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My EOS R doesn’t overheat. Why buy the new cameras?

I appreciate the replies. I’ve got money saved up and I’m looking for a new second camera before the next wedding in November. I need a reliable camera because during the ceremony and the reception I will be running one of the cameras on a tripod for around 30 min.
If I buy an R6 there are ZERO 4K modes where it doesn’t overheat and on the R5, I have to be careful to put it in the correct 4K mode or I’ll have the same problem.
In these Run and Gun wedding situations sometimes minor Errors can happen that can become huge problems. With the EOS R I have ZERO worries that my video will be ruined by overheating.
In short: I’m disappointed in the new cameras since they don’t fit my specific needs. I came home late and made this lame thread and didn’t realize I clicked “SUBMIT” until I came back to this site. Thanks again everyone for your replies and insight.
The R5 and R6 are 100% reliable and considerably more capable at higher quality than your R.

To say you are disappointed by the product you are offered because you might set a setting wrong is laughable when you consider the multitude of other things that you could do wrong. But even given that just set your preferred video settings to a C mode and you are done it will never overheat, see, it does fit your specific need.
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DPReview: Canon EOS R5 and R6 overheating claims tested: cameras work as promised – but that’s not enough

Ah, I understand. I was also suspicious about maybe another part of the camera outside of where the temperature was being measured may be getting hot. I had heard that the CF express cards get hot, but I'm surprised that they seem to be the bottleneck for how long this camera can record for. But I guess that does give hope that newer CF express cards may run cooler in the future.
I think newer tech working better is unlikely as it would be a newer standard that isn't implementable retroactively, like SD and SD UHS-II. I understand some people need more than the R5 can do but for them I'd just say move on and get a camera that does do what you need. The R5 does do what Canon says it does and you should plan any purchasing decision on that, and by most reasonable accounts and examples I have seen the standard 4k is extremely close to the 4kHQ and that is unlimited. I have also seen accounts of people shooting entire weddings with an R5 in one of the HQ modes using it smartly with the published design limitations in mind.

There will be people making a noise and EOSHD seem to have staked their claim as being the most ridiculously mistreated by Canon for daring to sell such a POS camera. Others are using it for what it was designed for and within its stated limits and are loving it.
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R5 colour science and skin tones.

Lots of people complained that the 5D4/R images were producing skins tones that were too green. You can’t please everyone when it comes to colours!

If I’m honest, I think a red tint is easier to deal with on skin than a green one. Red can be worked with, but green just looks....unnatural. IMO. That’s a change I lamented going from the 5D3 to the 5D4. Of course, no color cast at all would be ideal, but if one had to be picked...

It’s the blandness that I dislike though, not so much the tint. It seems to be challenging at best to replicate older colors, at least in DPP.
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Canon to introduce two 8K Cinema EOS cameras in 2021 [CR2]

Canon is on quite a large product "offensive"....

2 new Rx cameras with surely a high MP version within 12 months
R1 good chance for for the Olympic Games in 2021
New Cinema R cameras
New Cinema EOS cameras
Possible 1 or 2 M bodies
RF lenses

It seems that they've been doing a lot of design / development for the past 3 years (maybe longer) to create a step up in capabilities which is now all coming to fruition - which is damned good news for everyone...
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Canon USA officially responds to concerns about shipping delays of the Canon EOS R5

It looks like now if your remove the express cards and attach an Atomis Shogun 7, you can film in 8 or 4 K till the end of time, the overheating issue does not happen. Then when your ready to take pics, put the express cards back in. I'm good with that. Winters coming, long live the R5 in the North
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Deal of the Day: Datacolor Spyder-Lens-Cal Autofocus Calibration Aid $30 (Reg $69)

I don't think this is useful for mirrorless cameras. I don't even think the R or the R5 have AF micro adjustments in their menus. I know the Sony A7III had it when I briefly owned that camera, but I don't know what the point was. I was always under the impression that the point of AF micro adjustments was to correct for small misalignments between the image sensor and the AF sensor. But when the image sensor is the AF sensor, well I don't think there's any point any more.

This software is probably on sale because it's quickly going obsolete. ;)


Yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking....that this item may be going obsolete in the near future...

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Canon to introduce two 8K Cinema EOS cameras in 2021 [CR2]

Canon first teased an 8K Cinema EOS camera back in 2015 at the Canon EXPO, we’ve also seen some other sightings at various tradeshows over the years. Now that we have 8K capability in the Canon EOS R5, the next step for Canon will be to introduce a Cinema EOS camera with 8K capture.



I have been told that Canon will introduce not one, but two 8K Cinema EOS cameras in 2021. One of the cameras will be a flagship camera with “A camera” aspirations, likely in the form factor of the Canon Cinema EOS C700.



The second one I have been told will be a more modular camera in the same vein as the Cinema EOS C300 Mark III and Cinema EOS C500 Mark II. Where it exactly fits into the Cinema EOS ecosystem is unknown at this time.



I don’t expect an announcement until around the NAB 2021 timeframe, which usually...

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Canon EOS R5 records 4 hours of 4KHQ 30p to an external recorder, with a couple of simple tweaks

Perhaps could use an external CF express recorder using the hdmi cable but the micro size is fragile and who wants cables if you can avoid them ?
Can the hot shoe connection be used for data transfer?
If you really want to use the HDMI or USB C connectors a lot then just plug in the cable holder that comes with the R5. I've done that and it's makes the cable connection quite safe & secure for both of those cables. It's easy to put on & off if you leave your cables in the cable holder and just screw/unscrew it from the side of the camera.
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EOS m Lenses 5 new to be announced this year ?

Hi all,
Watching a "tech gear talk" video on youtube and he mentioned he had heard about 5 new M lenses being announced this year.
Was wondering if anyone else had heard that ?
15mm toneh 2, 52mm toneh 2, 62 macro toneh 4, 18-45 toneh 2.8-4, 100-300 no toneh

I think the primes are well covered already by Canon and Sigma i would hope they might bring us some HQ zooms ?
10-18 toneh 2.8 , 18-50 toneh 2.8, 50-200 toneh 2.8
this would make "baby Jesus" trinity !

Anyone know anything about these, or thoughts on what you'd like.

R1 Camera

Next item I'm wondering if that bit depth really does anything, like is the dynamic range still same but the resolution is just one bit less (on 14 vs 13), or does it also drop dynamic range by 1 bit. My sports shooting is always on the dark side so I need to push and having good dynamic range helps.
As R5 has roughly twice as many pixels per area as R6, 13 bits per pixel for R5 is roughly equivalent to 14 bits per pixel for R6, given the same exposure for both.

On R5 alone, the difference between 12, 13, and 14 bits per pixel should be unnoticeable at ISO 800 and up, as there is just not enough meaningful data coming from the light to fill all that extra bits.
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CLog and Auto ISO, together at last on the R5

Yes, I do.

I am well aware that there are legitimate reasons to be disappointed in Canon's recent product launches and especially the way the communcation around them, though.

But this is also the internet, and it knows no boundaries when it comes to outrage and general sillyness. Some of the recent discussions on this site have been great reminders for that. Having a little laugh about it seems to be the best one can do at this point.

Returning to actually helpful and productive topics - On the subject of auto, is it possible to set ISO to auto when an external flash unit is attached to the camera? On my cameras, doing that results in the ISO being effectively set to 400. What I would like to be able to do occasionally is have the camera just meter the scene as it usually does, and use a little bit of fill flash without affecting the other exposure settings. It may well be that despite looking I just haven't found the option that allows this - or it is just an arbitrary software limitation. If it is the latter, I am curious if the new RF generation still shows this behavior. That's really just a curiosity though, don't worry if you don't share it or nobody has the time to test it :)

with 5D4: Auto ISO settings with an external flash attached will result in ISO 400 settings by default.. that's to conserve flash power. in the AV mode, Camera will use flash as a fill by default (ETTL II).
as a side note: with R5 dual gain sensor, ISO 400 settings for flash makes perfect sense. you save on power flash and ensure that the noise levels are as low as at ISO 100.
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This is probably the best camera review I’ve ever watched – Gerald Undone with the Canon EOS R5 and Canon EOS R6

Well, you got me there. I appreciate your feedback. But all those footnotes are really ugly, like a pharma ad. If that many are needed, it would be worthwhile to consider rewording a bit, IMHO. But my spear was a little over sharpened in my comment. Canon could have avoided a lot of the thrashing by pro-actively handling it at announcement. EG, “We decided to include these amazing video modes even though their use is time-constrained by thermal factors. It was our primary goal to create a high-resolution sensor in a compact, weather-sealed camera body desired by so many of our customers.” Something like that. Best to acknowledge the issue and get your own spin on it first. Hope for a soft landing. This one landed pretty hard.
That I agree with you. Absolutely.And thank you for writing back on this issue. As I previously posted: in my opinion, Canon did went a bit Gung Ho with this press release and in particular high end production readiness references. The language they used is questionable in some parts of the text, as you pointed out. So.., thank you!
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R5 - Star trails, heat and battery life

I vote for a hot pixel. The magenta color is wrong for reflected light. Also, i think geostationary distance is something like 22K miles out, so pretty small source to show up on a wide angle lens.
See my post on the last page. I ran another 24min exposure with a body cap on. Sure enough it's still there. It's a hot pixel. :cautious:
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R5 burst speeds when using the electronic shutter

I guess, shooting with electronic shutter at 20FPS and dropping every fourth frame you get 15FPS and dropping every second frame you get 10FPS. I am sure that can be implemented in firmware :)
You would think so. But so far both the EOS R and the R5 have only one burst speed in electronic shutter mode. Like I said, I'm not gonna complain.

Maybe once the data flow is opened up between the sensor and the buffer memory of the camera, that's just a freight train that you can't slow down. :unsure:
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Battery Life and heat issue shooting stills.

The Zebras were particulary dark. And darker stripes running through or right next to the eye. But the camera did pick up the eye of birds with black heads, so I do not know why it dont work on Zebra.

We're going to end up with a third choice for subject of eye focus. Humans, zebras, and all other animals. :D

Though perhaps we'll have to wait for the R5Z for that.
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B&H Body Availability News

Heads-up, my credit card was charged today for my order with Canon USA (EPP, Body Only, placed on 7/20/20 @ 2am). Hopefully it doesn't have anything to do with the site maintenance.

Please update/add yourself to the Unofficial R5 Pre-Order Tracker (in my sig) if you haven't done so already.

I assume you verified it was the correct amount, or I would be worried since their sites are still down.
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