Canon Inc. Releases Q3 Results for 2017

unfocused said:
On a personal note, I'm kind of rooting against the 6DII for purely selfish reasons. I'd like to get a second full-frame body and the sooner the price drops and the Canon store starts carrying refurbs the better.

LOL. I love it. "Oh Camera Gods, I beseech thee, let the 6DII perform poorly, that I may buy one cheaper!" ;D

I do agree that the language used about 6DII was as unspecific as it gets, though it's pretty much par for the course.

A hypothetical that is interesting, though is, if 6DII underperformed what overperformed to make up the difference? Surely not 7DII. 5DIV? That would be amazing. 80D? 77D? Rebels?
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Canon posts significant increase in sales and profit for Q3 2017

Maximilian said:
Talys said:
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Really? Their smartphone business is doing better? I'm astonished, as I cannot recall seeing a Sony smartphone anywhere other than a Sony Store in eons.
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Hi Talys!

I think I've understood something wrong here.
It's the general smartphone business, that's doing better. And the smartphones are one of the biggest customers of Sony imaging sensors.
Conclusion: good smartphone sales -> good Sony sensor sales -> profit for Sony

Aha! You are absolutely right! I get it now :)

Thanks!
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60mm Macro lens equivalent for Full Frame

OK, so my next test of the camera was to try a time lapse movie (still irrelevant to the thread), and I realized that since darkness was approaching, I would have willing subjects at the bird feeder. So I finally put the 75-300mm lens on (and took off the eclipse filter), zoomed to maybe 175mm, and started the shoot at 6:15pm EDT.

I set the interval to three seconds, resolution to 4K, and auto exposure for each shot (since it would be getting dark). I let it shoot for 45 minutes.

In editing I cropped a bit, but did include the part of the feeder on the right that I had accidentally included in the frame, since birds went there, too. I slowed the result to 1/10 speed and posted to YouTube a 1080p result.

https://youtu.be/fZ-qQbVpEqA

A small bird or two start it off, and then the cardinals move in, with the main action starting around 1:40.
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A Major New Cinema EOS Product Coming for NAB 2018

transpo1 said:
cayenne said:
CanonGrunt said:
transpo1 said:
cayenne said:
I wonder what a Canon anamorphic lens would look like....and how much it would cost?

A lot.

Probably double that...
But, what would the lens be? What focal length(s)?

Is there such a thing as a zoom anamorphic lens?

And a real noob question...why would it have to be so $$$ to make an anamorphic lens?

What is so special about them that makes them so pricey?

C

The glass makes them expensive. The novelty will make them expensive. And the uplift for the Canon name will make them even more expensive ;)

LOL...

Well, lessee.....sure, the Canon name will increase the price on an anamorphic lens(es).

But as far as class, is what makes making anamorphic glass more expensive than any other lens? Same glass as a substance, and likely same type coatings, no?

And sure,it will be a bit of a niche lens, but then again, I'd argue that other lenses out there are somewhat niche, a bit expensive, but not $24K expensive....take T/S lenses. I'd have to guess they aren't racking up huge numbers of sales when viewed in context of all other lenses, or even just other "L" lenses Canon sells, but they are not out of reach of most photographers.

I've been playing around with anamorphic....I have the Anamorpot adapter that is fun, but a bit of a PITA when changing host lenses, etc.

I found the moondog labs adapter for iPhones is a neat little unit that seems to work pretty well.....

So, it is really fun for video and I think more folks would shoot with it if it were more of a regular configuration lens for regular DSLR's, and not priced into the stratosphere....

Hoping a Canon one would be reasonable, as far as a "L" lens can be reasonable...hahaha.

Also...can a zoom anamorphic lens be made, so that you wouldn't have to buy multiple ones for different focal lengths, especially when just starting out.

cayenne
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Sigma 18-35mm Used Price

Be careful with "what you've heard", especially repeating it. Fact is that when people are content with a product they rarely seek out places to talk about it, but when people have a negative experience they'll go out of their way to make sure everybody hears of it. I'm sure we've all been guilty of doing this at some point; I know I have. Whether it's a lens, a body, a tripod, a computer, phone, car, TV, food, movie, song, whatever, people are always quicker to shout about how much they thought something sucked while if it worked out well for them they just get on and keep using it.

