Not a bad point Wickid but 85 is more ideal for portraits imo. Besides the 100 is macro and 85 wouldn't be.

From a specs standpoint without any hands on I would be shocked if the noise wasn't pretty close to the 5dm3. Also the real benefit and maybe the only one to guys like me that already have better cameras is the -3 ev focussing in the dark. Like Neuro has mentioned the 5dm3 is -2 ev, the 6d is -3ev. Wedding receptions may have just gotten easier to shoot in the dark without flash. Still I keep thinking about the 1dm4 more than most cameras just because of its build, price and at some point would replace my 1dm3. It would be smarter from the standpoint of shooting sports too. While I have made the 5dm3 my main sports camera this year as a test I did have to shoot smarter and didn't have the voltage to power the focus speed like a 1d body does. Its hard to beat a 1d for sports. As far as the 1dx is concerned, yea I want it but I can't swallow that i can have 2 - 5dm3's for less.

The dust won't appear on your images, its just something that has happened on film and digital SLR's since they came out. You can get it cleaned, but it will be back sooner or later. Oklahoma does get a bit of dust in the air occasionally - OK

Mt Spokane Photography said:

Typically, we do see lower prices in December for Canon products. This is because Canon's fiscal year ends December 31. Thats when the profit / loss and sales figures that go into their annual report are determined.
In order to make things look as good as possible, Canon reduces prices to clear out inventory. This year, there is a world wide financial crisis and sales are poor. The poor sales and the end of year will result in some really big discounts, but they will be of the form of one or two day blowout sales rather than a price drop.
Just be ready to jump on one when it comes. For example, I see a new 5D MK III for $USD 2799 on ebay this morning. its likely a one day only sale.

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-1....Canon doesn't build finish goods then stock them in warehouse. Canon will build your 5D III based on dealer orders(qty). It calls build-to-order or FIFO.

It's all about lean, cost reduction and floor space.

I'd be interested in an EOS-M verison
EF-M 15-85 STM IS it would be even better if it were constant f4 too (I'm not the biggest fan of having my widest available aperture as 5.6) maybe they could put the Hybrid Is in there and the latest coatings, it would be interesting to see what sort of size reduction the EF-M system could achieve.

When I'm doing portraits with it, It'll probably be outdoors. I can definitely handle the indoors aspect with the 24-70 and the 50 f/1.4.

I think it can be safely generalized that anyone wanting to go pro...will be coming up from doing it purely as a hobby.

And starting off, with no portfolio...and needing to learn the ropes about photography, and these days...a LOT about PP, well, you just can't start out asking a lot of money.

I'm planning to start shooting some local bands here, a friend of mine likes what I've shown him so far...and he's involved with bars around town and local bands...so, I'm going to shoot a lot after the first of the year, basically free...and for drinks.

This will allow me to learn how to shoot lowlight indoors, settings that work...and PP aftewards.
I'll get some free drinks...and the bands will get some good shots. Basically the foot in the door thing.
You gotta learn somewhere...and getting experience and contacts should be good, no?

That being said...as I go along, while I think it would be amazing to be able to quit my "day job" and do photography and videography full time, I dunno if I could pull in what I do with my current day job.

Starting out, I'm gonna be happy to get some extra $$ at some point, to feed my current addiction I've gotten since getting this great camera.

However, I am the type always looking to make a dollar.

I recently watched a week long series a week ago with a wedding (primarily) photographer, Sal Cinciotta. This guy started his wedding photog business basically in 2008...I think he cleared maybe $16K or so that year...something fairly low.
This year, he's gonna gross over $1M...and I can see from the series he gave and how he operates...it is possible.

I need to learn more about actual shooting and learning the camera...but who knows...in a year or so, I'm going to try to model shooting on his business plan.

Anyway, I'm rambling...forgot where I'm going with all of this...
But hey, you gotta start somewhere. Free is usually the starting place....once you get your feet wet, and learn what to do...well, sure, you gotta figure what you're worth.

One thing I got out of the talk by Sal....he found the more money he charged...the more business he got and the move value people place on his work.

A very interesting story. I watched it live for free, but was so intrigued I bought the lecture for $149...it is more than that...but pretty interesting.

The show was here:
http://www.creativelive.com/courses/wedding-photography-business-boot-camp-sal-cincotta

I'm not associated with this guy...but I was inspired on how to view turning this hobby, eventually into a business....and after the first of the year when I get a bit more time...that's the way I'm moving.

