What's the deal with Dynamic Range???
- By ahab1372
- HDR - High Dynamic Range
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Recently I have seen a movie production outside with several light panels (LED I believe) about 1m2 (10sqft) in size
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You are not thinking of making someone crazy by shooting first with your Canon S100 ps camera and then presenting the 1DX/300mm 2.8 combo after he shows you his "super" digital rebel as THE cameraneuroanatomist said:tron said:Are you thinking of it as a lighter/smaller alternative to 600 (perhaps with a 2X) ?neuroanatomist said:I notice you left off the 300/2.8L IS II from your list...
Partly. But primarily for sports, as my daughters get to that point...
GMCPhotographics said:funkboy said:That is exactly the point I was (sleepily) trying to make: I'd guesstimate that 9 in 10 of the folks on forums that say "my copy of lens X is sharper than lens Y, I've tested them both" didn't actually calibrate their AFMA before they did their "testing", and it's awfully rare that anyone mentions that they actually *did* check AFMA beforehand. The same likely goes for people returning lenses because they got a "bad copy"...
Guys, I'm not in the habit of posting any of my files at 100% on a public forum. I've been using my 85IIL and 135L in a professional manner for nearly six years now. I've used them both on my 5D/5DII and currently 5DIII camera progressions. Since the 5DII became available, I have microadjusted every lens which I currently use. I use Lensalign pro by Colorvision. I've used this to test everything from my Siggi 12-24mm through to a 400mm f2.8 L IS with a 2x TC on it.
My comments about my particular copy of the 85IIL and 135L have been observed on a consistent basis over the last six years. My second photographer's 135L seems a little sharper than mine, but her 85IIL isn't quite as sharp as mine, this is on her own 5DII's which are calibrated to her lenses. It's not MA in these cases but production variance in the optics. It's a good reason why I don't tend to trawl online lens charts becuase each lens is slightly different and most sites only test a few copies at best.
So when I say that my copy of the 85IIL is a tad sharper than my 135L, the emphasis here is on the MY copy. Your milage might vary somewhat.
Judging optical resolution is only one aspect of a lens...we all know how bad the purple fringing is with the 85IIL...and the AF is no ball of fire...or that the drive by wire AF feels a little weird to use...or that it weights almost as much as a 70-200 in a lens which is about 1/4 of the size.
But given the choice, I'd rather use the 85IIL over a 135L.
Yep, since a couple of weeks. Back to Sweden where we today have 17 degrees and rain. My wife had to stay back a couple of weeks more though, they have about 40 degrees and rain in PP now.expatinasia said:Hobby Shooter said:Hey, as you know I've lived there, just moved back though after three years. I'm sorry but I've never heard of it. Had this come up just a couple of weeks ago I could've gone out to locate them. Sorry!
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That's cool, didn't realise you had returned to Europe.
I am not a birder, but as I know a lot of people here at CR love taking shots of birds, I thought this would interest some of them.
jrista said:CarlTN said:jrista said:CarlTN said:jrista said:CarlTN said:It will be interesting to see if Canon can actually achieve parity with the current SOA sensor, regarding those attributes that people like to argue about. What would be mind blowing, is if Canon actually exceeds those attributes...regardless of the pixel dimensions. It seems to me that if the number is closer to 60MP rather than 45, the performance might be more compromised. Certainly it will be difficult to make use of all that resolution outside the center 50% of the image on most, if not all Canon lenses...even the 24-70 ii.
Remember that total system resolution is effectively (closely approximated by) the root mean square of the resolution of each component that makes up the system. In a DSLR, to keep things simple, the final resolution of the photographs you make is the RMS of the resolutions of the lens and the sensor. There is no such thing as one outresolving the other. Increasing the resolution of either lens or sensor increases the resolution of the system as a whole, and produces higher resolution photographs.
You get the most bang for the buck by increasing the lowest common denominator, but if you have a lens, like the 24-70 II, and you use it on a 60mp FF camera...you WILL realize better results (all other things being equal...i.e. assuming the best tech available is used to produce said 60mp sensor.)
That was not my point. My point was as stated. I never said the overall results would not be "better". To belabor my point, since you are intentionally missing it...I will quote myself: "...it will be difficult to make use of all that resolution outside the center 50% of the image on most, if not all Canon lenses...even the 24-70 ii."
I stand by this. Your point does not disprove my point. You might have your own idea about how you define the phrase "make use of all that resolution". I have mine. My point was never that you could not get improved resolution and image quality, from a higher megapixel sensor. Only a fool would argue that. Yet you seem to want to believe that's what I meant. I wonder why? Up to your same old tricks I see.
As for "bang for buck", that is an entirely separate issue altogether, which I hope you realize...and has nothing to do what my point.