For what it's worth, with this 18-35 lens specifically, I know from talking with local store owners that it is still one of the best-selling zooms available for any system, and if bad copies were that common they'd have a hell of a lot more returns and trade-ins than they do.
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Tamron 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 Di VC USD Available for Preorder on October 26?

bsbeamer said:
Wish they'd include a built-in teleconverter on some of these longer 3rd party zoom lenses.
If you want the price to go up by 2-3x, sure.

The mark I Canon 100-400 isn't very good. The Sigma and Tamron 150-600s which retail for around the same price point are categorically better, and if it's the long range you're concerned about (i.e. you're mostly looking at that 400mm end) then the old Canon 400mm f/5.6 is so much sharper than the Canon 100-400 mkI that you can afford to simply upres it to the equivalent of 500mm+ and still get a sharper, clearer image than the 100-400 simply at 400. You give up IS for that, but given the kinds of shutter speeds you usually use for the sort of subjects these lenses are used with—sports, wildlife—IS is of limited value anyway.

Khufu said:
I played around with a Tamron >300mm zoom a few years ago with the idea of it maybe being usable for video; whilst engaged the IS/VC held for a second or so at a time then jumped, held, jumped... totally unusable for video (unless purely to document, rather than have smooth footage)
Does anyone have any insight into how the current Tamron and Sigma lenses' IS/VC/OS behaves, and is there a name for this above-mentioned behaviour?!
Tamron's is far, far better than it used to be, and in many cases better than Canon's. It's quieter and smoother, though in the most extreme cases that does appear to come at the cost of some effectiveness. In my experience, I'll get about an extra half stop of stabilisation out of Canon compared to (new) Tamron; YMMV depending on how good you are at holding the camera still yourself and just how far you expect to be able to stress the system. I rarely need more than a stop and a half of stabilisation anyway, so both do me just fine, and given the Tamrons are quieter and a touch smoother, they're currently the IS system I favour. Bear in mind the Tamron (and Sigma, for that matter) can have their IS somewhat customised via their USB interfaces, while Canon's IS behaviour is set in stone.

There is one exception, which is the Tamron 85mm. For some reason, the VC on that lens drops the image quality quite noticeably, similar to the kind of difference you'd expect between stopping down and using a lens wide open. Luckily that lens is optically incredible anyway, so the 'worse' optics with VC turned on are still better than any of the three Canon 85mms (still not as good as the Sigma or Zeiss, of course), but it's something to be aware of. For 1080p video you'll never notice it, but for 4K or for stills, you can see the difference in resolution and contrast between VC on and off.

As for Sigma, it's more random. Some of their OS is fine, and for other lenses it's so loud and clunky you wonder why they bothered. Funnily enough it's the cheaper lenses which seem to have the quieter and smoother OS (though, like Tamron, it's also slightly less effective in those lenses) while their more expensive lenses have dodgier OS (though it's fully effective in them).

In other words, it's a lot like the AF situation. Sigma focus on getting the optics as good as possible for the price point, but the electronics aren't as well developed as a result. Tamron do a better job with the electronics, but their optical quality is below Sigma. (Again, though, that still leaves them ahead of Canon in many cases, since Canon are still using some lens designs form twenty years ago and really need to bring many lenses up-to-date.)

I will say that if stabilised video is that important to you, get a GH5 or Sony. They're far, far better for it, especially if you record in 4k but publish in 1080p; the huge amount of resolution that gives you for software stabilisation should not be underestimated. Right now, a GH5 or α7/9 with Sigma's prime lenses is basically the very best hand-held 4K video system you can get. (Obviously you can get nicer systems if you're going to include dedicated video cameras, but that's a whole 'nother beast and I imagine if you were in the market for one of those you wouldn't be looking at this Tamron anyway.) You get stabilisation on everything, better video quality, better manual focus aids, and even for autofocus, being mirrorless solves the accuracy problems of the Sigmas, leaving you to enjoy the full quality of their optics.

Plainsman said:
another unimaginative product that won't sell in large numbers - market is saturated with these zooms
... Except they do sell, massively. The other Tamron and Sigma telephoto zooms sell in huge numbers, relative to the Canon and Nikon equivalents, and there's no reason to believe a 100-400 won't either.

