Should be pretty easy to add CLog3. I am having fun playing around with it using the 8K Raw. Took this 8K shot at ISO 5000

Pretty impressed how usable the file is, not perfect and I really only set it to CLog3 and turned down the exposure a little to hide some of the shadow noise.

Not sure why youtube is taking so long to encode the 4K and 8K options.

cayenne said:

Yeah....good luck with that.

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People do buy lottory tickets although the chances are one to zillion. Don't kill hope among photographers.

SecureGSM said:

I’d say, that EOSHD is ripe for a well deserved, an early retirement.

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Him and that old tattoo fart can retire in hollywood, plenty of vacated property there.

RayValdez360 said:

i still make a lot of money with 1080p especially with out low quality streaming sites and social media is. it might take forever for 8k to be as relevant to the masses.

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That’s not what it will be used for for a while. Ken Burns made the effect of where he shoots at a higher rez, and then scans around the frames, sometimes zooming to a portion. That’s a very good reason to use 8k. That’s what 4k is being used for for 2k production.

I also know people who shoot at the higher rez and then bin down to get better sharpness and s/n. This is for video as well as the well used situation with stills. I’ve done it many times myself.

with Tvs now at 4K, with nary a 2k model even at low price levels, 2k shoots have tapered off dramatically. So 4K has been normal for quite a while, even before 4K Tv became popular. It’s called archival shooting. You shoot for future formats, and final produce for current formats. It’s called purposing. An edit list will just as easily work for a final 4K edit as it did for the 2k edit.

so now we’re beginning to see shoots in 8k, edited down to 4K, with eventual release at 8k.

while I’m not a fan of the idea of 8k Tv, and for most purposes even 4K is a waste of viewing, it is what it is. People are going to want productions in the rez they bought, whether they can see it from their seating distance or not.

lnz said:

on amazon it's still 30th september...

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Has me sad too!!! Was really hoping to get an update today.

I'm mostly a stills shooter and do some video these days. I have done some demanding video at times for projects, but for nearly everything 4K30 is very acceptable. For 4K60, external recording is cheaper than the memory cards. 4K120 would only be for slow mow and only a fool needs a long cut of that- it is an overused effect in many productions. 8K is completely useless and cumbersome as of now. Down sampled HQ 4K may make some sense but wonderful productions have been made with worse than the 4k30 on the R5.

In my opinion, all the types whining are a mob of irrational fools who spend more time emotionally spun up about gear or generating useless youtube clips for their inane and uneducated followers than they ever do making quality content. These are not doers, they are people who talk about doing and agonize over having the best and how they are perceived. Real artists and professionals get gear that works for them and move on with life. People today just want to complain, want to be victims, want to be important, or worse, are just paid parasites stirring up controversy for clicks.

I've heard very few logical arguments for why the R5 is unusable- mostly just a spoiled crowd of wannabes endlessly emoting and feeding off each other in a big dumb vapid group think.

Yes, sad to watch...and makes you wonder....Are all video gear-heads on forums idiots? Evidence is clearly mounting in that direction.

Sorry, posting exisits in "Reviews". Admin: Please delete

preppyak said:

Tamron 28-200 is $729 and probably has equal IQ to that 20-60 while actually being a useable focal range.

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Anything that that starts at 28mm is unusable for me. 24 is the narrowest I'll ever start at. The 20mm focal length is great for landscapes. Getting that a low price is great, having very good IQ at that FL at a low price is equally great. I hope the Tamron is optically great, it might be right for some, but not for me.

This is a Canon forum, co most of us only really know Canon cameras and lenses.

The term Good lens often means a professional grade lens to us, that usually means a high price.

I'm assuming that you are asking about lenses for a D3500. privatebydesign has given a good suggestion for a lens that would be good. It is a full frame design so it is more expensive at around $600. 60 mm is a good focal length for your camera, this lens would be my choice and it is in stock at B&H Cameras.



A less expensive lens that is designed for a APS-C sensor would be the Nikon AF-S DX Micro NIKKOR 40mm f/2.8G. Its $276 but most stores are out of stock. It should be in stock soon. It is a wider lens but will work for both portrait and macro at half the price.

Nikon AF-S DX Micro NIKKOR 40mm f/2.8G Lens

Buy Nikon AF-S DX Micro NIKKOR 40mm f/2.8G Lens featuring F-Mount Lens/DX Format, 60mm (35mm Equivalent), Aperture Range: f/2.8 to f/22, Super Integrated Coating, 1:1 Magnification, 6.4" Minimum Focus, Silent Wave Motor AF System, Close Range Correction System, Rounded 7-Blade Diaphragm. Review...

www.bhphotovideo.com

Be careful selecting lenses for Nikon cameras, it can be frustrating. You should stay with G series lenses for your camera to assure full compatibility. Thats important when you look at used lenses and want autofocus. Don't expect autofocus to work for macro shots.

Additionally, Nikon will not Warranty or even repair what is known as Graymarket lenses. There are sellers who sell them at discounts but do not warn you. That includes places like Amazon and ebay as well as many online sellers.

A authorized Nikon dealer will not sell you a gray market lens. You can get one from B&H Photo, Adorama Photo, or even Best Buy. A lens that specifically says sold and shipped by Amazon will not be gray market.

Best Buy has the 60mm in stock, but the 40mm is backordered.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nikon-af-s-micro-nikkor-60mm-f-2-8g-ed-macro-lens-black/8815614.p?skuId=8815614

john1970 said:

I noticed that if you protect a RAW file in camera that Capture One throws an error during importing the protected RAW file. Can anyone else replicate this problem? Please let me know. I also noticed that if I imported a picture into Canon DPP that the highlights were not clipped and the highlights were clipped in Capture One. These are just my first two observations. I can work with the highlights, but the error with protected RAW files is annoying.

Thank you,
John

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Since I started using C1 earlier this year, I've found changing the profile to Linear Response produces better results for me. The default curves can be on the aggressive side if exposure is pushing the limits a bit. C1 has been great, but it's still new to me so maybe I just haven't found a way to break it yet.

I had such troubles too, thanks for answers

I have had good luck with the Godox and GVM product for less expansive options that offer good quality.

I use a Godox SL-60 and GVM 50RS for a lot of stuff without issues. If you are really on a budget you can try some flood lamps from Home Depot with home made filters

-pekr- said:

They can't release the R camera without a joystick. That would be extremely stupid. 1 card slot, most probably. Lower FPS or lesser video modes, OK, but joystick in an R line? What would they replace it with? The stupid bar again?

Besides all of that, I really wonder, if Canon recently has another sensor in the pipeline. Remember - R reused or was based upon the 5DIV, RP ditto for the 6DII and R6 might be the slight modification to 1DX III one. Well, I might be mistane though, maybe changes needed there were there anyway, but really wonder, what is the next sensor going to be - a 30mpx? A high megapixel variant?

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Well, I happen to find the bar works just fine for me. So, no problem there for me.

Hector1970 said:

Looks impressive. Obviously trying to sell to a wide audience. In general they really did make a mess of sensor sizing naming. The use of imperial measurements in a digital era was not a good idea. I don’t know why they didn’t use area or diagonal width.

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And what's worse is it isn't even really the imperial (or US customary; the two aren't really the same in some realms like liquid measure, an imperial gallon is larger than a US gallon, so it's a distinction sometimes worth making) size of the sensor, the thing being referenced is the diameter of the vacuum tube they used to come in, which of course was larger. So even a "one inch" sensor isn't one inch.

And just to make it even worse than that, the number is expressed as a reciprocal, 1/1.8, causing people to focus on the 1.8 and even sometimes call it 1.8, and creating a backwards scale, rather than just calling it 5/9ths. (Of course this is nothing new as f numbers often omit the /, creating the perception of another backwards system where a bigger number means less.)

Codebunny said:

From the sample images that seems so, but I sadly don't have a R. I am looking at the R5 but will give a while longer to see if there are any musings of a R1. The RF 800 might be a cracker for taking on a boat out to the Isle of May where I wouldn't want to take expensive kid through fear of falling off the boat.

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Since the 800 when extended is almost all air, the boat can circle back and pick up your camera bobbing in the water when you accidentally drop it over the side.

cayenne said:

Well, it appears that B&H are shipping them out as fast as they get them, first come first server....try one there maybe?

B&H R5 Canon camera for sale

HTH,

cayenne

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I'm in Canada, altough I do buy quite a bit from B&H, a camera I will not, for starters its costing me about $200 more if I buy from the states, and secondly not sure if this is still the case but in the past Canon has not put "north america" warranty on their products but either US or Canada warranty, so if I buy from the states I am not sure Canon Canada would warranty any repairs. So for these reasons I am waiting to buy at a Canadian store.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

Yes, it flashed red but not in servo. You could not easily see the black focus points in darker areas. The EVF has a white lighted focus point that turns green or blue, its much better than those black ones. You can concentrate on keeping the subject under the focus point and still see it turn green. It goes back to white if focus is lost.

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tanks!

I never downloaded the updated version, the original has a lot of strange errors, its hard to use.

lbeck said:

Curious about the exact type of AF issue you were having with the first copy?

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I probably shouldn't have even mentioned the possible issue (basically missing focus occasionally on simple scenes with lots of contrast) since I didn't fully test...it can be anything at this point, but I'm leaning toward my theory above. I mainly wanted to ask about the production dates on the lens, because the irregularities (a pretty old production date from a store that turns over stock often, plus the debris or other anomaly inside the lens).

1 hr cool down gave 9mins 7s recording....

Bdbtoys said:

I used 2 of these chargers... no high pitch noise.

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Thanks! A replacement is on its way.

I think this has been the most reasonable post about this topic I’ve seen, so thank you for keeping it sensible.

geffy said:

you have quite a storm happening in your head, i would be worried too if i had bought it but i always knew never to be first to buy and i never have.

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I have the storm in my head? I bought a camera I am happy with and am not spreading complete BS I heard from some biased internet source. I'm not worried in the slightest about my decision. I don't buy anything to be first, I buy when a tool is going to work for me. Until the R5, I always bought refurbished.

So stop trying to invent reality, whether from idle speculation, or an ego driven perspective. You have made zero arguments that hold up to any scrutiny and are proving yourself to be irrational and silly.

Got this one in the mail yesterday and picked on up. I needed the reader and the cards get decent reviews so what the heck/ Now I have 2.