Gotta love Canon, because my DX2 PCB board failed and no data etc could be extracted, what they did was upload another (in for repair dx2's) data , hence i now have approx 278 thousand shutter count, anyway with alot of apologies from Canon / CPS they are sending a courier to collect it, and they will get it back to around 24K not 278K.

Chaitanya said:

Keith Cooper(EF mount) and Richard Wong(Nikon F mount) have already posted their reviews on their respective websites. It certainly seems like Venus Laowa has filled another niche for small group of photographers.

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I’m glad they are! If Canon produced an 100mm MP-E that went from infinity to 3.5x, that would be my perfect lens. It’d be monstrous, but I’d pay top dollar for something like that.

unfocused said:

Could this have something to do with Canon not wanting beginners to fry their camera's using old strobes?

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They would need to use really old strobes - at least 20+ years old - many of them using a sync cable, not the hotshoe (the Vivitar 283 one of the notable exceptions). It could have been a real problem years ago. It is true people could still find old units on eBay or the like, but I wonder why they took this decision now, and not 15 years ago, for example.

Maybe they are selling more now on markets where very old units are more common, but I've a feeling it's more to protect Canon business from cheaper units than consumers from high-voltage units.

Well, you knew going in that there were few lenses, and that many lenses would need the adapter for quite some time. And you also must realize that many lenses will never be available in EF mount. Even the RF lenses with the same general specification (ie 24-105/4.0 or 50/1.2) are significant improvements over the EF designs due to the nature of the RF mount flexibility.

The question is - why use the R, with adapted lenses? Because its a great camera. Because its metering down to just about no light whatsoever is fantastic.... despite your "problems" with it. Focus in poor light is faster. The viewfinder is better in low light too. You get all sorts of information in the EVF if you want it. Because it can shoot silently. Because it tracks in servo very very well. Because you can use EF, EF-S or RF lenses on it. Because RF lenses all have the extra control ring - which you can also get for EF lenses with the right adapter.

There are a lot of rumors about the 7D-series, and these are spread over several threads on the board. That makes it difficult to assess the developments regarding the 7D-series. But every time again, there appear to be many that want to see a “worthy” successor for their 7D Mk II - by Canon.

A brief historic overview of the rumors/information about the 7D Mk II over the last one and a half years shows there is a tendency in the rumors about the 7D-series’ future.

1. In the second half of 2017 there was a rumor that the 7D Mk III would come early 2018.
2. In November, 2018 there suddenly was the rumor that Canon had scrapped the development of an “unnamed high-end DSLR”. This was vague enough that the wishful thinkers could hope this would not be the 7D Mk III. But on the other hand it was a clear signal something was changing drastically.
3. Suddenly, in early 2018 there was this rumor: no 7D Mk III before Q4 of 2018, perhaps even later. Nothing more.
4. Halfway into 2018 the rumors came that the 7D Mk III, and all “prosumer cameras” would get elaborate video functions (which is peculiar for a camera mainly aimed for action stills) and that it would arrive between the end of 2018 and early 2019. Also, an “accelerated product development cycle” was mentioned. This seems to point towards a change where to ‘position’ the successor to the 7D Mk II.
5. Early 2019: the rumor that the successor for the 80D and for the 7D Mk II will be “amalgamated” surfaces. This was a first, yet vague, clue that Canon could end the 7D-series.
6. April 2019: the rumor that the 7D MK II is the last in the “7D”-series, although the rumor is not specific to it being APS-C or FF. It is also rumored that the 7D will be succeeded by a mirrorless body. This suggests the end of the 7D-series.
7. May 2019: the rumor that 2 APS-C 32,5MP cameras have been offered for certification (Code Names K437 and DS126801). The 32.5 MP seem extremely high for a high fps (10fps – or more?) action camera; a general-purpose “90D” is more likely.

The rumors about the successor for the 7D Mk II slowly, but clearly evolve in the direction that there will be no DSLR to replace the 7D Mk II with a camera that improves on the 7D Mk II.