I am not intentionally trying to misquote you... Simple matter of the facts.
I does not matter whether you are talking about resolution at the center of the frame, edge of the frame, or corner of the frame. The basis of "system resolution", which is a convolution of the effects of each and every component, holds true regardless of which region of the frame you apply it to. Sure, poorer quality lenses and wider angle lenses tend to have more detractors to resolution in the corners. That does not mean that suddenly the rules that govern overall system resolution change. Just as much as a higher resolution sensor will improve the outcome of what the lens resolves at the center, so too will it improve the outcome of what the lens resolves at the edge. A higher resolution sensor can never produce WORSE results than a lower resolution sensor, all else being equal.
A horrible lens is a horrible lens, and while you might see marginal improvements in corner resolution with a higher resolution sensor, you experience diminishing returns. An excellent lens, such as the 24-70 II, which performs quite well in the corners, will realize a greater benefit from a move to a higher resolution lens than, say, the 16-35 II (which performs only moderately well in the corners), both of which would benefit considerably better than say the EF-S 18-55mm, which performs terribly in the corners.
The benefit boils down to a matter of degree for every component involved, not whether or not you get any benefit at all outside of the center of the lens. You don't "make use" of resolution...you convolve a result via a functional process as a real-world image passes through each and every lens element, the aperture, the sensor's filter stack, the CFA, and even the pixel well itself. A higher resolution sensor, assuming equivalence in terms of noise, could never "compromise" IQ in any way. Even with a relative increase in noise, a higher resolution sensor, when its image size is normalized to that of any lower resolution sensor, would still produce results that are as good as or better. (The only time I believe a higher resolution sensor can be detrimental to IQ is when there is a disproportionate increase in the amount of noise due to smaller pixels, which to some degree is the case with the 7D (a fact I blame on Canon's 500nm process, which wastes a lot of photodiode space resulting in disproportionately smaller light sensitive photodiode area relative to sensors with larger pixels...a defect I believe a move to a smaller process, such as 180nm, can resolve.))
A far greater concern, in my opinion, for high density sensors than "making use of" any given lenses resolving power would be avoiding softening from camera shake. As pixel sizes shrink for both APS-C and FF sensors, the effects of camera shake will become increasingly magnified. The slightest vibration caused by even a light wind across a camera on a tripod is likely to introduce detrimental softening on a 24mp APS-C or 61mp FF sensor. I've experienced moderate winds that, even on my very stable GT3532LS tripod, introduce some softening, and the 7D is becoming something only moderately dense as sensor technology continues to evolve and push the envelope towards smaller and smaller pixels.
Where are you quoting "system resolution"? I made no mention of it. I agree on the point of camera shake making its presence more known as sensor resolution increases. Vibration from the mirror, and to a lesser degree the shutter, are also factors. But I'm sure you will find a way to disagree with me on that, or otherwise tell me I am thinking of it in the wrong way.
System resolution describes the resolution of the final output of any optical system, which is what a camera with a lens attached is. It's a mathematical concept, thus easily provable. I don't disagree about mirror slap and shutter vibration...definitely two things that can contribute to camera shake, and affect IQ as pixel size diminishes.
There seems to be only very limited number of staff( 1person ?) in each country/region who is qualified to repair the 1DC. When I took my 1DC to repair the focus problem last month, one of the repair engineer told me there are a few staff who can repair 1dX but only one can work on the 1DC.marvinhello said:dilbert said:Ellen Schmidtee said:dilbert said:Canon Rumors said:Please note: the new EOS-1D C feature upgrade is only available from Canon’s authorised service facilities in Europe
And that is because they don't want the firmware being generally available for folks such as ML to examine, learn from and maybe modify.
Do Canon firmware upgrades patch the camera's firmware, or do they overwrite it in whole?
They overwrite it entirely.
If it's the 2nd case, then 1D-C owners would have to come to a service facility for each and every firmware upgrade in the future, which I somehow doubt Canon would do.
If there are only a relatively small number of 1D-C cameras sold (lets say 1000s or at most 10s of 1000s) then the number that need to be serviced by each service center is going to be small.
Actually, not all service centres are qualified to service high end models such as 1D C, C300/100 and 1D X.
In the UK, only one service centre located Herfordshire is designated to perform this feature upgrade for 1D C. Currently the number of 1D C sold in the UK is about 40 units (inlcuding corporate and rental house)
The duration that the CMOS record(cumulate light energy). This is the same for Live view mode. The circurtry in the CMOS decide how long to record( duration to register light) and pass infor to the processor to work on.risc32 said:what does the shutter speed control while shooting video? i have no idea. It's not controlling my camera's shutter. if that is what you are asking, again, i have no idea.