What you complain about being "unimaginative" is precisely why these lenses sell. They give a focal range and/or features people want at a price the first-parties won't match, plus a better warranty as well, in most countries.
24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, 135mm, 24-70mm, 24-105mm, 70-200mm; all are "unimaginative". And they're all the top-sellers. Funnily enough when Tamron did break the mold and put out the 45mm in place of a 50mm, it proved nowhere near as popular and hasn't sold half as well as their more common focal lengths. Ever wonder why third-parties rarely make a 28mm, 100mm non-macro, and stopped making their 50-150mms? Those focal lengths either fell out of fashion or where never in fashion in the first place, and people buy whatever is popular. Once-upon-a-time, 100mm was 'the' portrait focal length. Now it's 85mm and if you want to make money, you build an 85mm lens. Canon's own 100-400mm, for years, was objectively worse than all their other lenses covering the same or similar range, yet it was still their best-selling telephoto lens by miles. The mk II is significantly better than the mk I but it hasn't been selling anywhere near as well, in large part (anecdotally according to several stores I've spoken to, as well as a couple of Canon reps) because they put the price up so high. (Same goes for the 35mm f/2 IS, which is only just now starting to pick up sales after a couple of years of the price diving.)

If Tamron can make a 100-400 which is better than the old Canon and at a similar price—it doesn't need to match the new Canon—then that's a sure-fire hit. Given their recent developments, it's a pretty safe bet that this lens will at the very least beat the mk I Canon (their 150-600 G2 already does), and likely give the mk II some decent competition and do so at a price which fits the general market much better.


(Disclaimer: I'm more of a prime guy and am very happy with the Canon 500mm and occasionally renting the Canon 600mm for these kinds of subjects, but if I ever have to downsize, I'll be going with the Tamrons. Every time I use them they do nothing but impress, while Canon never seem any better considering the much higher price tags. So, even though right now what I own are all Canon, I've used the Tamrons {and Sigmas} enough to know that if I were starting over today I'd be going all-third-party, and hence I encourage everyone else to at least give them serious consideration. Even when you have the money for the first-party options, some of these third-party versions are simply better, even before you factor in the prices. This is, if anything, more a reflection of how slow Canon have been to update many of their own lenses.)
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6DMKII mac support

tomscott said:
Its pretty frustrating how long its taking them to role it out.

You would think the two most important OS's would be a priority.

Yeah, well, Windows + OSX probably account for as close to 100% of photographers that use RAW as rounding errors make possible :)

However, photographers that use RAW probably account for as close to 0% of if Windows + OSX users as rounding errors make possible :D
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Fujifulm Announces the INSTAX SHARE SP-3 Smartphone Printer

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<p><em>Newly designed smartphone printer provides high quality images in square format; improved app offers new features for greater artistic expression</em></p>
<p><strong>Valhalla, N.Y., October 24, 2017 </strong>– <a href="http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/instax/index.html"><strong>FUJIFILM North America Corporation</strong></a> is excited to announce the new <strong>INSTAX SHARE™ SP-3 SQ</strong> printer, the latest line in the instax SHARE series of printers that can print photos taken with a smartphone on INSTAX SQUARE film. The SP-3 is an expansion of the INSTAX product line to give users even more ways to get creative with their instant pictures that can be shared in an instant, both in-person and online with <strong>#myinstax</strong>.</p>
<p><strong><a href="https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=SHARE%20SP-3&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=&BI=2466&KBID=3296&KWID=EZ">Preorder from B&H Photo</a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Square Format Provides More Artistic Potential

</strong>The square format has been widely popular among smartphone users. With a 1:1 aspect ratio, this format is an effective artistic style and a long-standing favorite among photography lovers. Recent years have seen a rise in the sharing of square photos on social media platforms, such as Instagram, with users putting great care into every step of the process, from composition to editing and processing. With the SP-3, users can print beautiful, high quality square images in just 13 seconds to be used in DIY crafts, to decorate with or to give as a gift.</p>
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<p><strong>Updated SHARE App Allows for Greater Creativity

