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Jan 30, 2020

Regarding the RP on high ISO: I also noticed more color noise creeping in above 3200, noticeable on skin tones. Disappointing TBH, as this is a worse performance than the 5D4. Reminds me of my old 5D3 which was similar.

Noise pattern I think is ok though. Frankly I don’t think the 5D4 is that great in this particular realm. Blotchiness is an issue from time to time.

Yaba · Jan 30, 2020

Hope it well have a real, dedicated control ring and not such a stupid mode switch, where you have to switch the focus ring between control and focus.

Jack Douglas · Jan 30, 2020

Pixel said:
A little background on PRM for those not in the know.
(Taken from his Canon Explorer of Light bio)

"Peter Read Miller has been photographing athletes, events and the sporting life for more than 40 years. He has worked as a staff and contract photographer for Sports Illustrated for more than 35 years. His images have appeared on over 100 Sports Illustrated covers.
His editorial clients have included: TIME, LIFE, People, Money, The Associated Press, Playboy, Runner's World, Newsweek, USA Weekend and The New York Times. In addition to covering 9 Olympic Games and 38 Super Bowls, Peter has shot 14 NBA Finals. He has covered the Stanley Cup Finals, the World Series, the Kentucky Derby, the NCAA Basketball Final Four, and the Men's and Women's World Cup Soccer Finals.
Peter has been teaching Sports Photography workshops for over 15 years at locations including Denver, Atlanta, Phoenix, Santa Clara, Knoxville and Honolulu.
Peter has spoken at the Los Angeles Chapter of the Advertising Photographers of America, Photoshop World, Imaging USA, CES and PDN's Photo Plus East. He has also lectured at numerous colleges, universities and professional photographic organizations.
Peter and his work has been the subject of articles in Photo District News, American Photographer, Digital Photo Pro, Rangefinder Magazine and Shutterbug.
Peter is the 2006 winner of The Dave Boss Award of Excellence Photographer of the Year awarded by The Pro Football Hall of Fame. He is a member of Canon's Explorers of Light program. Peter is also the winner of the Society of Professional Journalists 2012 Award for Sports Photography.
Peter's book "Peter Read Miller on Sports Photography" is currently available from New Riders Press. Peter's advertising clients have included Canon, Nike, Microsoft, Western Digital, Adidas, Visa, Coca-Cola, Footlocker, ABC Television, Panasonic, and The National Football League."

A good reminder to myself to keep my mouth shut when I don't know what I'm talking about.

Seldom does putting someone down, elevate one's self and I can't think of a better example than this one - wow.

Jack

beachcolonist · Jan 29, 2020

Del Paso said:
Results obtained with the Monochrome prove you're absolutely wrong!
Go and test the Leica Monochrome and you'll see...

I cannot be "wrong" because I'm simply stating a fact not an opinion. Why do you think color filters are used for b/w film photography?

Del Paso said:
Results obtained with the Monochrome prove you're absolutely wrong!
Go and test the Leica Monochrome and you'll see...

No, they do not. All you post proves is that you cannot read for content.

Click · Jan 29, 2020

Thanks for the link. Great shots!

KarstenReis · Jan 29, 2020

Viggo said:
I might be wrong, but perhaps it was a DPReview, one of the videos where they at least said it was the sort of sensor that was not limited to a finger, but would have no issues with gloves. Which in fact would be the only way to do it, making it non-responsive with gloves on a 1-series would be a fail of epic proportion. A lot of us don’t exactly live in California

Kit Lens Jockey said:
No I didn't think to try it with gloves, sorry. But if it is truly an optical sensor, I'm almost sure it would work with gloves, because the sensor would not care if it's a finger or a glove that it's tracking, optically.

I can't imagine that they wouldn't have tested it without someone using gloves but never heard anything from Canon directly or in any of the previews showing someone wearing gloves. I shoot 99.9% outdoors and a larger portion of when I shoot is in colder weather and wear gloves. Fingers crossed.

animalsbybarry · Jan 29, 2020

RGB49 said:
Hi sclick, I have recently purchased one and so far am pleased with it. i use it with the 600 F4 MK3 and once clamped it is good to use, although it is a bit fiddly to balance it all whilst clamping, I have a RRS replacement foot which keeps the lens close to the monopod so less tipping effect. One point to notice the base width fitting is quite small to help keep the lens close to the monopod and I originally had an RRS lever clamp to speed up the assembly but the width of this clashed with either lens end or the other depending how it was fitted. so I have now replaced the RRS lever clamp with a 50mm Arca swiss clamp which gives more space at both ends. Also carrying a large lens mounted on it your shoulder is a lot easier than with a full gimbal head.

