neurorx said:

Hello I wanted to see if anyone had any recommendations for a zoom lens that was up to 600mm for an R5. I have the EF 100-400 II but would like some additional reach for birds and other more rapidly moving wildlife. I didnt really see an advantage on the RF 100-500 with an f7.1 so I was trying to see if there were any other options others were using with the ability to focus rapidly and be sharp. Some of the reviews of the Sigma and Tamron lenses seemed to mention this, but I wasnt clear on how significant the issue was. I wanted something <2000 USD and more useable than a 7.1. I had hoped Canon would have done a 200-600mm f6.3 but alas no. Any thoughts or recommendations would be appreciated. Thank you.

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I have a tamron ef 150-600 G2, which I use on an R5. Its ok, wouldn't rave about it. I understand from reading reviews your 100-400 II will out resolve my tamron at a 400 v 600 comparison.

I had a go in and outside a shop of the 800mm f11 canon and I recon my adapted tampon is faster to focus. Focus accuracy I can't compare. But suggest the tamron is probably better, but it is bigger.

The rf 100-500 is pretty sweet, but your existing lens is not far behind. Gordon Laing does a pretty good comparison of the two on YouTube.

To sum up, unless you spend buckets on a prime, you have already got a very good lens. Keep that.

On to the ISO points raised above, I have used my R5 at 12,800 plus additional shadow recovery and I think its very good. Especially now that @AlanF suggested DXO DeepPrime. I am having a go with he free trial of DXO Pure Raw, which can be used as a plugin to Lightroom and other apps and has DeepPrime built in and the results are remarkable.

There are some great observations and illustrations in the video and if you are seriously interested in either camera is worth a look.

The short version is both cameras are amazing with practically identical image quality, but it is difficult to justify the additional cost of the Sony.

Things that slow my R6 down. LP-E6 BATTERY. LP-E6N or LP-E6NH battery with lowish charge. My sigma 150-600c lens. If i want full speed then a full charge on a good battery and a native lens is needed.TBH though it shoots more than fast enough even if it is not pumping out the full 12fps

Mt Spokane Photography said:

After reading thru the Wikipedia article that describes the current state, it is a technology that is starting to be possible but its true potential is currently out of reach. The amount of data, computing power, and bandwidth required to view a high end volumetric video at home does not exist but some fairly basic uses are currently in use such as 360 cameras for sports games.

The future potential is only limited by the imagination, it will truly change the world, It will be used for things we don't even expect. Once a background is captured, it can be modified and reused over and over in ways that viewers may not recognize.

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I was shown a demo in which the ads displayed on the low wall around a soccer field were replaced in re-run. The system identified the wall, as well as the occlusions, and replaced the ads. I wouldn't be surprised if, eventually, it could be done in real time, and the broadcasting rights would include the right to replace them with localized ads.

My only wonder is that Japan are allowing the thing to go ahead at all given the concerns the general population in Japan has. But then the Olympics is now a purely financially driven exercise so it's no wonder really.

As for limitations countries put on travelers, I fully support any and all restrictions countries put on foreigners to either protect their own citizens or give their citizens the feeling they are being protected. I work part time in a small Caribbean nation that had a full 14 day quarantine for the longest time, that is, you stayed in a guarded hotel room for 14 days. No leaving the room at all. Once you were out of quarantine you had to wear a tracking device until you left the country.

As for John, I'd be excited at the unique image possibilities this truly 'different' Games will bring. Much more Getty than AP.

Chig said:

Not really as fast as it's 30fps is only compressed RAW , the A1 can only shoot 20fps RAW same as the R5

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The R5 reduces image quality when shooting at 20FPS by reducing the RAW files to only 12 bit.

Twitter friend, whisky connoisseur, and TWiT TV host Ant Pruitt has completed his review of the Canon Cinema EOS C70. I prefer reviews that come after the initial hype of a release.
Canon Cinema EOS C70 Key Features

Canon Super 35mm Dual Gain Output (DGO) Sensor, 16+ stops of Total Dynamic Range
DIG!C DV7 Image Processor
Canon Log 2, 3, PQ, HLG Recording
RF Mount
EF Lens Compatibility with Mount Adapter
Direct Touch Control
9×16 Vertical Shooting
New Compact, Uni-Body Design

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Continue reading...

Very nice! Wasn't expecting this.

Bdbtoys said:

@Crazee ... Quick question on the OP.

Are you saying it did not over heat prior to 1.3.1 or it did not change existing overheat limits with 1.3.1?

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I have the Same Feeling with my R5 and my R6...

neuroanatomist said:

Of course it’s not. There were patents for it. But releasing it only in an RF mount, or releasing a lens like the 28-70 f/2 only in RF mount, drives sales of both those lenses and the R bodies in which they mount.

You asked, “Why bother with an RF mount?” The answer is simple…more profit. You may wish they’d just stuck with the EF mount because it would be easier/cheaper/more convenient for you. Canon doesn’t really care about making things easier/cheaper/more convenient for their customers. They care about profit. That’s what for-profit companies are for, which is why they’re called for-profit.

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And I believed Canon was a charity.
I will jump ship, onto the soni raft !

Ok, for anyone who is curious, Canon Australia responded that the RF 15-35's max reproduction ratio is 0.1x at 15mm.
This was much more helpful than Canon USA's response of "it would likely be significantly less than .21x".

This confirms that the 14-35mm offers more magnification at all focal lengths.

So slowing this release down means that some will hold off from further purchases and this may allow lens manufacture to catch up. A few units out for trials will mean that software can mature and reviews will be ready. and another wave of buying and market excitement will help canon sales again. from people shifting older bodies to others and them buying lenses and accessories. I wonder when the millionth RF lens will be produced?