</strong>The new and improved <strong>SHARE app</strong> comes with additional features, making every step easier and more fun. Users can print up to 9 photos on one sheet using the “Collage Template”, a feature enabled by the square format of the SP-3, or use “My Template” to add text to printed photos. “My Template” comes with 11 templates ranging from magazine covers to CD jackets. Users can also adjust the color and size of text. The end result is a stylish print that users will be proud to display and share. Additionally, the app’s display screens have been designed to make the entire process easy for novice users. The app can be downloaded from Google Play on Android devices or from the App Store on iPhones free of charge.</p>
<p><strong>“Hashtag Print” Feature

</strong>In addition to Instagram and Facebook, the app is compatible with Dropbox, Google Photos and Flickr. Through the “Hashtag Print” option, users can access Instagram directly through the app and select images under a chosen hashtag. This function makes it easy for users to find the photos they want and print them with ease, perfect for printing a collection of photos from any event where guests use a hashtag, like a wedding or party.</p>

<p><strong>Sleek Design

</strong>The SP-3 comes in white or black with a sleek, sophisticated look. The printer is also compact and lightweight with a sharp, multi-sided structure. The SP-3 is suitable in a wide range of situations.</p>
<p>This product is the latest in Fujifilm’s ongoing plan to share the inherent joy of taking, printing, displaying and sharing photos to expand the world of the instax instant photo system, allowing users to enjoy instant photos by printing photos that they have taken with their smartphone.</p>
<p><strong>Instax SHARE SP-3 Key Features:</strong></p>
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<li>Available in White and Black body colors.</li>
<li>Create instax photos by printing images from iPhones and Android phones via the instax SHARE app.</li>
<li>Printing is also compatible directly from X Series digital cameras to the SP-3.</li>
<li>High-resolution images with print pixels of 800 x 800 dots and 318 dpi to show detailed gradations and facial expressions of a full-length portrait, character or objects clearly.</li>
<li>Printing time of just 13 seconds.</li>
<li>Printing capacity of up to 160 prints per battery charge.</li>
<li>Comes with image Intelligence, proprietary image processing technology that automatically sets the optimum brightness during printing.</li>
<li>New Templates added to the instax SHARE app:
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<li>My Template – A template function where users can add text as desired and adjust the text color, size and darkness by moving sliders left and right, broadening the range of photo styles available to them.</li>
<li>Collage Template – A template function allowing users to print 2-9 photos together on one sheet to print a collection of memories from a special day or to tie together photos with a particular theme.</li>
<li>Split Template – Transform one picture into multiple instax photos. This allows all kinds of unique photo styles, such as dividing a beautiful landscape across two instax photos to make one big print.</li>
<li>SNS Template – Template for printing images that were uploaded to a social networking service (SNS). This social media-linked printing feature allows users to include their profile photo or number of likes in the photo.</li>
<li>Real Time Template – When the “Real Time Template” is selected and a photo is taken, the date, place, weather, temperature, and humidity are indicated in the frame, making it great for travel photos or watching your child grow.</li>
</ol>
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</ul>
<p><strong>Availability and Pricing

</strong>The new <strong>INSTAX SHARE SP-3 SQ</strong> will be available in November 2017 for <strong>USD $199.95 </strong>and <strong>CAD $249.99</strong>. Instax SQUARE film is sold separately for <strong>USD $16.99 </strong>and <strong>CAD $15.99</strong>.</p>
<p><strong><a href="https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=SHARE%20SP-3&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=&BI=2466&KBID=3296&KWID=EZ">Preorder from B&H Photo</a></strong></p>
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6D2 WiFi and bluetooth interfacing to a tablet

stevelee said:
Talys said:
@stevelee - If you want to photograph birds on a feeder, I find the best way is just to be patient, and eventually they'll ignore you (this way, you get to focus and compose, too). However, if you want to remote shoot, a cheap wireless trigger that uses the trigger port is the way to go, as opposed to liveview shooting. Just sit another 10 feet away or on the other side of a window. A remote trigger uses way less battery, has no lag, and has tactile feedback / a physical button.

I have a wireless trigger that probably would work with the 6D2, but I haven't tried it. I'm not sure where I would get to see the feed well enough to time the shot, though. That was the point of the live view. Perhaps I'll just try your method of hanging out long enough for the birds not to care, if I can muster enough patience. A cold front just came through, so it will be pleasant out there anyway.

