mark II. It is down to battery drain. If you leave the 5D turned on, there's nothing else going on in the camera other than the top LCD.

On the R6, the IBIS module drains power when the camera is turned off. The magnets need that power to hold the unit in place. If you want your batteries ready to rock after a week away from the camera, take it out and don't shake the camera. I personally don't like leaving batteries on chargers or a USB cable plugged in for charging for a long period of time.

Consider that a mirrorless camera sensor is always on when the camera is on. It isn't on a DSLR.

Canon chose to keep the LP-E6 form factor (For better or worse), but now it has the sensor draining the battery at all times. The EVF is also draining battery, which a DSLR obviously didn't have. The trade-off is, they killed the GPS to reduce drain to keep the battery form-factor and not really increasing capacity. Think about bluetooth, wi-fi and all that.

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Doesn't IBIS just shut off and let the sensor rattle inside the camera? I'm sure my Olympus OMD EM5 II rattled, I haven't noticed it with the R6 II but read many comments on the web about sensor rattling inside while off. Do Canon EOS R cameras really keep the coils powered to fix the sensor in position?

Canon Rumors said:

On the R6, the IBIS module drains power when the camera is turned off. The magnets need that power to hold the unit in place.

A mirrorless camera sensor is always on when the camera is on. It isn't on a DSLR.

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On the R6, the IBIS module drains power when the camera is turned off. The magnets need that power to hold the unit in place. If you want your batteries ready to rock after a week away from the camera, take it out and don't shake the camera. I personally don't like leaving batteries on chargers or a USB cable plugged in for charging for a long period of time.

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Huh, this explains my observations on both my mirrorless Canons. Interesting, and annoying.

If I leave the camera on and let it sleep, it doesn’t seem to drain the batteries as much.

Del Paso said:

What about other news (24-70 II, 28-70 II, 14 TSE)?

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I think the 3 others lenses will be announced later in November, hopefully there will be a f2.0 zoom along the rumored telephoto lens.

Seems like the pre-capture has been fixed and AF is a bit better. Sensor performance is probably going to be argued about on forums like these for awhile (seems a bit noisier than the R6m2, but increase resolution, etc).

I've been shooting with an R8 for the last two years and love it, but pre-capture, IBIS, and option to use CF cards for extra speed would all be nice upgrades. For $1000 more, I could get an R5, but I don't see the value for my use cases. R1 is out of my price range and is more camera than I can use; I don't see any logical reason to buy an R3 (even used ones are ~$3500) given its age.

So, yea, I think I might go ahead and just pre-order this one. The R8 can drop back to being a secondary camera: I've frequently wished that I had two cameras to shoot with at events instead of swapping lenses.

McMacmac said:

Seriously: Why? I might be ignorant, but I have never needed to know where exactly a pic was taken. I usually know when I look at it. But maybe I am missing the point of GPS data in my files.

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When you're hiking on trails or otherwise doing landscape photography, it can be useful to know where a photo was taken for future reference.

DhlcadR6 said:

Now just need further confirmation if the 40fps electronic shutter is 14bit RAW. All the Sony fanboys I know IRL keep nagging me about this. I need facts to shut them up

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I highly doubt it

EDIT: I just checked Canon Europe's specs for R6 II and III and you might actually be right, as there is no additional explainer on the Mark III regarding lower bit depth with electronic shutter. This would be really impressive, as it would outpace the semi-stacked Nikon Z6III sensor with a significant MP increase.

Under "Still image type":
Mark II RAW: RAW, C-RAW 14 bit (14-bit with Mechanical shutter and Electronic 1st Curtain, 12-bit A/D conversion with Electronic shutter, Canon original RAW 3rd edition)
Mark III RAW 14 bit: RAW and C-RAW (Canon original RAW 3rd edition) and Dual Pixel RAW

Maximilian said:

"Global Positioning (GPS, GLONASS, etc.) : GPS*Via Connected Smartphone"

Isn't that good enough?

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No. It means you need to be running Canon's app on your phone to talk to your phone. Makes the setup more complicated

Michael Clark said:

Roger Cicala called the EOS R (not the RP) a mirrorless 6D Mark II.

Sure, the R had the 5D Mark IV sensor. But does the 1D X Mark III sensor in the R6 make it the successor to the 1D X series?

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I feel like I have a stalker now
You could have replied to me once, it would have been enough. And I know I know I am guilty of the same now
I understand your point of view but I do not agree with it, simple as that.
And as I have written elsewhere, I do not use the sensor's model to classify cameras, but I look at sensor size and at camera's relative position in Canon lineup at the time the camera is current. So to reiterate, for me the 6D (e.g.) was the entry point for FF at the time of its introduction

Richard CR said:

Today, Canon has released the Canon EOS R6 Mark III that we have been breathlessly waiting for. The upgrades from its predecessors are quite important if you are either a stills photographer or a videographer. The R6 Mark III features a new 32.5-megapixel full-frame CMOS DPAF AF II sensor, a modest but important increase from […]

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Hooray! And what's the next camera?

McMacmac said:

For Milky Way photography a 10x Magnified Image Display would be disappointing. Hope they bumped that to at least 15x.

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I'm afraid they didn't do any kind of this improvement. The R5ii has 15× but I think it's because of the resolution.

Michael Clark said:

People used to talk about how Canon "abandoned" EF-S in the early 2010s because they didn't release any significant new EF-S lenses past the late 2000s. They said the same thing about the EOS M mount. Canon released a handful of lenses that were the lenses an EOS M buyer was likely to purchase.

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But they did eventually abandon M and then EF(-S). In the same fashion there were a lot of people in denial about that fact even after Canon stopped releasing anything for those systems. Same with Sony users when Sony stopped making A cameras or 4/3 users when Olympus moved to micro4/3

Michael Clark said:

But fan boys were falling off cliffs complaining there was not an equivalent EF-S or EF-M lens for every FF EF lens in the catalog. That's never how Canon has done it. If you want a full catalog of dedicated crop lenses go to Micro Four-Thirds or Fuji APS-C. Canon ain't ever going there.

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Well that wasn't me. I did not said anything about wanting a full lens system for crop sensor. FF is the smaller sensor I use (not counting drones of course): I prefer medium format and I am not willing to go smaller than FF. Crop sensors can disappear for what I am concerned and I would not be fazed one bit.

But I am not at all against people who want crop cameras (there are plenty of legitimate reasons for that) and I am happy that they now have a more fleshed out lens system for RF-S with Sigma's additions

DhlcadR6 said:

Now just need further confirmation if the 40fps electronic shutter is 14bit RAW. All the Sony fanboys I know IRL keep nagging me about this. I need facts to shut them up

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You can ask them to show you pictures where it really matters and it's worth posting.

justaCanonuser said:

I still use my EF 50mm f/1.2 quite frequently for stills, but for video with external mike the RF 45mm f/1.2 STM would be a nicely silent upgrade. Wide open, I would not expect this lens to be tack sharp in the corners, but hopefully it performs optically a tad better than the old EF 50mm f/1.4 USM, that was quite soft wide open.

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Who needs sharp corners at F1.2? Stop with the pixel creeping! We need lenses that produce magic, not flat boring shots with sharp corners. This is a welcome addition that I would buy any day of the week instead of the overpriced fat RF 50mm F1.2.