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rightslot · Nov 4, 2020

I am thrilled that this new 70-200 f4 is available. Hopefully we (I) can take Canon's word--and the few early testers on Youtube that the imaging is as good/better than the f4 EF version.

As far back as I remember the EF version was always considered a great bargain, same focal length and possibly better sharpness.

I usually don't do this, but ordered from B&H first thing this morning. And...sent back/canceled an order for the 2.8 version from Amazon. Never took delivery of it. For the most part, I need the length outdoors. However, with the super excellent ISO of the R5 the f/4 selected shots indoors shouldn't be a huge problem.

Supposedly delivered 1 or second week of December. We'll see.

mangobutter · Nov 4, 2020

Released Dec 3. It was actually difficult to find. buy it from where you want but Adorama was going to charge me $8 to ship.

Amazon.com : Canon RF50mm F1.8 STM (4514C002) : Camera & Photo

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Del Paso · Nov 3, 2020

YuengLinger said:
Thanks! Nice to be talking about standards! Not just vague marketing terms.

Sounds like interesting work, testing the effectiveness of a "vibratory apparatus"! Maybe even pleasurable?

Shame on you !

woodman411 · Nov 2, 2020

Sporgon said:
It's inevitable really given that the two major ICL camera manufacturers were totally ascent from the FF mirrorless market. Once they entered it Sony's sales were going to take a big hit, and Sony would have been aware of this.

This was not guaranteed to happen, especially with the lukewarm reception and widespread media criticism of the R. If you look at the second half of 2019 when Sony was recovering share and crested above 60% at one point, many headlines were trumpeting Sony's dominance. The glowing Sony reviews (eg. DPReview) during the 2017-2019 time period had a Apple-Nokia vibe where it was viewed that Sony was the full-frame market disruptor (a la iPhone) and Canon was the established dinosaur.

Jethro said:
To me the more interesting part of those stats was how Nikon has been flat-lining (at a low ~10%). They must have had a similar development budget to Canon (at least for FFM bodies if not for lenses) and they would have to be disappointed? If the 'big 3' are in danger of contracting to 2, I'm not sure it's Sony in the firing line.

When Nikon started adopting Sony sensors in their FF lineup, it was simply a matter of time before Sony would overtake them, as mirrorless technology is increasingly sensor + processor driven, and mirrorless slowly takes over. Hovering in and around 10% share, Nikon needs the second generation Z series to make a splash like the R5/R6 has. Also unlike Sony and Canon, Nikon does not have a cinema division where various products can overlap, putting them at another disadvantage. At a macro level, combining these factors in addition to the lack of wow-factor in the Z lens lineup, I join the camp where it is viewed that Nikon will eventually fade into irrelevance as it becomes a two-horse race between Canon and Sony.

Czardoom said:
I have been critical of Sony - both because I briefly owned their cameras - which I would consider them more of a tech gadget made for gear-heads than a serious camera for photographers - but more because of the fanboy network which spreads their propaganda on forums and YouTube videos. So, I would be very happy to see them go down and go down hard, but, please, their lead is still over 9%. The fact that they dropped form 100% is meaningless as they were the only one selling mirrorless FF. So, as soon as Canon and Nikon joined the game, we could have expected a huge drop. As long as their share is above 33%, they are succeeding.

So, in actuality, there has been no collapse. And being 9% behind, Canon's takeoever is far from immanent. I hope it happens, but as long as Sony's fanboy network remains strong, they are in no danger of collapsing, in my opinion.

Did you see the graph? Sony lost more than 10% share within the past 2 months, coinciding with the R5/R6 production increase. Short of an A series fire sale, there is nothing from Sony that can slow this in the next few months (it has probably already happened, as the referenced graph is two months behind). Also, the point of my post was to highlight trends and where the numbers are heading. 2nd half of 2019 Sony and Canon lines were diverging, then in 2020 it started converging, and now we are at the precipice of something big - Canon moving on top of the FF mirrorless market. How much Canon surges ahead of Sony, and whether Sony can reverse this trend, only time will tell.