A lot of the point of trying out different ways of doing this was for me to learn how to do them, so that I will already know what I'm doing if I ever need the skill. Trying out the wireless trigger with this camera would be a good idea, too, for the same reason.

Leaving the camera on a tripod on the deck does run the risk of a neighbor's cat, who could want to check out the new item in his domain before I could get outside to stop him.

So far I haven't tried any lens other than the kit STM on the camera. I like that lens a lot, and the autofocus is very quick. It may have me spoiled for my older lenses if they don't respond as well. The old 75-300 lens still has the solar filter on it from the eclipse, and it is still on my T3i, so I know I haven't used it since August 21. I know its optics are not going to improve from having a bigger sensor, but it should still be usable. It made surprisingly good eclipse pictures. I don't shoot telephoto pictures very often, probably in part because I don't have a great lens. I don't know whether I would use a better one more, or if I should just be satisfied with this one for such occasional use. I'm not into wildlife photography (yet?). The birds are just handy subjects behind my house.

Thanks for the ideas.

I bought the 6D2 as a birthday present for myself. Maybe I should consider the 24-105 kit lens as my Christmas present, since it is no L.

For bird feeders, my experience is that many birds have their favorite staging spots where they fly from (and sometimes line up at). So instead of trying to catch it when it's right at the feeder, watch their staging area, and start clicking away when they take off. You have a frame buffer of about 16-ish (on RAW), which is nearly 3 seconds, and it only takes about 1 second for birds to get from where they were to the feeder. So somewhere in there, you should get lucky and grab a couple of in-focus shots :D

Any Canon remote trigger with the female 3-pin should work. The ones for the non-weather sealed units (like 80D and Rebel) use the mini-mic connector and won't. The placement of the 6DII's remote trigger port is really nice too.


Mt Spokane Photography said:
Canon's wi-fi is a pain to operate, particularly if you connect to different devices, the wi-fi password never seems to work right after a few days.

The 80D WiFi "pairing" with multiple devices was the bane of my existence. Every time you connect a different device, it seemed delete the previous pairing, and repairing would sometimes not work -- or take a long time -- from the Remote Shooting utility. It felt like black magic to make it work at times.

The 6DII, however, has always been really easy to pair a new device, and it allows you to maintain multiple WiFi pairings, and even remembers the device names of what you paired. It is a godsend!
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Camera to complement your phone

This buyer's guide is tailored for casual photogs and not too much on serious photogs

I completely forgot that Nikon had mirrorless offerings.

1.5"
  • Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark II
1"
  • Sony RX0 1.0"-Type Sensor Ultra-Compact Waterproof/Shockproof
  • Canon PowerShot G7 X Mark II
  • Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 V
  • Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III
  • Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100
  • Canon PowerShot G9 X Mark II
  • Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX10
  • Canon PowerShot G3 X
  • Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-RX100 IV
  • Canon PowerShot G9 X
  • Canon PowerShot G5 X
  • Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 V
  • Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100
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Canon Lens instant rebates

awinphoto said:
Thanks you for your suggestions, guys... as of present, for this lens, Canon has none available for refurbished. I will keep looking as i get closer and closer towards purchasing. On the pricewatch link, it has some grey market ones, any experiences you have had with grey markets?

The issue with gray market lenses as sold on ebay can be those who decide the lens is not as sharp as it should be and want to return it. 15% restock charge! The sellers will trade out a clearly defective lens if you notify them in a reasonable time, but one that does not live up to your expectations can be a problem. So far, Canon is servicing them, but they will likely tell you it meets specifications.

If you look and use a service like greentoe to find a deal for you from a authorized dealer with 30 day return rights, thats the way to go.
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Canon Updates DPP & Picture Style Editor, Adds PowerShot G1 X Mark III Support & More

JonAustin said:
expatinasia said:
Thanks for the heads up, have just installed it. I use DPP every day so I always like to know when it has been updated. Cheers.

I don't use DPP (and don't want to install it just to find out), but doesn't it offer the option to check for updates either automatically or on demand, per the user's preference?

I do not believe there is a setting to update automatically or to get informed of an update though I may be wrong.

