neuroanatomist said:

Waiting is perfectly fine. I see no need to get the 1D X II, my 1D X meets my needs just fine. I did get an EOS R because it was a significant improvement in certain ways over my current gear:

• Much smaller than my 1D X
• FF sensor which my M6 lacks
• Ability to easily use an ND filter (adapter) with my TS-E 17 and 11-24 which are very challenging to front-filter

My main use for the EOS R will be travel.

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I am thinking about the R for travel too. So far, I don't see any lenses that strike my fancy, but the 24-105 comes close... At the moment there is not enough lens selection for me so it would end up with an adaptor for everything. Of the rumoured lenses to come soon, it is the 24-240 that gets me going. If it is reasonably good and at a reasonable price, I can see jumping in. As a one lens walk-about camera that has the ability to be an awesome pair.

Of course, all is speculation now, so I shall wait and see.

I wouldn't want to use a 7D series if light's an issue. If you can spring for a 5D4 (or 5D3) they would do much better, especially if you could then also make do with a fast prime.

We would like to announce that we have clarified compatibility in general operations(*1) of following Tamron Di & Di II lenses on Canon EOS RP, which was newly released on March 14, 2019, with Canon “Mount Adapter EF-EOS R”.
(*1) Defined to work on existing DSLR cameras
Compatible models (for Canon) for general operations (*2)

SP 15-30mm F/2.8 Di VC USD G2 (Model A041) for Canon
SP 24-70mm F/2.8 Di VC USD G2 (Model A032) for Canon
SP 70-200mm F/2.8 Di VC USD G2 (Model A025) for Canon
SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2 (Model A022) for Canon
SP 35mm F/1.8 Di VC USD (Model F012) for Canon
SP 45mm F/1.8 Di VC USD (Model F013) for Canon
SP 85mm F/1.8 Di VC USD (Model F016) for Canon
SP 90mm F/2.8 Di MACRO 1:1 VC USD (Model F017) for Canon
17-35mm F/2.8-4 Di OSD (Model A037) for Canon
70-210mm F/4 Di VC USD (Model A034) for Canon
100-400mm F/4.5-6.3 Di VC USD (Model A035) for Canon
10-24mm F/3.5-4.5 Di II VC HLD (Model B023) for Canon
18-400mm F/3.5-6.3 Di II VC HLD (Model B028) for...

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josephandrews222 said:

I imagine that most CR readers are as unsurprised by this rumor as I am (not so much).

Exciting times ahead for photographers who have learned to trust Canon, and enticing times ahead for all of us (some non-Canon shooters) who know how to use these wonderful tools.

As I've posted previously here, I've postponed my purchase of the 11-24 EF lens--I'm looking forward to what Canon offers in the R mount wide-angle 'version'.

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I was very much excited when I read a rumour about the development of a Canon RF 12-35mm f2.8L USM Lens along with some other wide angle lens on Canon Rumors a while ago but have heard nothing about it there after. Hope Canon will pay attention to this lens and surprise The pros. with its sudden announcement. A super wide Non Bulbous Lens like Nikon’s 14-30mm f4.
A better Super Wide lens in RF Range like 11-24mm f4 in EF Range.What do you or most Canon enthusiasts suggest or think.

Aussie shooter said:

I would definitely go the rp out of those two. As a compliment to my 7d2 it would make far more sense than another aps c body. And if i remember correctly from your past posts you shoot a 7d2 aswell.

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Thanks for the great advice !
I am aiming for the 1DX2 and another travel friendly option - EOS RP !~

I can't tell you if the RP overheats the sensor when used continuously, but if its not cold out, that's a real concern, because the sensor is running all the time. That is probably the biggest issue, power is easy.

I'd use a external power supply. I have a Case Relay which can be powered by AC or USB / USB Battery and will power any Canon DSLR (except 1 series) continuously. I used it with the appropriate adapter on my 5D MK IV, my EOS R, and SL-2. (The SL-2 adapter is the same one used for the RP).

If you are using a USB battery, the case relay contains a internal battery that keeps your camera working while you change USB batteries. What I like about it is that it can be used for any Canon DSLR except 1 series by changing the plug-IN adapter

neuroanatomist said:

What, in your opinion, is lacking from the EF-M lineup?

