mangobutter said:

I don't want it tack sharp in the corners. this is (hopefully) going to be a character lens.

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That's exactly the reason why I did not yet upgrade my EF 85mm f/1.2, I love its non-perfect slightly vintage character very much (don't use it in settings with a lot of contrast!). But coming from that lens I first was disappointed about the EF 50mm f/1.2 that I got later, because that one doesn't deliver that special, visually "punchy" look wide open with which I fell in love with the 85mm. The tele lens offers wide open a great combination of a visually (not lab wise, in the lab this lens is a mediocre performer) very sharp rendering in the center and a gorgeously soft fall-off into a creamy bokeh in the background, typically in the edges when one shoots portraits. The EF 50mm isn't visually that "crisp" wide open, but that comes basically with the fact that it isn't a tele design lens, and features a relatively simple design (Gauss-like, no floating elements). The advantage of that design is that the 50mm is so beautifully compact for such a superfast lens, and that's the reason why I still like to use it. Plus, its color rendering is superb and the bokeh great. A little bit stopped down, you soon hit a sweet spot with a sufficiently sharp center.

Considering how small and compact the R8 is, I would say that it is the most versatile compact camera. It's full size 35mm sensor and amazing image quality...I'd give the R8 my vote.

SvO2 said:

Read the description more carefully

The previous R6 bodies were described as “Magnesium Alloy chassis, outer panels are polycarbonate resin with glass fiber.” The R6 III has a “Magnesium alloy body and chassis with some components consisting of polycarbonate with glass fiber.” — same description used for the 5 series cameras.

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I don't need to read, I have the camera at arms reach, I can touch it. The original R6 features metal on top, metal at the bottom, metal battery door, metal at the rear, metallic rear LCD structure, plastic SD memory card door and, I THINK a plastic cover bellow the R6 logo, near the connectors (I mean the side cover, where the R5 has rubber and the R6 doesn't).

Even the difference in the way the materials are worn after 4.5 years of usage is clearly visible.

Just because someone translated the text differently, it doesn't mean the product isn't the same.

They may have changed the memory cards door, since the R6 III needs it bigger, but the left cover is most likely still plastic, as it still doesn't have rubber, like the R5s.

P-visie said:

Price in the Netherlands is 2949€ (incl. VAT).

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Additional gouda tax...

Any confirmation if this has the dual base iso from the C50?

I'm waiting for actual hands on reviews but on first thought, I don't like the mixed cards.
Never owned CFE cards and SD cards are more than enough for me. I was plenty satisfied with dual SD but I would get used to replace the SD card in place of letting the camera fill the second one when the first comes full

m4ndr4ke said:

It’s a surprise the Mark III being built the same way as the two previous generations?
The R6s have been using magnesium bodies since their first model.

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Read the description more carefully

The previous R6 bodies were described as “Magnesium Alloy chassis, outer panels are polycarbonate resin with glass fiber.” The R6 III has a “Magnesium alloy body and chassis with some components consisting of polycarbonate with glass fiber.” — same description used for the 5 series cameras.

So, the patent is not that 48.5mm f/1.2, after all. This lens shows a few less elements.

PinholeR5 said:

Gordon Laing first-looks review for the RF 45mm

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This is $800 NZD here, which is cheaper than used sales of the EF 50mm f/1.2 L. Crazy in the best way.

m4ndr4ke said:

But that could be included anyway, they just needed to make the lenses long enough to cover the movement, and we’d all be happy


We have basic internal focus like the RF 50mm f/1.2, delimited by the filter

As expected, the lens is being shown mostly with the R8, so I wouldn’t expect a lot of quality for you, R5 users.

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Cheers and amen to internal focus!

It's partially a surprise with the price, but also a let down as it is not using the patent that was previously published. From gordon's video that is just posted, it is fake internal focusing with all groups moving inside the barrel, and not a true internal focusing design like the patent. Also the CA and corner image quality is pretty bad. The MTF is also rather "vintage" for lack of a better word. They might be making some changes but it's canon after all.

Pre-ordered! The mtf is similar to the EF 50 1.2L and I liked that lens! (Only sold it as I had to fund half off deal on my RF 85mm 1.2) This will be the lightest AF 1.2 lens on the market, no brainer for every day carry use.

Gordon Laing first-looks review for the RF 45mm

I'm Looking forward to seeing the sensor readout speed compared to the R6 II. The original 6D I have is an amateur full frame body but now the 6 series has truly evolved to a professional body. I wonder if the R6 III will effect R5 II sales going forward?

Price in the Netherlands is 2949€ (incl. VAT).

scyrene said:

Whereas I wouldn't have got the 35 (or maybe even the 16) if they didn't allow reasonably close focus.

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But that could be included anyway, they just needed to make the lenses long enough to cover the movement, and we’d all be happy

mxwphoto said:

I think you are right in that the hood won't move. Just double checked my rf 100-400 and Canon marks it differently for hood alignment if it moves with barrel (unlike the red dot on outer barrel). The EF and RF L both have internal focusing ala filter seal so it could very likely be so for this one.

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We have basic internal focus like the RF 50mm f/1.2, delimited by the filter

As expected, the lens is being shown mostly with the R8, so I wouldn’t expect a lot of quality for you, R5 users.

This is ridiculous, You can't even log in into B &H website, I've been trying for twenty minutes... Common B&H you don't make enough money o have decent servers??? Pathetic.

Ah, the 45mm link appeared!

Pre-order link is live on B&H for the R6 III, but I can't find the RF 45mm F1.2...

Oumenos said:

6D First DSLR including a GPS and then 5DmkIV. After R5 family, R6 serie always no GPS on board…

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Yeah, I am really frustrated about that as well...

SvO2 said:

Looks like they went with the magnesium body on this - thats a welcome surprise.

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It’s a surprise the Mark III being built the same way as the two previous generations?
The R6s have been using magnesium bodies since their first model.

chrysoberyl said:

Yes, why not get a new R5 for the same price?

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Once the new R6 Mark III hits the market, the R5 will disappear from authorized Canon dealer's shelves (except in the "used' department).