I like the small changes they made in this version of DPP. I use it every day and it works great.
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Irix Presents Its Edge 100 Filter System for Wide Angle Lenses

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<p>The TH Swiss company would like to announce the expansion of its range of Irix accessories with the Edge 100 series filter system. Among new products, there will be a versatile holder – the IFH-100 – with dedicated adapters and a wide choice of 100x100mm and 100x150mm filters.</p>
<p><strong>The Irix Edge IFH-100 filter holder

</strong>The Irix IFH-100 is a universal filter holder designed for size 100mm filters. Its lightweight compact construction and bayonet adapter are created especially for the Irix 15mm f/2.4 lens, allowing the use of two filters at the same time without any vignetting effect. The construction of the filter holder base on the removable adapters allows for quick and easily attachment to the lens, along with free rotation around the optical axis when using the graduated or polarizing filters.</p>
<p>The ability to use removable adapters with thread diameters from 67mm to 82mm means that the holder can be used with lenses produced by Irix in the future, along with other brands. Each adapter has an additional thread for attaching the cap to the lens.</p>
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<p>The filter holder is made of an aluminium alloy, which guarantees the high strength and stiffness of its structure. This has enabled to get an extremely compact size while keeping wide functionality, along with an aesthetic design together with the whole Irix product line. It is worth mentioning that the IFH-100 is the lightest holder of its class. The front surface of the filter holder is covered with a light-absorbing velvet fabric that blocks access to the side light, what is especially important when using high density optical ND filters.</p>
<p><strong>The Irix Edge 100 filters</strong>

With the introduction of the IFH-100 filter holder, the Edge 100 series filters will also be available in two formats. The first, size 100×150, will contain gradual filters with a soft and hard transition, and also a reversed gradual filter dedicated to taking pictures of sunrises and sunsets. These rectangular filters will be available in ND4, ND8 and ND16 versions. In the square format, Neutral Density filters with densities ND32, ND128, ND1000, ND1000K will be available for the 100x100mm, along with a polarizing filter. There are future plans by the manufacturer to introduce filters which reduce light pollution.</p>
<p>Edge 100 series filters have a thickness of 2mm and are made from high quality optical glass which is also used in the production of the optical elements in lenses. Filters are coated on both sides with an anti-reflective nano-coating to keep high contrast and natural colours in pictures. The additional water and oil repellent coating also ensures easy cleaning of the surface.</p>

<p><strong>The premiere at Photo Plus Expo 2017</strong>

The Edge series will be available at the Irix booth (No.929) during the Photo Plus Expo in New York City on October 26-28, 2017.</p>
<p>The full range of new Irix Edge accessories, along with pricing and availability information, will be published in the near future.</p>

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Canon Celebrates Production of 90 Million EOS Series Cameras and 130 Million Interchangeable EF Lens

Re: Canon Celebrates Production of 90 Million EOS Series Cameras and 130 Million Interchangeable EF

Jopa said:
okaro said:
For the comparison Apple sells some 200 million iPhones annually. In total some 220 million IL-cameras were sold in 1987-2016. Of those 71 % were digital. I doubt many people change bodies. In 2011-2013 huge number of bodies were sold as the prices had dropped to reasonable levels. Few have updates those as the sales dropped.

This is nuts. Why people need so many phones?
Phones are much more useful than cameras. They can be used for vidoe and voice calls, messaging, email, browsing, music, video. word processing, spreadsheet, presentations, photo editing, photo sharing, dating etc.

In 2016 overall, smartphone sales to end users totaled nearly 1.5 billion units, an increase of 5 percent from 2015.

A lot of end users receive their phones through 1/2/3 year cellphone contracts with their carrier.

For iPhone, carriers have the largest share, at 77% in the twelve months ending September 2017.

Apple Has Sold 1.2 Billion iPhones Over the Past 10 Years.

Of which an estimated total iPhone installed base hit 715 million, including 228 million of second-hand devices, in December 2016, with year-on-year growth of 20%.

So smartphones with camera improvements is "pushed" as a bundled feature to end users rather than "pulled" by end users when we buy a compact, dSLR or mirrorless.

For consumers (aka non-working photogs) with extra money probably buy one IL-camera with one lens and keep it until it becomes unserviceable at which point they make a choice to buy another IL-camera, compact or stick with smartphone.

For us whose passion or profession is photography we find smartphones and even compacts too limiting in our field of interest.