With predictions for ILC sales being what they are (i.e. declining), scrapping the 7D-series is no strange decision from Canon’s perspective. In the near future with diminishing sales numbers for ILCs, the bigger margins in FF may become more appealing than a large market share in a specialized, less profitable segment such as APS-C action-DSLRs.

But on the other hand Canon would not want to alienate the 7D-series users, let alone anger them.
Canon will want to control the information flow in an orchestrated attempt (1) to manage their decisions in this matter and (2) at the same time influence the market and customer perception.

Conclusion:
A. The rumors, over time, show that it is unlikely that the 7D Mk II will have a successor in the form of an APS-C DSLR.
B. The “DS126801” will probably just be the “90D” – meaning a capable general purpose APS-C DSLR, probably with many great video features.
C. There is only a slim chance that the “DS126801” turns out to be a ‘worthy’ replacement for the 7D Mk II, it would be an uncharacteristic leap for Canon if the 32,5 MP sensor is for real.
D. Canon has an interest to be not too specific too early about their plans with the APS-C line in general, and the 7D-series in particular.

CanonFanBoy said:

Great lens you bought!

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Yes, it should be, mine has issues and the seller wasn’t willing to admit or solve anything so it’s just sitting in the box waiting for my report to go through, 12-15 weeks, before it’s resolved. Not too happy about that

Wormaap said:

First of all: thanks for all the input so far! The body is at 400k clicks and lacks some paint but otherwise looks good. Price is at about a third of the regular going price for a used 1DXmk1 and it's getting a checkup by the store. I'll even get some warranty on everything but the shutter. So for argument's sake, let's assume it'll function as it should. My main interest is in whether or not I'll want to use it. I'll keep the 80D, by the way!

My main concern is with IQ and reach. I'll be losing reach twice, both in the crop factor and in the loss of cropping room by going from 24MP to 18MP. On the other hand, my 24-70 will become more useful/versatile.
In terms of IQ, I have very little to go by. DXOMark appears to prefer the 80D sensor for all but high-ISO, but I'd need to get out there and shoot it for a few days to know whether or not I got what I need.

Main question for IQ is (in my mind, but I'm open to suggestions!): will the fact that the 1DX has a FF-sensor outweigh the fact that it's older and lacks resolution?

My stuff goes all over the place. I love hanging out at the zoo, shooting animal portraits. But I also shoot parties. I have a little studio setup at home and have shot the occasional wedding. Not big on landscape, but that's mainly because I suck at it! I've attached a few pics I shot with the 80D to give an impression.

Would the low-light AF speed and accuracy of the 1DX be better than my 80D? I do get lots of missed shots during parties because the AF simply doesn't manage. I now use the focust assist beam on my flash, but I much prefer using Servo AF with dancers, as they tend to move around quite a bit

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Currently I use a 1DX and 7D2 and the longest lenses I can get my hands on! Currently a Canon 800 F5.6 L IS and I still want more. The APSC sensor offers a "perceived" advantage - but only in the very best conditions + there is the significantly better AF on the 1DX compared to anything except a 1DX2.

Lets put it this way My 1DX is 5 1/2 years old and the 7D2 about a year younger yet the 1DX has more that 10 times the actuation's on it - guess which I think is the better camera? As to the 80D? Nice camera but the AF is just not up to what I need - great for most users though.

degos said:

At this rate there's going to be a huge gulf between Canon's EOS-M lenses and RF lenses. Which manufacturer will fill the gap? Seems with Canon's obsession with $3000 perfection there's a gap for Tamron to get in with 1.8 VC lenses at reasonable ( e.g. affordable by average wedding shooter ) prices.

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Just like the gulf between M and L... only bigger. Canon will fill the gap, eventually, with non-L, RF lenses... along with others, I think.

jeanluc said:

If you are set on a DSLR, get the 5D4. As stated above, it is a major upgrade from the 5d3. Personally, I would just get an R. It will take very little time to get used to it, and you will love it.

