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Marximusprime · Nov 5, 2025

$469 for the 45? Sold.

AlanF · Nov 5, 2025

I'm not scared of iso 32,000 says this Blackheaded Gull (R5ii RF 200-800mm 1/3200s iso 32000, DxO PL6).

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fox40phil · Nov 5, 2025

NO new tilting screen?!?! like the Sonys??!!

Would be better for run and gun...if the diplay don't come out (to the side)

JDub · Nov 5, 2025

DhlcadR6 said:
I'm more interested in the 45mm f1.2 than R6iii, since it's pretty much confirmed there's no stacked CMOS with R6iii.

I don't fully understand this line of thinking that's being perpetuated about non-stacked sensors.

If the readout speed is sufficient, then who cares if it's stacked or not. I've owned the R6, R6ii, and R5. The R6ii has an amazing sensor that excels at low light, and has minimal rolling shutter in real world use. It's also got exception AF already, better than the R5 and does it at 40fps.

Canon would never kill off sales of the R5ii by releasing a 32mp baby brother that does everything else the same.

Click · Nov 5, 2025

The bird is really sharp. Nicely done, Alan.

candyman · Nov 5, 2025

padam said:
I give it 0% chance, there is even less space on a smaller, cheaper body.

There is a tilting rear LCD on smaller bodies like M6 II. The R8 is bigger than that. There will be space for tilting and angle

Bob Howland · Nov 5, 2025

Toni said:
Canon has left the APS-C RF market to other manufacturers because it's clearly not in their interest.
But that makes it clear that if those other manufacturers aren't releasing full-frame RF lenses, it's because Canon is blocking them.

I switched from a Canon APS-C DSLR to a Canon full-frame mirrorless camera. If I had known that today the RF full-frame mount would still be blocked for other manufacturers, I would have switched to another brand. It's that simple.
In fact, if it weren't for the expense I've made on the Canon equipment, I would switch brands right now. Because locking the R mount seems like a rip-off to me.

I now use my R7 and R50V more than my R6-2, mostly because I bought six Sigma APS-C zooms and primes. My EF lenses are mostly 10-25 years old and not well suited for video work. That's why I'm much more interested in what the R7-2 will be than in what the R6-3 will be.

Walrus · Nov 5, 2025

mangobutter said:
45 1.2 is perfect as is. do not want weather sealing. used non-ws lenses in the rain many times and never had issue. i haven't been excited about an RF lens in a while. i wish for an EF 40 2.8 STM in RF mount (yes i know flange distance is diff) but if they could somehow repackage that lens.. those optics are stellar in that lens. i absolutely love it. that being said, i'm hoping this new RF 45 is closer to the 40mm FOV side vs the 50 side. if it hovered around 43mm (whatever AOV that is) i'd be happy.

I remember the patents shown here being around 48mm, so not on the wide side, this should be a 50mm in disguise; it's called 45 just not to go head to head with the 50 L and the 50 VCM

mangobutter · Nov 5, 2025

My guess for this 45 1.2 IQ, it'll be "quite good" in the center wide open with corners showing softness, picking up @ F2 in the corners and by F4, just about perfect. i'd be happy with this as i plan on using this as a isolationist/character/rendering lens. I hope! i don't want too many corrections making the bokeh busy jittery etc.

Del Paso · Nov 5, 2025

McMacmac said:
Thank you for your insights. But I will keep the R for landscapes, astro and as a backup. And I know the frustration of trying to shoot moving animals with it. I'll upgrade the lens first and see what 2026 will bring to the table...

A fine decision!

mangobutter · Nov 5, 2025

45 1.2 is perfect as is. do not want weather sealing. used non-ws lenses in the rain many times and never had issue. i haven't been excited about an RF lens in a while. i wish for an EF 40 2.8 STM in RF mount (yes i know flange distance is diff) but if they could somehow repackage that lens.. those optics are stellar in that lens. i absolutely love it. that being said, i'm hoping this new RF 45 is closer to the 40mm FOV side vs the 50 side. if it hovered around 43mm (whatever AOV that is) i'd be happy.

riker · Nov 5, 2025

Great, now a quality non-L 28/1.8 or 1.4 pls.

Del Paso · Nov 5, 2025

Still waiting for some interesting lenses and a high(er) MP camera.
I hope there's more to come...in a few hours.

blackcoffee17 · Nov 5, 2025

Dima135 said:
No weather sealing for 45 1.2 ?

What do you expect for a $400 Canon lens?

Dima135 · Nov 5, 2025

No weather sealing for 45 1.2 ?

mangobutter · Nov 5, 2025

justaCanonuser said:
I still use my EF 50mm f/1.2 quite frequently for stills, but for video with external mike the RF 45mm f/1.2 STM would be a nicely silent upgrade. Wide open, I would not expect this lens to be tack sharp in the corners, but hopefully it performs optically a tad better than the old EF 50mm f/1.4 USM, that was quite soft wide open.