Press news agencies like EPA or Reuters upgrade on a cycle as a competitive advantage mirroring the release of the latest and greatest from Canon & Nikon. I'm sure other photography businesses follow this business practice so long as revenue supports it.

I was able to buy a brand new Android One smartphone for the equivalent of USD50.00 with sales tax. For that amount I'd only be able to buy a memory card.
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70-100mm VS. 100-400mm Questions?

stevelee said:
From the Wikipedia article on Murphy's Law:

Hartman's law of prescriptivist retaliation: "Any article or statement about correct grammar, punctuation, or spelling is bound to contain at least one eror." Named after journalist Jed Hartman.

It's an example of Muphry's Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry's_law).
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Non-birder brings a 70-200 and a 2x in search of eagles -- hilarity ensues

I went through this drill of trying to find a single lens solution plus TC, and it didn't work for me. I also wasn't going to spend $6K or more on a big white, as I am 70 years old and just shoot for fun. For any indoor venues I always go with the 70-200mm f/2.8 II, usually with a 6D, but I just shot a 50th reunion which also included the 5DsR. 70-200 II and 5DsR at ISO 6400, f/3.2, 1/250 @ 200mm produced a head and shoulders shot where you can count the eyebrows hairs, but with admittedly a little noise on the teeth when pixel peeping. At any normal image size, the noise is invisible.

For a while I used the f/2.8 zoom with a 2X TC III for wildlife and perched birds, but for BIF it was a bust if AF got lost in the sky. Later I purchased the 400mm f/5.6 and that is my birding lens period. I now also have the 100-400mm II, and I wish it had a 10m focus limit in addition to 3m. It doesn't, and it can also get lost in the sky and focus down to MFD, at which point you are done.

As far as the 70-200mm f/4 vs. f/2.8 I consider them completely different lenses for different venues. When I was on Easter Island and Machu Picchu, I was shooting outdoors so the 24-105 f/4 IS and 70-200 f/4 IS were completely adequate as far as maximum aperture. There was no point in dealing with the weight and size of the f/2.8 zoom.

For BIF IS isn't particularly helpful since I need a shutter speed of 1/1000 or faster. For more general wildlife the 2X TC on the 70-200 is OK, but once I started using the 400 f/5.6 I sold the 2X TC III. Now for more general wildlife I go with the 100-400mm II all the time. I rarely use the 1.4X TC III, but it works quite well on the 70-200 f/4 and the 300mm f/4 IS. I am not going to sell the 1.4X TC, but it is my least used piece of equipment.

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Canon Officially Announces The PowerShot G1 X Mark III

merefield said:
The marketing guys usually get it right ... there are many reasons why you price and spec a product a certain way not least to fill a gap in the market to capture a certain kind of customer, act as halo product etc.

Take the iPhone X ... CLEARLY over priced for most, but there are a sufficient number of well-healed customers with fat wallets who are prepared to pay almost ANYTHING to get the latest greatest Apple product. The marketing team knows this and doesn't care that the rest of the market is not interested, they only want to maximise profit and brand.
The price of the G1 X Mark III matches the Fujifilm X100F

Canon EOS M5 Mirrorless Digital Camera with 15-45mm Lens is $1,049 but is heavier, larger and has a slower lens than the G1X Mark III. Both cameras share the same focal length range and APS-C image sensor.

The PowerShot isnt primarily targeted at people who need an ILC.

Its for people who want as small and light a camera possible that provides superior image quality to supplement and connect to their smartphone.

To further assert this position that there is a market for the G1X Mark III on October 12, 2017 Canon manufactured it's 90 millionth EOS body and 130 millionth EF lens.

That comes out as 1.4444 lenses for every 1 body.

This tells me that the majority of body owners probably own 1 lens. This lens is probably the bundled kit lens hence the popularity of body kits from as high as a the 5D series to the entry 200D/SL2.

The minority own more than 1 lens.

I vaguely remember that the 1-Series bodies make up 1% of the annual production run of EOS bodies of Canon. I have never seen a 1-Series body kit bundle offered since I kept track of dSLRs in 2003.

This would be similar to Nikon as well.

So at most 1-Series bodies will not exceed 1 million units in its whole production run.

This is the same as the iPhone X. It might appeal to the top 1% or top 10% of iPhone users.
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