RGB49 said:
Hi sclick, I have recently purchased one and so far am pleased with it. i use it with the 600 F4 MK3 and once clamped it is good to use, although it is a bit fiddly to balance it all whilst clamping, I have a RRS replacement foot which keeps the lens close to the monopod so less tipping effect. One point to notice the base width fitting is quite small to help keep the lens close to the monopod and I originally had an RRS lever clamp to speed up the assembly but the width of this clashed with either lens end or the other depending how it was fitted. so I have now replaced the RRS lever clamp with a 50mm Arca swiss clamp which gives more space at both ends. Also carrying a large lens mounted on it your shoulder is a lot easier than with a full gimbal head.
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To mount and balance put your camera down anywhere safe.

Attach you folded monopod with MonoGimbal to the Lens.
Lift the rig a few inches from the Monopod to check balance.
Put camera down and adjust balance point
When rig is balanced extent your monopod and start using.
This is the easiest method to set it up.

Chaitanya · Jan 29, 2020

Otara said:
Some lenses are popular and need specific ports, most dont. The issue isn't the length changing its where the focus is on the barrel vs the focus adapter's available from the particular manufacturer. My main one is a Nauticam so should be doable unless something very surprising is involved.

60mm Macro that Venus sells for crop sensored SLR has a working distance of 4cms and given this lens has been designed from ground up for crop MILC working distance might be better than 60mm Macro. I can understand the need of having right sized housing with mfd beyond the front glass of housing. I wasnt sure before if there are generic housing available and if so is it possible to operate a MF lens with manual aperture or do divers determine the aperutre before hand.

maves · Jan 28, 2020

I'm actually super happy with the EOS R. Coming from the 5Diii I had mainly thought it would be good to use all of my vintage glass on, but like others here it quickly became my go to, even for my paid work. At first hated the Touch Bar, but have also come to love it, I really hope they don't ditch it, my only complaint with it is that I sometimes swipe it inadvertently while turning the mode dial. But I have it set up as swipe to zoom in, so it's not like I'm changing a critical setting.

SecureGSM · Jan 28, 2020

DreDaze said:
I'd say it's close to the nikon:

Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 DG OS HSM Sports Lens Image Quality

View the image quality delivered by the Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 DG OS HSM Sports Lens using ISO 12233 Resolution Chart lab test results. Compare the image quality of this lens with other lenses.

www.the-digital-picture.com

Yeah, Nuh

. At 300mm end Sigma is a descent but not a spectacular lens. Very good AF by the way. But, shhhh. Do not tell Sigma that they sell this lens way to cheap

tron · Jan 28, 2020

koenkooi said:
Canon showed a 400DO and a 600DO during the Canon expo a few years back, but went really silent about them soon after: https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-ef-600mm-f4-do-br-at-canon-expo/

Yes I remember this. But it weighted just like the new 600III so the only advantage would be the size. For me the size is equally important but maybe this will not happen now. The 400DOII is more than good enough (In fact it is very very good so there is no need for update).

stevelee · Jan 27, 2020

slclick said:
Well, I can make a good (not great) photo with a cardboard box, gaffers tape, tin foil, a tiny hole and some Ilford paper.On top of it it's a whole lot more enjoyable than clicking on a button full of electronics and a keyboard. Now, do I do it very often? No. I like to spread the love around though. Like Canon offering different bodies for different strokes.

When I was a kid, I made pictures with a Kodak Brownie and made contact prints. The prints were small, but the tones were gorgeous, better than I ever could get with enlarger paper.

Michael Clark · Jan 27, 2020

dolina said:
I am talking about R&D and not production. Production will continue at a volume that the market can bare.

I find it amusing people hold on to hope that Canon will some day in the future restart R&D for EF lenses.

It ain't gonna happen.

Still camera market has been in decline for over a decade and whatever little money they have to invest is best spent on a growing market segment rather than a shrinking one.

I could imagine people having this sort of discussion when the EF mount was announced in the early 80s. A lot of people in denial...

"Autofocus is not reliable!" etc etc.

Resources will prioritize RF mount products.

It was in 1987. That's not exactly "early '80s"

The difference between then and now was that FD could not be adapted to EF without what is essentially a teleconverter and loss of IQ and max aperture. Not to mention that FD had no AF and EF does.

EF, on the other hand, can be seamlessly used on RF cameras with no loss in IQ or max aperture or AF functionality. Zero.

Canon Rumors · Jan 27, 2020

The Canon USA store has refurbished Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS III USM lenses in stock for $1519 (Reg $1799). These lenses come with a full 1-year Canon USA warranty.
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS III USM $1519 (Reg $1799)

epic.one · Jan 27, 2020

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unfocused said:
Thanks @canonnews.

One thing I did find interesting is that after being #2 in lenses for the past three years, Sigma fell off the radar this year. I'm guessing a couple of reasons could be that they really didn't release any blockbusters this year (the 60-600mm not generating the excitement of the earlier superzooms) and the new mounts by Canon and Nikon may have limited their sales.

It's too bad they don't distinguish between crop and full frame (at least it doesn't appear to me that they do). I would imagine that Canon's crop sensor mirrorless accounts for a high percentage of total mirrorless sales (just as crop sensors account for the bulk of DSLR sales).

All in all, good on Canon.