Chaitanya said:

I didnt see it posted in review section so posted it again, but yes it's quite odd review for 24-105mm STM especially seeing it in lab setting.

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When you attempt to post a new thread, a section comes up under it which reads "Similar threads", and this continues to be displayed under the thread, as seen below.

A fool and his money are soon parted. 99.99 % scam, why even bother with it. He may accept Paypal and then send you a box of rocks. Since there is a delivery and tracking, you may spend months trying to get a refund.

I think it'll end up growing on you and you'll find it racks across the focus range much less in real world shooting situations than when you're testing it's limits focusing between near and far objects in your house. That being said if you do try to focus on something closer than the minimum focus distance, it does definitely try to hunt across the entire range to find an object it can focus on, so if you are trying to get as close to a "macro" shot as possible, I would suggest the focus limiter.

I hope you end up loving it. Happy shooting!

CanonFanBoy said:

Probably true, but kinda doesn't make sense without prints. At least, not to me. Everyone has their "thing", I guess.

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I get prints from the digitized image from film....that way I can clean it up and fix it like you might have in the darkroom days....

I pretty much only shoot film, however, in aspect ratios I just can't shoot with digital....like my 6x17 medium format view camera....one click panos, no stitching....

I also play with 6x6 (Hassy), 6x9 (fuji), 6x12 (Ondu pinhole)...and recently I dipped my toe into 35mm....but with a Russian HorizonT swing lens pano camera.

At some point, I plan to jump into 4x5 large format photography....again, something that is beyond most digital today....

Right now, I take my film to a place not far for developing, but I bring the negatives home. I've been using Silverfast with an Epson flatbed scanner, but I"m building a rig with mostly Negative Supply gear to fix up a decently high end film negative scanner, using my GFX100 as the scanning camera.

I'm thinking on very special images that I want high resolution for printing....I might scan using pixel shift and see what a 400MP image would do for me...I'm guessing that might come close to drum scanner level?

I dunno....its all just fun....

And I've really been finding that not only are legacy lenses fun on digital, combined with actual film stock, seem to give a "feel" and I dunno...texture maybe that digital just doesn't.

Don't get me wrong, I loves me some digital...but I figure the film stuff is just another arrow in my quiver of tools for creating.

It certainly (to me) has its place.

I do plan next to get some Patterson tanks and spools and try my hand at developing my own stuff. My place does it for about $7/roll....but of late, their processes seem to give less than great results...I'm thinking maybe they haven't serviced or cleaned their equipment in awhile?

Anyway....

neuroanatomist said:

Was it? You stated, “This light and inexpensive lens is not for those who insist on turning off the advanced electronic features the lens (or car) was designed for.” Do you honestly believe many people turn off corrections for distortion or vignetting, which all lenses exhibit to some degree? Far more likely, those who want better IQ will, if possible, use a lens with less of those aberrations, to minimize the decrement to IQ that results from correcting them.

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You seem nice.

I almost have to laugh at the comment that 'Canon will continue to “promote” the EOS M lineup.'

I held out for a long time hoping that Canon would turn the EOS M lineup into something useful, but eventually gave up and went for a Fuji X-S10 as a travel camera. The biggest shortcoming of the EOS M lineup is the lack of decent EF-M lenses - quite simply nowhere compared to what Fuji's X mount system has available. A good example is the Fuji 18-55mm f/2.8-f/4 "kit" lens - which is a great compromise for travel. Canon has nothing like it.
The EF-M lens lineup seems to be targeted more at lower-spec use cases, which is quite unfortunate. I decided I would just have to put up with Fuji's absolutely abysmal menu system...

Some sports photographers I follow on instagram have teased the R3. One guy who shoots the olympics shared this picture with seeming affirmation that these are R3 cameras for them to use... https://www.instagram.com/p/CQx0qTJL6S4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
In case you don't have IG:

Elmonducky said:

Makes sense, if canon can sell direct at retail why sell to dealers at wholesale.

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Just got mine directly from Canon. Frankly, would have much rather gotten it through one of our favorite retailers but took the plunge when they got stock.

Don't know the internal details and plans but Canon needs to keep both their trusted retailers happy and keep us, as consumers, happy. Is there an internal formula that determines how much of each batch goes to which entity? And, with all the supply chain issues and chip shortages, has this changed?

You need to buy the USB dock and update the firmware.
After that, this lens will work perfectly with the R5 and R6.

AlanF said:

Software that handles noise well is important. My preference is for DxO PL4 as you can use their DeepPrime or Prime noise reduction at the press of a click, and do a remarkable job without requiring any skill, retaining maximum detail.

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Thanks for the tip

AlanF said:

I didn't know that "/s" means sarcastic, and English is my native language. So, I have learned something. Actually, it's too easy to lapse into jargon and abbreviations, which we assume everyone knows but not everybody does. I often write out in full things like, for example, "minimum focal distance" rather than use mfd all the time in case newcomers aren't familiar.

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I've never heard that "/s" means sarcasm. And I'm in the US. If you want it obvious to all the different cultures of the world, you'll have to use an "obvious emoji" like or else say "(just joking)", "(sarcasm)" or something like that.

CPW is showing the R5 and R6 bodies at $200 off MAP/MSRP.

blackcoffee17 said:

They want more people to buy the R6 and R5.

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Well tough. People should be allowed to have good features in a cheaper high resolution (higher than the R6) camera like the EOS R. It's not fair. They can't always get what they want.