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Thanks for your comments and thoughts jeanluc

Not the 2.8, but I've got the 300/4 non-is, which I bought new in the mid 90's.... once I had the defective filter off it, it worked fine on the R. As also does my newer 300/4 IS. Both work great on EOS R or 5D2/5D3 bodies.

I'm only saying all this, because I seriously thought that Canon was having some sort of "unsupported lens" issue. It was not (in my case at least). The 300/4 non-IS doesn't make it to any sort of lens correction data list at all, never has. I guess they just didn't make/sell too many. For the 300/2.8.... If I recall, data is available for lens correction, so you might breath a bit easier on that.

...BUT... I will still note that a 50 megapixel Medium Format Sensor combined stills/video monster IS COMING .... rather soon!

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Put a bridle on thy tongue; set a guard before thy lips, lest the words of thine own mouth destroy thy peace... on much speaking cometh repentance, but in silence is safety.

William Drummond

We wrote up the original article on monday here;

https://www.canonnews.com/new-bcn-report-eos-rp-struggling-in-japan

then all hell broke loose.

So much so after reading (and responding some) to the dpreview madness, I had to write this up.

https://www.canonnews.com/the-bcn-eos-rp-and-a7-iii-report-a-follow-up

which of course won't be read nearly as much, but hey, it needed to be said.

I haven't even been able to make it work in the first place… I really feel dumb!

Dphotos said:

This reminds me of the executives at Kodak? They fail to understand what digital cameras would do.

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I wonder who was the one who invented this BS about Kodak.

transpo1 said:

Why would it turn heated? How long have you been on this forum? Some people really care about sales data here and use that as a shield against any criticism of their favorite camera company. As for me, I enjoy the discussion, heated or not

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LOL! Usually market share data are brought up when somebody says, "Canon is doomed." The same folks who say Sony is eating everyone's lunch. Market share figures aren't brought out as shields from the truth, but rather as Sony Fanboi Prophylactics.

Very nice!

I continue test my lens. I've read https://www.canonrumors.com/tech-articles/how-to-test-a-lens/ article about testing. I've never tested lenses before in this way. I haven't any good printed charts for it, but i've used infinity object to test. I have attached the results. As i can see on pictures left bottom edge more softly then others.




I've create more than 20 different test: infinity object, siemens stars on the wall, led test, brick walls.
I think i have problem in left side of lens.
Other interesting thing. I test the lens on 5DM4. Also I test lens on 650D, from same distance. And on crop camera image more sharp than on full frame. Note: on full frame F4.5, on crop 2.8:



What do you think about my results?

A pretty good thread until individuals of a certain ilk persist in the usual. Time to un-watch and not gives these individuals any audience.

Jack

Jack of all trades.......

Mbell75 said:

Keep dreaming. Maybe 2021 if you're lucky. Sony should have at least one well before the end of the year....

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they saying the a7siii isnt coming soon. but panasonic been had it for awhile now

Mbell75 said:

Is eye tracking anywhere close to Sony level yet? Does it work without having to be right on top of your subject?

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I tried with a 135mm yesterday and to my initial surprise I learned that eye af isn’t subject distance dependent, but how large the face is in the VF, so with the 135 I had eye AF at several meters away

unfocused said:

1. To those who say it's not a professional tool, I disagree. It's different, but it's closer to professional than I expected.
2. I'm going to hate sending it back and already trying to justify buying one. I'll be watching the prices and fully expect to yield within the next six months.

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I'm fighting the trend to think the same regarding wanting a second one. I try to not duplicate bodies.... so I think by the time the "next R" comes along, the 5D3 will have served its last... but who knows... might just want to keep a mirror body around too.

Thanks for posting back an update FTb-n. I assume that the adjustments have made a noticeable difference? Are the two now similar colours?

Stoical.