Mt Spokane Photography said:
I'd be skeptical of statistics. Losing market share may not mean lower sales, it may mean juts a lower percentage of increasing sales.

Market share shows how one is doing relative to the competition, which is the crux of this thread. This is not really a discussion of overall market health, sales, or profits. I agree that short term market share statistics should be viewed with a grain of salt, which is why the referenced graph spans across years.

dilbert · Nov 2, 2020

flip314 said:
How much better is actual tilt than perspective correction in Photoshop? Obviously you will lose some quality from stretching and squashing pixels, but how much does it really matter?

When you apply perspective correction in software, the software has to either remove detail or invent detail. It uses mathematical algorithms to guess what should happen.

When you use tilt/shift, there's less of a need to use softwre to invent new pixels or to take away pixels.

Dalantech · Nov 2, 2020

usern4cr said:
Beautiful shot, John! Was this with your home-made diffuser, or has Canon come out with something new in diffusers?

Thanks! It was with a home made set.

BBarn · Nov 2, 2020

Yes, it would seem to make more sense as an apsc lens.

I was really hoping for IS on a lower cost 50mm. With no IS, no Macro, and only one ring, I simply don't see the point. Especially for anyone who has an EF to RF adapter.

The single ring is a bit puzzling. Normally a focus ring has no clicks and a programmable ring has them. A single ring would seem strange sharing those possible functions unless the clicks come and go with according to the mode selected (focus or other).

I don't see it as a good option for a kit lens. Zooms are standard on the cheapest cameras as well as phones and I think most buyers of a kit would be a bit confounded with the limitations of only one focal length. A fixed lens would likely seem strange and cumbersome to someone graduating from a point and shoot or phone.

foreverland · Nov 2, 2020

Sporgon said:
Enjoyed that, quite atmospheric. I use to fence epee, even sneaked into the top 200 in the U.K.

Thanks Sporgon!

peters · Nov 2, 2020

EOS 4 Life said:
Not unless you use an external recorder or record for less than an hour at a time.

I must say I can work around the limitations of the R5. But not beeing able to record 4k reliable for over an hour AT ALL is pretty disturbing.
I guess this emphasizes even more the photography party of the camera than the 6D was at its time.

Joules · Nov 2, 2020

Easer said:
Now, these are my arguments, and really Joules (and sorry for the boomer style, but I did probably do serious photography before You were born....;- ), if You don't reckon/acknowledge the advantages of a highly enlarging 100% optical viewfinder, then we can't have a discussion, can we....? [...] And again, sorry for the slightly infantile style, but this is just me finally getting my frustrations out

I can understand the desire to just rent about your frustrations and I am certain that you are not alone with some of them. I also know this year in particular has both contributed much to anxiety and frustrations and also reduced the number of outlets for those. So there's nothing wrong with you expressing you views here, and if you just wrote them down to get these words out of your head or heart, don't take my following comments too serious. But I am replying to your arguments as statements to be taken at face value.

Also, I own a Pentax ME super, which has an amazing split viewfinder. It is far larger and brighter than the one from my 80D and even 1 series, as far as I am aware. There is a beauty to this, no doubt. But every tool has a time and a place, and the specific values of these depend on who you ask.

Also, please don't take offense from my Boomer comment, it was written in jest and not meant derogatory or as an insult. But you are basically asking for it with statements such as this:

Easer said:
With the 1D and 5D lines of cameras, You are basically market leaders, and You are throwing it all away, just to cater for teenagers who are used to use the screen on their phones

I highly doubt the target demographic for the R5 in particular, or the upcoming high resolution R and R1, is anywhere near teenage years. It simply takes a certain standing in life to afford these cameras, all of which will cost well above 4k when they come out. The switch to mirrorless and EVFs is motivated by the greater market over all. Smartphones may have contributed to the components such as high resolution OLED screens and high performance SoCs improving in quality and decreasing in cost, but they are far from the only reason EVFs are gaining popularity. And also, Smartphones are used across almost all demographics I believe.

Easer said:
DoF, I basically always shoot full open, so I got the DoF in my optical viewfinder [...] -And I take basically all my pictures at f/1.0/1.2/1.4, so I coulden't care less for "being able to see the actual DoF", I got thát in my optical viewfinder already

I am not sure you are aware, but in an OVF, you are not seeing the true DoF when using a fast lens. Instead, you are looking at what is effectively a stopped down view of the scene due to the micro lenses in the mirror assembly. Hence my comment that you may see a benefit when using a high quality EVF such as the R5's with fast glass.

Easer said:
IBIS, I don't care much for [...] The high FPS of the R5, I don't care for it [...] I'll seriously argue that more than pixels, ISO, dynamic range, ergonomics, screen and features, a really good optical viewfinder is what any skilled photographer need [...] I really looked forward to [...] a 50 mp 5D5 with a very nice ISO 6400, but blaaaaah

So, what is wrong with the 5Ds? Just that it is old? Sounds to me as if you were mostly interested in the higher resolution of the R5?

Easer said:
In my portraits I generally focus manually, in the way that I use AF to do the rough focusing, after which I focus by rocking back and forth a bit, that is by far the easiest and fastest and most efficient way of focusing in a portrait situation, with lenses such as 85L and 50L.

This again sounds to me as if you didn't try an R5 yet. Unless you are a true master at focussing manually, it is hard to believe that you can compete with these fast lenses used on said ILC. Have you seen the eye AF performance? It may not be your personally preferred way to AF, and that is fine. But claiming any form of manual AF is easier is a statement that you simply can't expect to hold true if you apply it to any large portions of the market.

Easer said:
And if there's one thing that I hate more than anything, then it is to have to fiddle with the camera while interesting things are going on, and no, I can't see myself swiching back and forth between eye-focus and normal focus

From what I understand, you can switch between these with the press of a single customized button. Is that too fiddly?

Easer said:
Cheap, it should be quite cheap to port the R5 to a 5D5, and a lot of dissapointed canon customers will find a 5D5 very welcome

Why would you expect it to be cheap? As I previously explained, the main features of the R5 can't be ported at all. Improving AF would either require using the 1DX III AF sensor (expensive), or developing a new one (expensive). And you would look at a greatly diminished customer numbers, as you split the 5 series customers between the 5D and R5, increasing cost for each.

Easer said:
I wonder what Nikon and Sony got to offer camera-wise, I will go and take a look at it right now....

Certainly no more DSLRs, lol. Sony went EVF even before they switched to mirrorless, and I doubt Nikon has the economic capacity to supply anything but the most lucrative market segments. But they do have the D850, which at least matches the R5 in resolution and mostly in IQ.

Easer said:
I really looked forward to [...] a 50 mp 5D5 with a very nice ISO 6400, but blaaaaah, it was a fullframe point and shoot camera quite possibly replacing the 5D line of cameras.

Not sure if you are joking, but calling the R5 a point and shoot camera casts doubt with regard to your previous claims of experience with cameras

Fischer · Nov 2, 2020

Nemorino said:
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Wow, just noticed how ugly it will look when you put on the shade. No wonder Canon is not showing us this.

SumanV · Nov 2, 2020

CanonFanBoy said:
That was the best way for me. I have mine set on red. My eyes are really bad. 20/300 in one eye and 20/400 in the other. Corrected with glasses, but still not too good.

Thank you for the clarification, @CanonFanBoy. Would glasses help with your seeing? If so, you may try 10x liveview magnification as it is another way to ensure accurate focus. Focus peaking may not be accurate sometimes. Apart from that wonderful photo once again.

Regards
Suman

Thomas colbert · Nov 1, 2020

Ok I ordered locally back in early September and still waiting.

Mt Spokane Photography · Nov 1, 2020

YuengLinger said:
Has anybody found a way to show the MENU first thing when the MENU button is pushed? Mine goes first to the INFO screen, and then I need to push the MENU button a second time to get to MENU. Note: This happens when the camera has timed out after being inactive--and it happens often because I mostly have ECO mode on.

I usually turn my camera off to avoid the wi-fi using battery but I'll let it sleep and see. I half press the shutter button to wake it and its in shooting mode with the info overlay showing as I set it. I'd expect that pressing other buttons to wake it will have the same result. I just tried pressing Q and it woke the camera to the shooting mode.

I let it sleep again and pressed the menu button and it opened in shooting mode. I doubt if there is a setting to open a sleeping camera in other than shooting mode.

GARN911 · Nov 1, 2020

I received the RF 85mm last friday so its here! Have not taken any shots yet but will today.

SteveC · Oct 31, 2020

Mt Spokane Photography said:
I also shoot my rifle right handed using my right eye and can bat at baseball right or left handed equally well.

Rifles, IMHO, are designed such that you'd better shoot them with your good eye (and you indicate your right eye is better) if you've got a marked difference between the two, *regardless* of which is your "on" or strong hand. If you're cross dominant, just deal with gently squeezing the trigger with your off hand. That doesn't take huge dexterity unless you're completely spastic with the off hand, nor does it take great strength. (Such is not necessarily true of pistol, but it's also a lot easier to shoot with one eye and the opposite hand, too.)

Canon Rumors · Oct 31, 2020

Adorama has the Flashpoint eVOLV 200 TTL Pocket Flash Dual Head Pro Kit as their Deal of the Day for $509 (Reg $730).

Key Features

Number of Heads: Includes 2 Head
Total Watt Seconds: 200ws
TTL Compatibility: TTL Monolight
Power Type: DC
Series: Flashpoint R2 (XPLOR) Series

What’s in the box:

2x AD200 TTL Pocket Flash Kits
2x H200 Speedlight Flash Heads
2x Bare Bulb Flash Heads
2x Flash Tubes
2x Lithium-Ion Battery Pack for AD200 Pocket Flash (14.4V. 2900mAh)
2x Charger and Cables
2x AD-E Holders (Stand Mount)
2x Barndoor Kit with 4 Color Gels for AD200 Speedlight Heads
1x eVOLV Twin Head
2x Silicone Skin for eVOLV 200 Pocket Flash

Flashpoint eVOLV 200 TTL Pocket Flash Dual Head Pro Kit $509 (Reg $730)

Sporgon · Oct 30, 2020

dick ranez said:
If you're changing systems and "have to have" an APS-C solution, Fuji is a way better choice.

Not if you want a SLR

Sporgon · Oct 30, 2020

Evertking said:
Ok, I am in the process of returning the camera. It was purchased off of eBay. This is my first time using eBay and not sure how returns are handled. I'm sure it should go good, I hope. I will buy another another, I love the camera.

Probably best thing to do. There seem to be loads of good ones out there. Personally I’d be inclined to try and get a mint one that doesn’t have the HS pack. It will most probably have had an easier life.

StandardLumen · Oct 30, 2020

I think this camera looks great, and I'll definitely be buying one... If it happens to be 67% off on Black Friday.

Bert63 · Oct 29, 2020

Doubtful any time soon. I used to use Vello until I bought my first Canon grip and now I won’t buy anything else. They are worth the money.

Vello still doesn’t have a grip for the EOS-R but they do have one for the RP.

Joules · Oct 29, 2020

xps said:
The 1.4x extender is on my whishlist 280mm f3.5 would be interesting...

But... you can't use the extenders on the Canon RF 70-200 mm 2.8. Or were you talking about the Nikon?

scottburgess · Oct 29, 2020

So does anyone have experience with using something like a Zeiss Softar II 52mm filter with the screw-in filter holder for any of the big white lenses? How about star filters? I'm wondering if the positioning of this sort of filter so far back toward the rear of the lens alters how such filters behave.

Mt Spokane Photography · Oct 29, 2020

It is always possible that a individual camera needs adjusting. You can contact Canon to see what they say.

I always need to adjust white balance, no matter what the camera for indoor and flash shots. AWB is good in outdoor sunlight but I like it warmer than what I get with flash. I think a lot of it is personal preference and calibration of the monitor.