I think Sigma is a victim of their own success. The people who wanted their lenses already have them.
This of course means they will start a line for RF and Z mounts any day now.

Michael Clark · Jan 27, 2020

SecureGSM said:
Images shot at ISO 6400 with your 5D Mark II were just a little bit over your noise cliff
I am uncomfortable with noise levels of 5D III anywhere over ISO 4000. I do not underexpose images, do not push shadows by more that 1/3 stop typically.

lets see:

Photographic Dynamic Range versus ISO Setting

Camera Model Low Light
ISO

Canon EOS 5D Mark II 3123 - no experience.

Canon EOS 5D Mark III 3652 - true to my experience

Canon EOS 6D 4070 - true to my experience

Canon EOS 1D X Mark II 5189 - true to my experience

Canon EOS 5D Mark IV 5011- true to my experience

ISO 4000 is one of the +1/3 stop ISO settings and is noisier than ISO 6400. Do some research into how Canon sensors from around 2006 until at least the 80D handles +1/3 stop and -1/3 stop ISo settings.

SteveC · Jan 26, 2020

Sporgon said:
Oh hell, I was just going to say backlit buttons won't help me much because I press the wrong ones in broad daylight

I seem to be very good at subconsciously regrding the button with the red dot on it as a power button, but only on my Lummox point and shoot, where the power button (the correct one) is actually a button rather than a lever like on my Canon ILCs.

Del Paso · Jan 26, 2020

bluenoser1993 said:
Does third party grip for the R exist? I haven’t found one.

A grip exists, made by Meike.
It's kind of an "extension", mounted underneath the body, but NO battery-grip!

drama · Jan 26, 2020

privatebydesign said:
That is so easy for you to say but you don't walk in my shoes!

I have used 1 series cameras since the 1V, I have nearly 20 years of form factor and muscle memory invested in the 1 series.

Ah! So you're lazy. I understand. Same ecosystem, same menu system... but no. "20 years of muscle memory" indeed!

privatebydesign said:
Now should I be using a 5DS/r ? maybe, but that won't give me the reliability, durability, functionality or speed I am used to, so my trade off is not simply MP's,

Yes, and yes they will. The weather sealing is excellent, the functionality as discussed is what you actually need, and as you've yet to define what you need high speed large megapixel images of, no-one can help you there.
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privatebydesign said:
No, your blanket statement falls very flat in my world.

The irony is incredible. Your arguments for not moving to a more useful camera are non-existent, meaning you likely just want to feel important with your 1 Series, or are making much of this up to sound big online. Either way, it's ridiculous. Good luck.

Michael Clark · Jan 25, 2020

sulla said:
Yea, with a front protective filter I consider my 16-35 an "internal zoom lens".

With a front protective filter I consider my EF 17-40mm f/4 L a "flare/ghosting monster." It's bad enough in that respect even with no filter.

But then I use it under the lights at night for wide angle shots of sports. I've shot with it in moderate rain with no filter and no ill effects. (I rarely have the pretty much useless hood for it with me, though I never use any of my other zoom lenses without a hood.)

Canon Rumors · Jan 25, 2020

SIGMA announces the shipment schedule for SIGMA CINE LENS /i Technology-compatible PL mount lens in the FF High-Speed Prime Line.

Shipment schedule: February 2020

Optimized for large-format camera systems and 8K shooting, the FF High-Speed Prime Line lenses deliver stunning image quality in compact construction. A new addition to this prime lens lineup comes with electronic contacts that support Cooke’s /i Technology communication protocol for Art Prime PL mount lenses. By using an /i Technology-compatible cine lens with a cine camera that supports the same protocol, users can see and record lens metadata such as focus distance, focal length, and aperture. This helps streamline compositing in the post-production process. This is particularly suitable for the latest forms of filmmaking, such as VFX, that call for detailed shooting data. Prototypes of this /i Technology-compatible FF High-Speed Prime lens were used for shooting “Top Gun: Maverick”, scheduled to be released in 2020...

SteveC · Jan 25, 2020

Don Haines said:
But if you do that, and see that 90 percent of the cameras are Canon, isn’t that proof that Canon is doomed?

After all, it's not 99%...and if it were 99% it wouldn't be a hundred percent, therefore...Canon. Is. Doomed.

Jack Douglas · Jan 25, 2020

What is it about human nature that seems to come into play so often, and certainly in gear oriented forums? What stands out for me is the tendency to focus on my needs, to pontificate about how important my opinions are. Perhaps, it's ego, given that a forum thread is like a grandstand where I can demonstrate (supposedly) how smart I am and how important I am.

Consider this, what if we were now having to stand before an audience of say 200 people in an auditorium to give our little talk, which would be followed by a question and answer period where the various experts in our field were going to question us.

What's different in this scenario?

Jack

Sleeplessin · Jan 24, 2020

Del Paso said:
Really impressive!

Thank you

Jan 23, 2020

I use mode 2 on a monopod for perched birds (with my 600/4 II, but the principles are the same).

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