Is a ‘Holy Trinity’ of f/2.8 STM Zoom Lenses on the Horizon?

The Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 is the best selling full frame mirrorless zoom lens of all time. The RF 28-70 f/2.8 may also prove to be Canon's best selling full frame zoom. So a Canon RF 70-180 f/2.8 STM lens makes a lot of sense. It would complete the "trinity" and be a powerful way to attract plus retain customers to Canon. The Sony/Nikon mount version of the 70-180 f/2.8 currently cost $1,000/$1,250 USD respectively. If Canon could come in around $1,300 or $1,400 USD then it should be close enough to get the job done for Canon.
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Is a ‘Holy Trinity’ of f/2.8 STM Zoom Lenses on the Horizon?

Out of curiosity: were there any great deals on canon refurbished gear on Black Friday besides the 200-800mm? I checked several times and didn't see any. Did I just miss it or was nothing special going on?
There were some interesting deals, though I found them a bit less attractive than previous years. Still I did get a couple of items.

This year Canon had the "Black Friday" deals earlier. On Wednesday/Thursday. Then on the actual Black Friday, there were no new Canon refurb deals. I think that is actually a smart way for them to do it so the retailers can have their Black Friday specials for the new gear and not compete with the Canon Refurb store. I'm sure they will have more deals, especially after the Black Friday returns start kicking in.
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Nice! I have no idea where you are taking these photos but combination of Cassin's Kingbird and Casaurina sp. (Australian Iron wood or Australian Pine - that is not Conifer at all...) is telling me Southern California (probably coastal)?
Well spotted ISv! SoCal is correct (inland coastal). The Casaurina sp. (locally called a Sheoak) is in my neighbor's yard. The woodpeckers and nuthatches like working the trunk and branches for insects. Flycatchers and hummers like the snags for looking for flying insects.
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Is a ‘Holy Trinity’ of f/2.8 STM Zoom Lenses on the Horizon?

Out of curiosity: were there any great deals on canon refurbished gear on Black Friday besides the 200-800mm? I checked several times and didn't see any. Did I just miss it or was nothing special going on?
There have been a bunch of lenses and bodies. They usually sell out within minutes (or faster). Best thing if you’re interested in something is to set an alert on CPW, and if you get a ping act immediately.
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Laowa 10mm f/2.8 zero-D + Laowa 15mm f/2 zero-D OR Canon RF 10-20mm f/4 L IS STM?

That's impressive! Something else to mention is the Laowa lenses aren't available with autofocus (I think no lens data is sent to the camera as well?). Unless mekos really needs that wider aperture for low light, can you think of anything reasonable criticisim against the 10-20?
Not really, it's a terrific lens. That said, you have to shoot this level (unless you want a fisheye-type effect).
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Laowa 10mm f/2.8 zero-D + Laowa 15mm f/2 zero-D OR Canon RF 10-20mm f/4 L IS STM?

You have to keep in mind that these Laowa lenses for RF mount do not have any contacts to the camera so you won't even get EXIF data for focal length and aperture. Before I bought my Laowa macro lens I thought that it wouldn't matter to me but in the end it did.
If you do not need it for low light/astro personally I would recommend the Canon lens. Then you have autofocus as well.
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Laowa 10mm f/2.8 zero-D + Laowa 15mm f/2 zero-D OR Canon RF 10-20mm f/4 L IS STM?

Not to mention that the 5-6 stops of image stabilization means you can hand-hold this baby for almost anything. I've used it hand-held for 1/2 second waterfall exposures.
That's impressive! Something else to mention is the Laowa lenses aren't available with autofocus (I think no lens data is sent to the camera as well?). Unless mekos really needs that wider aperture for low light, can you think of anything reasonable criticisim against the 10-20?
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What’s Next from Canon?

So frustrating!! November 16 & 26 pass without announcing the 300-600 f4-5.6. This is the upgrade to my 100-500mm. I want this lens. Canon has been ignoring the high end long glass community for awhile now. Canon should give us an idea what's going on!!!!
a canon guy told me, we have to wait until next summer! :(
but the next vcm will be a 14mm ;)
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LOL The second first one. :ROFLMAO:

The Sparrow :)
WOW!!! That's a big upset: House Sparrow over a Merganser:ROFLMAO:!
That Sparrow landed at the water just behind my back (I was sitting on a bench). As sitting I had to take the camera from the tripod turn halfway back and shoot handheld - otherwise the Sparrow could be gone. Pretty awkward position and only 2/3 of the shots were acceptable:oops:!
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Anyone get R6 Mark3 in USA

Oh, I thought you were saying the old style batteries wouldn't fully power and run your new camera. I must have misinterpreted that to mean the battery remaining percentage doesn't read out. You just get bars.

I remember every Canon I've had just showing bars. I look now and then. If it's low, I swap batteries. Easy. And I ain't no engineer either. I totally missed the part where you were talking about the battery meter. You are right. That's a choice. A choice Canon didn't make to your liking. So, crippled.

Back when I shot fashion shows, I'd get 3,000 out of two batteries on. 5D Mark III. Never worried how Canons meter displayed. Sure af doesn't cripple a camera.
blah blah.....what ever! you clearly do not understand the long history of the term "cripple hammer".

I just dumped my 4th body, the spare R5 body, and it had 350,000 clicks on it. The spare!

Battery indications mean something to some of us.

bye!
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I’m still getting used to just a completely different experience than I’m used to. There are buttons everywhere! lol. I have 2 different back focusing setup to my liking. My biggest problem right now is trying to understand all the af settings. Right now my one back focusing setup is a whole screen for eye detection if in a hurry. The other back focusing setup is with the expanded area. I really don’t want to use single point anymore. I feel like in 2025 I shouldn’t have to. I’m just trying to get used to the camera actually sticking and me not having to refocus like I used to. It’s a me thing. Just a totally different learning curve going on.

I also think I’m buying the rf70-200 2.8 tonight. I have been going back and forth. I’m just going to do it and figure it out. Cause there is never going to be a good time in my life over the next 6 years and I really want it for my kids while they are playing sports not after they are done and I don’t need it as much. I’m just going to do it. Ok I said it. Just do it.

It’s like ripping a bandaide off.

The camera is pretty sweet though coming from 15 plus year old tech.
Not sure what the cost dif is these days between the first version and the second version these days, but internal zooming ver 2 is so much better to use, if you can, grab that one! It is an amazing lens.
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I went out looking for eagles. I saw 5 or 6 but no good shots so I settled on these. Colors are a bit strange becauseView attachment 226968View attachment 226969 there was a red boathouse reflecting in the water.
Colors are OK - even for the female (Hooded Merganser). Great pose for the male! I never got them with the "hood" displayed!

DSC_8417_DxO.jpgLophodytes cucullatus - Hooded Merganser 5 Female.jpg
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