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The list goes on and on! From the get-go, Canon hasn't treated the M series lens line like a serious product. To date, there have been more M series bodies released than native lenses. Maybe I am misreading the M market - it certainly can do no wrong in Japan. I'm sure it is wishful thinking to hope for zoom lens options above kit-level quality. Yes, they're impressive optically. But they're slow as hell across the line. I would rather have the lens carrying some of the load in lower light situations than rely on faster ISOs and the problems that that introduces. Or maybe a native telephoto lens that goes beyond 200mm. The idea that, with an adapter, you can leverage the EF lens lineup is nice. But if you've ever tried to wrangle an M body around with a 100-400L on it, you know how awkward that can get. And truly - I bought my M50 for its size, and found out that it really didn't offer too many disadvantages over my old 70D on day to day shooting. But if I still have to drag around a big bag of lenses, what advantage am I really gaining from the small body?

The biggest glaring problem here is that the R series really reveals what Canon could be doing with the Ms if they wanted. Like most of their recent lens offerings, the RF lenses are impressive optically. But they've adapted to the size advantages of the mirrorless platform to make lenses that are smaller, or faster, or both. And they're continuing to develop it with the idea that people want native lenses. They've even developed a fairly robust - and sometimes surprisingly impressive - EF-S lens lineup for their APS-C DSLRs. Somehow, they didn't get the picture that people want lenses with the M platform, and that's a little bit baffling.

Thanks for sharing.

If Canon would make an EF-S 24/2 and 35/2, these would be usable

Gillettecavalcad3 said:

I signed up to Canon Rumors as I was awaiting the new big firmware update that Canon promised for the EOSR, ...turned out they quietly released a firmware update that didn't offer much.

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Presumably you mean v1.1.0 which came out in February. The v1.2.0 firmware (eyeAF, etc.) is due out next week, according to Canon Canada. See the front page of the site.

I'm betting 4/18.

jvillain said:

To bad there won't be a RF mount. ...

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You can use the ZE lenses with the RF adapter.
I suppose that Zeiss will bring native RF compatible lenses in future.
But I think that Zeiss is not yet in development, so it will need some time.

BeenThere said:

Without objective measurements it is difficult to distinguish resolution differences between two lens that are both extremely sharp. But check out the lenstip review site and compare the Otus 85mm with the 85mm Art. Very comparable resolution with a slight edge going to the Art lens. Again, this is not anything you would see when using either lens, but you certainly would see the price difference when purchasing. The edge in color and micro contrast does go to the Otus, but not big differences there either.

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I would posit that while the Sigma may slightly edge the Otus 85mm f1.4 in resolving (it is a much newer lens), and while it is a very good lens (especially for the price) it's overall rendering (total imaging 'prowess', if you will) will not match the Otus (for reasons already mentioned by another Poster). Although that rendering/'look' comes at a steep price premium.

LOL. Not sure about $55 for a nylon strap, but the monopod foot is reasonable. Maybe because it’s a ‘part’ not an ‘accessory’.

In the future we may have a version RF

BTW, I also tried DSLR controller on Android. It has almost no functionality with the R, and what does appear to work is infinitely slow.

HarryFilm said:

My suggest is to goto Duclos Lenses and get on their Cine-Mod program where you can get photographic lenses such as the SUPER SHARP Zeiss Otus or Sigma Arts series STILL photo lenses turned into real cinema housings which will fit on Super-35 systems (i.e. C200, C300mk2, etc).

CINE-MOD®

The Cine-Mod is a modification process developed by Duclos Lenses that improves Leica R, Zeiss, Contax, Nikon, Rokinon, and many more lenses in several ways, making them more useable for motion picture

www.ducloslenses.com

You supply the lenses for modding or you buy them already finished from Duclos. I actually believe that that when the Zeiss Otus lenses ($5000 per lens) are cine-modded that they are actually SHARPER than the Zeiss/Arri Master Primes (which much more expensive at $220,000 to $260,000 for a set!) You're getting ULTRA SHARP cinema glass in a package that $200,000+ cheaper! What a deal!

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I don’t really need any Cine modded lenses. I’m pretty happy with the lenses I have now: a set of CN-E primes and the 17-120. My comment wasn’t really about needing super sharp lenses, it was that Canon actually designed the Sumire’s to actually be “less sharp”, if you will.