I don't want it tack sharp in the corners. this is (hopefully) going to be a character lens. i want field curvature, i want smearing, i want isolation (wide open and at large apertures) This is for placing subjects in the general central area and not the corners. that's what i want. we've had enough of the clinical robot g master era where everything is perfectly sharp everywhere. time to get back to the roots of art.

Del Paso · Nov 5, 2025

Michael Clark said:
Did your 6D Mark II ever leak? (Though, again, I made the exception for build quality which includes weather resistance. And NO camera which can not be submerged in water is weather sealed. Too many talk about how "this camera has weather sealing and that camera does not have weather sealing." Unless it's an open truss telescope, all lenses have weather resistance to one degree or another, and all camera's with light boxes also have environmental barriers between the inside of the camera and the outside of the camera.)

I'm not the one that claims the R6 was a love letter. That was another user. Maybe include that in a reply to that user's comment?

In many cases the 6-Series cameras have already replaced 5-Series cameras for certain photographers. Many 5D Mark II and 5D Mark III users decided they didn't need 30+ MP and went with the 6D Mark II instead. Many more 5-Series DSLR shooters went with the R6 when the price of the R5 came in over $4K + tax in the U.S.

And yet, there are cameras and lenses which are, for instance IP 53 certified, like OMs or Leica's IP 54.
Still better than relying on hollow "weather resistant" promises.
No, not even they should be submerged, but, at least, they meet an official norm unlike all Canons, Sonies, Fujis etc...

roby17269 · Nov 5, 2025

Richard CR said:
I was a little tempted to put the R8 in there as well, as at least with the R6 Mark II and now III it really does feel like the lineup has shifted upscale. But I think the RP and also the R8 if anyone would be the spiritual successor of the entry-level rebels in EF-S land, while the R6 would be like the "super rebel" that sat about (think 77D, etc) - i still think there's a seperation there.

My understanding was that Canon has always had a clear split FF v Crop (EF v EF-S and RF v RF-S)
I do agree that the R6 has moved upscale and I think that there have been 2 splits: 5D -> R6 and R5 and 1D X -> R3 and R1 (at least on paper for the latter: who knows if the R3 will continue? and moreover to me the R1 feels like an upgrade of the R3 rather than a different class)... but they stay in FF land.
If the 6D was the gateway drug for FF, now that role is held by the RP / R8

Richard CR said:
Once the R6 Mark III gets here in the next couple of days, the R6 III will be in there, and I'll certainly think of adding the R8 as well, and talking more about if this is a fork in thinking from Canon - like the XXD series went on after the 50D when the line split to the 60D and the 7D.

Nothing is simple really

what about the 5Ds? One could argue that we went 6D -> R8, 5D -> R6, 5Ds -> R5 and 1D X -> R1 (ignoring one-offs like R, RP and maybe R3)

Richard CR said:
I'll certainly give it some thought! Thanks!

You're welcome!

ctk · Nov 5, 2025

rombe3jr said:
Hard to believe that was about 8 years ago now. And Sony continued their hit streak with several more great cameras in this middle tier ($2k-$4k USD) until about 2022. I think the A7RV was probably the last time Sony responded with a spec "win" over Canon in the segment. Something changed around 2022 and Sony focused on the high end A1 II and A9 III cameras while letting the mid tier languish. Canon has methodically improved each of these models and I would argue, beat Sony with the R5C, R5 II, R6 II, C50, and tonight they will be announcing the R6 III. It is safe to say that Canon is sitting comfortably on top in 2025.

Body wise yes Canon is def on top, and dont forget the OG R5/R6, which while not perfect represent insane value Sony can't match. I cant think of a better $3K body than the R5. RF lens system is serviceable but def a big step behind IMO.

mangobutter · Nov 5, 2025

the lens is beautiful. instant buy

blackcoffee17 · Nov 5, 2025

GMCPhotographics said:
If they could make a EF 85mm f1.2 and a EF 50mm f1.0....then I think the flange was fine.

You can't make a modern mirrorless with EF flange. Not because of the lenses, but it would have looked like the Pentax K-01 Frankenstein camera. Ugly and huge.

AlanF · Nov 5, 2025

Pied Wagtail (White Wagtail). R5ii + RF 200-800mm.

m4ndr4ke · Nov 5, 2025

Michael Clark said:
I'm not the one that claims the R6 was a love letter. That was another user. Maybe include that in a reply to that user's comment?

He is tagged in the same post, in case you missed it, so he got the notification as well, but you were the one referring to build quality.

In the meantime, an article that refers to that has been released: