The Follow-up to the RF 24-70 F2.8L IS USM Could See More of the World

I find 24mm fine for walk around work. 70mm is ok, but the 105mm is a better top end. That said the 23-105 f2.8 is too heavy for my liking. I found the 24-105 f4 to fail to focus correctly in low light on the R5 Mark II, so I stuck with the 24-70 f2.8. Perhaps that was an early focus issue with the mark II, which has been fixed? Anyone having problems with that combo (R5 II, 24-105 f4 at night time with lit buildings or bridges)

24mm seems plenty wide enough, unless you go indoors, when the 10-20mm is king.

i'm a landscape shooter. many of my landscapes with 24-70 are at 24mm. that tells me 20mm would be very useful
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The Follow-up to the RF 24-70 F2.8L IS USM Could See More of the World

20-70mm would certainly be quite useful. I'm sure Canon will have to do something to get people to buy new lens. The existing ones are so good. Maybe they will eventually get around to a 16-600mm 2.8 that's less than 1KG in weight
"I'm sure Canon will have to do something to get people to buy new lens."

lower the price, weight, size (VCM)
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Canon Says it’s up to Sigma to Make Full-Frame RF Lenses

Well, with that barrel diameter on the AI generated camera+lens image there should be no problem for Canon, as the barrel seems rather to small to fit the RF mount ....!!
I am not a super fan of AI generated images for that sort of things.

Edit: On second inspection it may not even be AI generated, but just a composite where lens and camera are not to scale??
Are you talking about the big green thing in post #50?
No, @AcaPixus was referring to the anorexic lens mount on the image in the main site post for this topic. Here’s that image compared to the real thing…

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Canon Says it’s up to Sigma to Make Full-Frame RF Lenses

The big green is the Sigma 200-500 f/2.8. It was introduced after Sigma introduced their 120-300 f/2.8 and 300-800 f/5.6 lenses, weighed 35 pounds and, the last time I saw it listed, had a price of $27,000. I was posting on DP Review when it was introduced and the ridicule it got at introduction was severe. I was extremely disappointed because I wanted a 200-500 f/4. The Sigma CEO said that it was a dream of his father's and it had to be made or the father would haunt him..

It seems that this generation's oddity is the BF. Maybe they should have considered a very compact APS-C L-mount body to compete with Sony's 6X00 series and provide a market for APS-C L-mount lenses..

If Neuro is correct about the Canon-Sigma RF-mount licensing agreement, and he probably is, there is probably also a penalty clause if Sigma releases the details of that agreement, specifically the amounts of the licensing fees. Canon is hardly blameless in this situation. Buyer-seller relationships are inherently adversarial.
It's currently available as a special order at £15,000, and has dedicated TCs. I know someone who has one for astrophotography.
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Canon Says it’s up to Sigma to Make Full-Frame RF Lenses

Are you talking about the big green thing in post #50?
A real lens, used to be the most expensive (apart from Canon's 1200 f/5.6 that is a rarity) but Canon's RF800/1200 make it look cheap.
The big green is the Sigma 200-500 f/2.8. It was introduced after Sigma introduced their 120-300 f/2.8 and 300-800 f/5.6 lenses, weighed 35 pounds and, the last time I saw it listed, had a price of $27,000. I was posting on DP Review when it was introduced and the ridicule it got at introduction was severe. I was extremely disappointed because I wanted a 200-500 f/4. The Sigma CEO said that it was a dream of his father's and it had to be made or the father would haunt him..

It seems that this generation's oddity is the BF. Maybe they should have considered a very compact APS-C L-mount body to compete with Sony's 6X00 series and provide a market for APS-C L-mount lenses..

If Neuro is correct about the Canon-Sigma RF-mount licensing agreement, and he probably is, there is probably also a penalty clause if Sigma releases the details of that agreement, specifically the amounts of the licensing fees. Canon is hardly blameless in this situation. Buyer-seller relationships are inherently adversarial.
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Canon Says it’s up to Sigma to Make Full-Frame RF Lenses

RF lenses are outrageously expensive for what they offer, and it's all thanks to the monopoly that Canon enforces on the mount. These kind of things should not even be legal in my opinion.
Sigma lenses are great. I have two Art ones and no complaints. I very much doubt that they are allowed to do full frame ones since nobody else did either.
Also, to be totally fair, Sigma is not producing the lens that I want for other mounts either. So at this moment I am good in general. There are tons of EF lenses that work great. Buying new lenses make no sense.
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Canon Says it’s up to Sigma to Make Full-Frame RF Lenses

Well, with that barrel diameter on the AI generated camera+lens image there should be no problem for Canon, as the barrel seems rather to small to fit the RF mount ....!!
I am not a super fan of AI generated images for that sort of things.

Edit: On second inspection it may not even be AI generated, but just a composite where lens and camera are not to scale??
Are you talking about the big green thing in post #50?
A real lens, used to be the most expensive (apart from Canon's 1200 f/5.6 that is a rarity) but Canon's RF800/1200 make it look cheap.
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Canon PowerShot V3 is Coming Later in 2025

Like a lot of others, I'm lamenting the lack of a quality, affordable compact superzoom. My main camera is a 70D. But my SX720 was always in my pocket/beach bag/bike pack. Unfortunately it died last summer. Went looking for a replacement and guess what? No one was making an affordable compact.superzoom any more.

My night time/ indoor walk around camera is my G16. I know there is a relationship between sensor size and zoom capabilities and I don't know what the formula is, but the 1/1.7 senor in my G16 produces noticably better better pics than 1/2.3 sensor in sx720. Is the 1.7 too big to accommodate a long zoom? Maybe not 40x, but a 20x zoom with that sensor.would be a great compromise between size,. affordability and zoom.

I think the G16 offers a great starting point to build on for an affordable compact superzoom. Especially if they can keep the lens as fast as it is on the G16.
Very good IQ for a compact camera, hot shoe and a (somewhat inaccurate) OVF.
Thoughts?
I also want a high end super zoom that can be wide angle, do well in low light, etc. The specs rumored below to me would be good, although it would be better if the zoom was more than 20X :) A new 750 would be great as I would assume it would have a 40X zoom! I would pay the money based on how well they can enable it to do wide angle, low light, yet still have a massive zoom.

Rumored Canon V3 Specifications:
  • Sensor: 1.4-inch 22.4-megapixel CMOS sensor (likely the same as the V1/R7).
  • Lens: 20x optical zoom (approx. 24-480mm or 24-500mm 35mm equivalent).
  • Viewfinder: Built-in electronic viewfinder (EVF) expected for a better shooting experience.
  • Design & Handling: Deeper hand grip and more robust body, prioritizing a compact stills camera over a dedicated vlogging tool.
  • Performance: Likely to feature 8-stop image stabilization.
  • Video: Potential for 4K capabilities, but likely without active cooling.
  • Release Date: Targeted for the fourth quarter of 2025.
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The V3 is rumored to act as a modern, compact successor to cameras like the Canon G3X or SX740HS, designed to appeal to photographers needing portability and high-powered zoom.
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Are Three New PowerShots Coming in 2026?

"Super Zoom" is a broad term. It could be a 740hs replacement or a G3x replacement. Personally, I would prefer the latter. I have a P1000, and it is an interesting and useful camera (after you figure out its idiosyncrasies), but it is HUGE and in no way could be called a "compact" camera. A G3x zoom range with the V1 sensor and aggressive electronic lens correction could be close to the same size as the G3x and that would be pretty cool.
What I want is a high quality camera that has both wide angle but also with a zoom more like the 740, with a 40X to be a high end travel camera. If they did a Powershot V3 then it needs minimum of 20x but ideally a bit more zoom. I would pay more if it had wide angle, high image quality and with big zoom; $1200 to $2000. If it was on that higher end price it would be more like a combo of the 750 & V3.
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Canon Says it’s up to Sigma to Make Full-Frame RF Lenses

Oh look, it's the #1 member of the Cult of Canon! He's continuing to drink the Flavor Aid, I'm so surprised. /s
Oh look, when one of your typically inane replies is challenged you have no ability to formulate a substantive response so you petulantly resort to an ad hominem response. Thoroughly puerile, and no one is surprised.
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Canon EOS R7 Mark II Rumored Specifications Round-up

I don't have a camera that hasn't been launched yet. R1 with the RF 85/1.2L DS.

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(The greenish cast is from a green/shamrock runner that's on the console in front of her, St. Patrick's Day decor.)
An appropriate facial expression for the stale (wilful?) misapprehensions in this thread.
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Canon EOS R7 Mark II Rumored Specifications Round-up

I’m worried about the buffer in the (rumored) R7ii. I’d like a very substantial buffer, but aren’t buffers going to be limited by the supply of CFexpress cards. Indirect logic, I know… but will Canon still raise the price of the R7ii/resist lowering the price (by installing less buffer/DRAM) if the market as a whole can’t use it?

Maybe it makes no difference, because Canon can still sell the camera based on the specs?

I feel like this is a camera that will pull people up market from cameras without CFe slots. But dang, if you don’t own CFe cards by now…

Anyway, just something I’m concerned about - In the fantasy land where the camera I actually want may be a reality 😅
For a buffer the camera needs memory chips (in scarce supply, with rising prices). A CF Express cards with high sustained writing speeds helps the camera clearing the buffer, i.e. writing the raw (or jpeg) files from the buffer to the card.
Canon has indicated that rising prices of memory chips may result in higher camera prices.
Prices of CF Express cards have gone up (see this thread).
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Is Vistilen the Next Third-Party RF Lens Manufacturer?

Brand identification/ marketing would be hard if phoenix legal structures were used.
It is possible that these lens would only be available within China where it would be harder for Canon to enforce any copyright/patent infringements.

Entirely likely that they use EF autofocus with RF physical mount.
The lenses don't have to have the fastest or quietest AF motors and still be competitive vs native lenses.
AF Meike lenses are relatively inexpensive eg 35-85mm f1.4-f2 models range from USD135-USD400 on B&H. The price would be cheaper within China.

We are seeing more hardware eg phones that are only available in China where the middle class market is becoming a big enough segment to support volume - especially at the price points vs native lenses.
Xiaomi, Vivo and Oppo all have china-excluding models for instance and these are not low end models.

For perspective, 2% of China's population is about 30m people who have >USD50k personal disposable income ie prosumers.
Add the number of professionals eg wedding photographers then the addressable market is larger.

Canon may also not go for them as it would mean more MILC body sales in China.
On the exact opposite, Canon has a own sub company in China, which sues anyone trying to sell third party RF lenes. Nikon just did it to Viltrox.
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Is Vistilen the Next Third-Party RF Lens Manufacturer?

Probably a shell company set up specifically to sell RF versions of the Meike lenses under a different brand. That way when Canon decides to sue the pants off them, there are no assets to go after. That shell company can just be shut down and another one will pop up. This might end up being the way the Chinese brands get their lenses onto RF.
They've been seelling those in south east asia for over one year.
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