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Fotofanten said:

I like that there is nothing in particular that I dislike with the camera. They must have really listened to the feedback from mk II owners. The larger full coverage VF is my one favorite improvement.

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I agree, Canon sure did listen. The numerous refinements in the camera show plenty of evidence of that. This thread is further evidence. And it belies the threads on various forums that complain about Canon "not listening" or using "ancient sensors" or building a 5D3 that was only "minor update" over the 5D2. The 5D3 is clearly designed to be closer to the 1D series in speed and handling, and may be more durable than the 5D2. The only glitch is the black AF point thing, but it doesn't diminish the overall excellence of the camera.

Fabulous price if it's a reputable dealer.

23795 – Modalités offre Canon : Jusqu'à 200€ remboursés sur les boîtiers
et optiques
Pour l'achat d'un optique ou d’un boîtier Canon porteur de l'offre*, dans les enseignes participantes
entre le 1er Novembre 2012 et le 20 Janvier 2013, Canon vous rembourse jusqu’à 200 € TTC sur les
produits suivants.
* Produits porteurs de l’offre :
30€ remboursés pour l’achat de l’une des références suivantes :
GP-E2
SPEEDLITE 430 EX II
EF-S 60mm 1:2.8 MACRO USM
EXTENDER EF 2X III
EXTENDER EF 1.4X III
EF 50mm 1:1.4 USM
EF 70-300mm 1:4.0-5.6 IS USM
EF-S 17-85mm 1:4.0-5.6 IS USM
50€ remboursés pour l’achat de l’une des références suivantes :
60D
60D + S18-55IS II
60D + EF-S 18-135mm IS
60D + EF-S 18-135 IS + 40mm STM
EF-S 18-200mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS
EF 100mm 1:2.8 USM MACRO
EF 70-200mm 1:4.0 L USM
600EX-RT
70€ remboursés pour l’achat de l’une des références suivantes :
EF 17-40mm 1:4.0 L USM
EF-S 15-85mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS USM
EF-S 10-22mm 1:3.5-4.5 USM
EF 100mm 1:2.8 L IS USM MACRO
EF-S 17-55mm 1:2.8 IS USM
80€ remboursés pour l’achat de la référence suivante :
60D + EF-S 17-85mm 1:4.0-5 .6 IS USM
100€ remboursés pour l’achat de l’une des références suivantes :
60D + S18-200mm 1 :3.5-5.6 IS
7D
7D + EF-S 18-135mm IS
EF 24-105mm 1:4.0 L IS USM
EF 70-200mm 1:4.0 L IS USM
EF 70-200mm 1:2.8 L USM
EF 16-35mm 1:2.8 L II USM
EF 70-300mm 1:4.0-5.6 L IS USM
EF 100-400mm 1:4.5-5.6 L IS USM
110€ remboursés pour l’achat de l’une des références suivantes :
60D + EF-S 17-85mm 1:4.0-5.6 IS USM
+ EF 70-300mm 1 :4.0-5.6 IS USM
150€ remboursé pour l’achat de la référence suivante :
7D + 70-300 ISU
170€ remboursés pour l’achat de l’une des références suivantes :
7D + S15-85 IS
7D + S17-55 ISU
7D + 17-40 F4.0 L
200 € remboursés pour l’achat de l’une des références suivantes :
7D + 15-85 IS +70-300 ISU
EF 70-200mm 1:2.8 L IS USM II

$2799 right now on ebay. http://www.canonpricewatch.com/product/03868/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-price.html

How much do they charge for a service does anyone know? I think I will wait if its just sensor dust that causes issues ill sort it when I go home!

I went from a 550D to a 7D too for the same reason as OP. I kept missing shots due to the slowness. I adore my 7D, but sadly since I got the 5D II, it has been mostly unused. Glad you chose to go with the 5D III, you'll appreciate it in the long run!

Ryan_W said:

Not a dumb question. Very dumb t-shirt.

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I wondered about the same thing when I recently saw it - but it isn't dumb at all because all publicity is good publicity, he is remembered and talked about :-o

The 24-70 f4 lens is being offered as the kit lens with a 6D at Camera Canada for $3299.00. $400 more than the kit with the 24-105 f4. I think the 24-70 will make a pretty good match for an advanced amateur camera. By adding a fast fixed lens for night shooting and perhaps the 70-200 f2.8 II as a future prize it could be a relative cheap way for amateurs to enter the FF market and have a system with fairly high IQ, admittedly with limitations.

bdunbar79 said:

I am totally convinced that everyone on this forum is incapable of understanding humor/sarcasm. I would suggest going out sometime. The social experience is invaluable.