And yes, I’ve heard that the Otus lenses are ridiculous. I’ve also had the Sigma Cine 105 T1.5 for a demo, which is based on the 105mm f/1.4 ART, I believe, and it’s another awesome lens.

There is no way that retrofocus ultrawides are going to be "small, fast, and light."

Very nice shot!

Man, the g5 is Canon's best PnS, and I really feel people overlook it (the g1xm3 is too soft, and not fast enough. Fail!). I shoot as a professional product photographer with a 5DSr, but street photography is my passion. While I own a 42mp full frame Sony rx1rm2 for street photography, it is my beloved g5 which usually hits the streets instead. Yes, i just said that: I prefer my g5 over my sony rx1m2 for MOST street shooting situations. Plus, the g5 can get stolen and I can replace it tmrw. Not so with the Sony. When I bought my g5, I had considered the rx100, but for me and my requirements the g5 was a seriously better camera than the rx100 and it had a 24-100 equiv instead of the Sony 24-70. The g5 fit me better.
BUT the g5 has MAJOR problems that they need to address:
-RAW continuous burst is 1 shot and then the buffer hangs. You get 1 RAW shot at full size RAW. 1! Takes another 3 seconds before you can snap another. So the camera DOES do its advertised 5fps, sure, but only in jpeg. In RAW it does .25fps. Or maybe .5fps. Pretty bad for a DIGIC 6. Canon often does things like this. Not cool.
-There is no picture style. I cannot shoot in black and white RAW, and I have to wait until I am processing to do what I need to do. This is a stupid move for a camera meant to be sold to novices but also draw in enthusiasts. It also makes focus peaking harder to use. Focus peaking plus monochrome equals win, but Canon has a hard time wrapping their minds around a STILL camera with focus peaking, etc. I guess Sony spoiled me with their features and customizability. Each company has their pros and cons, though, so cool down, fanboys of both.
-More custom buttons, more assignation options, please. Also, in-camera charging. Thanks!
-Make that viewfinder less obvious, as it hangs on my pocket. The camera looks worse than the new R. What a dreadfully fugly design. Who signed off on having giant 1" viewfinders on the g1xm3, g5x, and the new R? Flog and then fire that guy! Whoever came up with the flat RP VF design, give him a raise and let him design the whole body next time. Give me something INTERESTING-LOOKING as well as functional.
-Add threads to end of lens so I can put UV filters on it. This camera suffers greatly from UV haze/light problems. If you want to draw enthusiasts or pros to this small camera, then consider that we tend to use filters on our lenses. DUH!?!?!
Anyway, I love my g5x and it is likely I will take a hard look at the new model.

As for brand loyalty: I used to fawn over Canon and be loyal even down to peripherals, but the moment they released the boring-looking R with a 3-year old sensor, and a mount that required an adapter after they said they had a sexy solution that did not require an adapter, then to heck with brand loyalty. I have 5 EF L lenses which are now or in the next 5 years almost guaranteed to be obsolete, so, um, yeah, forget brand loyalty. What would be nice is if they offered a buyback service for all the people who bought into L and now feel betrayed. If I could I would love to dump all my L glass and re-invest into RF, and I wish Canon would start a program to help with this. (For now, though, I am sworn off all ILC's, and just shooting with fixed lens cameras.) I mean, these companies do not care about you to the point where they lobby the government to enact laws that favor their profits over your well-being, so why be loyal?

Hi d.o.k!
Welcome to CR and thank you for sharing.

Achoo! Oh, I can feel the pollen! *sigh

Joke aside:
Really nice pictures, guys.

neuroanatomist said:

That’s exactly the problem described – increased color cast at high density settings.

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Yes I saw that. I use a B+W and although the cast is fairly consistent through most of the range it does shift a bit when you approach full density. I’m generally working within a range of a stop or two for video and rarely use it at full density so for me it works fine. I’ve seen others that shift quite a bit in the middle of the range which I’d avoid for video. I haven’t used the adaptor version so I can’t say exactly how bad the shift is. I can say it’s managble with the B+W that I use despite a noticeable shift at high density.
Reasonably vs perfectly consistent. Perfectly consistent is going to be unreasonably expensive.

Very informative review indeed, thanks a lot!