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On the contrary, I'm sure most of us understand sarcasm just fine, and many even embrace it Reading minds, and inferring the precise intent of a written post, eludes me, however. Had I assumed you were being sarcastic when in fact you were not, you might quite rightly have taken offense. I generally find it better to take statements at face value unless I have good reason to do otherwise. On the rare occasions on which I am forced to leave my basement, that is... :

DXO is way lame...

I've had my 1dx now for nearly 2 months and have already got a few fine scratches on the screen. I have 2 5dmkii bodies which I have owned for over a year and both have clean screens without any scratches. I wish I had a screen protector on the 1dx as I'm a bit gutted that a camera which cost so much has a scratched screen as I plan to own the 1dx for the next year or two.
The screen resolution is great and clear but I still think that you still don't know how good the images are until you get the files back on the computer. I did a shoot today for a magazine cover and trying to judge a pretty complex lighting set up from an LCD screen no matter how clear is pretty hard, so I would rather of had a plastic cover like on the D3 which you can take off at your own discretion.
I contacted Calumet about replacing the screen and it's not as simple as with the 5d's where you can take out and replace the screen only, Canon have to replace the entire back panel that the screen is attached to and it's not cheap!

Northstar said:

This may sound like a crazy idea but.....how about getting a part time job, and then go buy one for yourself?

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: Yea..... sounds good I know I left out the part about me that said I work full time for Chase, I have a family with Kids and I do some side weddings but that got me only about 600 this year as a second shooter.... sure better than most but that money doesn't go to more gear unfortunately

johnsonstudios said:

Wondering if there is any chance Canon will make a firmware update for the 1D IV so they can use the group function with the new 600EX flashes?

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Canon has an interest in phasing out aps-h so that they can sell more expensive tele lenses for people who aren't satisfied a crop sensor. For this reason alone Canon imho won't add *any* firmware features, and they aren't in the habit of doing so anyway - they only do it when pressed by the market (5d2 video, 7d2 auto-iso, 5d3/1dx f8).

Bad news for you: esp. the group function is the "premium" feature only available on the newest 1dx/5d3 bodies, since older bodies like 5d2 without rt ui are compatible with the 600rt even if Canon tries to say otherwise (hss speed) - why would Canon backport this? And they didn't to paid firmware updates yet.

SwissBear said:

i heard that tulip-shaped lenshoods start to soar if spinned with 1000rpm or more.

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I think I have to test that

I do about 30 weddings a year for about 10 years now. My suggestion is to get 2 580's or the new 600's...Use one to trigger the other if needed....You could get one of the big flashes and add a 430 too, but the big flashes give you master/slave but the 430 doesn't give master...But having two isn't bad since if one breaks you have a backup.....You will need 1 flash on your camera for anything that is in a darker reception room or at night, especially for people..You could also use both flashes in these scenarios as well.

Natural light is only going to get you so far during a wedding day...And with all the quicky portraits and dances during a reception you will also need the focus assist that the flash will give you depending on how dark it is. If it's dark the camera may have trouble focusing depending on how dark and what lens. You can easily trigger the 2nd flash if needed for off camera stuff.

I also use the pocket wizards with ettl and they are great but not when its darker. You lose the focus assist unless you have a speedlight on the camera.

Hi all,

I'm currently in the process of building up my collection of lenses and am need of some advice.

I'm look for something in the telephoto zoom range, most likely a 70-200, and I've been looking at the offerings from both Tamron and Sigma. Does anybody have any experiences with either of the lenses? What about the comparison between them and their Canon counterparts?

Any opinions/advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

I took some photos of a friend driving his monster truck last summer (2011), and ended up having to use the 35mmL and cropping the images severely. Even wide open and severely cropped, I can print large prints.
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CharlieB said:

True differences of the one measly stop - 100/2 vs 100/2.8 macro... I have used, and LOVE the 100/2, but I got the 100/2.8 macro..... you'll never notice the one stop difference in DOF or bokeh.

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Maybe you don't, maybe the OP won't. I certainly notice the difference in DoF between f/2.8 and f/2 at 85mm and 135mm.