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DarkG · Jul 24, 2012

Just in case here is more information.

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Expected to Ship Thu, 7/26

http://www.jr.com/canon/pe/CAN_EOS1DXBODY/?JRSource=linkshare&SiteID=gjNcBd7PjPc-X6vHlkF1XrS82p1pcpaHrg

Rat · Jul 24, 2012

wickidwombat said:
why didnt you just ask for a full replacement?

In the Dutch example I posted the camera eventually was returned and got replaced immediately under warranty. I'd try and give 'em a call, as wickidwombat suggests, because if you pay 3K+ for a camera you shouldn't have to wait for weeks for it... hope it works out for you

swrightgfx · Jul 24, 2012

ssrdd said:
swrightgfx said:

marekjoz said:

ssrdd said:

if i really wanted a compact and solid powerful camera.
i would go to OM-D from olympus. Not for an old sensor wrapped in new shell.

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Most power comes here from the lens selection, which BTW makes it no pocketable anymore.

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Let me re-quote myself:

swrightgfx said:

If they were to front up with a decent, discreet EVF and a small triplet like the Perar below, I'd actually, surprising to myself, consider this.

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If we had a couple of really simple lens designs, even if only manual focus, I think this could still be considered pocketable. The OM-D body is much larger (if it was full-frame, I'd forgive them).

I personally don't mind carrying around large cameras, as I still use medium format film, but it would be a handy addition if everything was "right."

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And u think Eos-m is pocketable with all the adaptors.
who care if some body wanted shitty old sensor which fairly poor low light quality.

go ahed fan boy, buy two or more. At least canon might compensate the losses from 5d3.

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I think you misunderstood me. I was referring to the possible development of lenses that of a low profile similar to the MS Optical Perar (10mm), to be designed specifically for the EOS-M (ie. no EOS-M adapter) and leaving it with an overall depth of just over 40mm. I have a wallet that, when crammed with notes, cards and receipts, measures that wide - still fits in my pocket.

In terms of the sensor, I think you will find it is pretty, bloody good for a mirrorless. They could certainly do more, I do not deny, but as an entry into the mirrorless market, I don't think the sensor is the main concern here. I would like to see a rangefinder or at least an optical viewfinder, as well as a small pop-out flash, amongst other things.

I am no fan-boy and probably wouldn't buy one of the things mentioned above being included (which may result from a higher end version released in the future). I will say one thing, though - I don't think the 5D Mark III is a loss for Canon, with both it and the D800 selling in high numbers.

I think you need to start taking some photos.

brianleighty · Jul 23, 2012

gandhi said:
I have been tracking the price of Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Telephoto Zoom Lens for quite some time and it has never gone down $2299.
I want to get it but I am not in any hurry, did any one see the price lesser than $2299. Do you think during Christmas it might go down further?

Not sure where you live but at least in the states slickdeals.net is a good place if you're looking for deals on lenses. I have a tracker setup for Canon and get posts all the time. You obviously get a lot of other random stuff but there's some good deals in there too pretty regularly.

Drizzt321 · Jul 23, 2012

Don't forget to check your local CraigsList! I got a decent 880ws pack + 4 heads w/stands & umbrellas for $400. A pretty old set, but still works perfectly fine.

Jul 23, 2012

This lens was announced in January so it's been quite a long time coming. I can see this taking sales from Canon's 180mm although, at $600 more than Sigma's 150mm OS alternative, you'd really have to want those extra 30mm.

Videoshooter · Jul 23, 2012

You can crop in post, but you'll lose a lot of your resolution.

You can crop APS-C photos in post as well, for even tighter framing, so regardless of post-cropping the APS-C sensor still has major advantages for telephoto shots.

Perhaps the one exception is the Nikon D800 with 36mp. Assuming you're using good glass, you can crop 36mp a long way, to the point where it is equivelant to an ~18mp APS-C sensor.

wickidwombat · Jul 23, 2012

i love the combo the sigma 85 is easily my favourite lens
here is a 100% crop screen shot from a raw file at either f1.4 or f2

and another candid shot with the combo

moonwell · Jul 23, 2012

Cam from Tallyn's delivered this afternoon!

I hadn't canceled my Crutchfield order yet, and was notified my cam was in with them this afternoon as well

kennephoto · Jul 23, 2012

Alright thanks that does make sense.

Videoshooter · Jul 23, 2012

Hi Thundermonkey.

I've never shot speeches on anything as wide as a 24-70, normally I use my 80-200 and that is perfect. The way I like to work is to have one camera on the speaker on a tripod, while I roam around getting CU's and reaction shots of the crowd with a monopod. I go back to the main camera between each speech to re-frame (for height differences) and to wait and see if they are going to be a 'roamer'. Once I'm moving around I still keep an eye on the speaker and if they look like they're going to move, I'll quickly run back to adjust the main camera. Sometimes (depending on if I have an extra shooter/more than 2 cameras with me) I'll also have a static medium shot of the bride & groom at their table which makes for a perfect back-up angle.

I think I'll probably get the 28mm & 85mm new as there don't seem to be many used ones floating around in Australia. The 70-200 and 17-55 I will probably buy used, but if I get good prices on the stuff I'm selling I might get those brand new as well.

Jul 23, 2012

samueljay said:
Just for a bit of fun, I thought I'd ask around to see what people would recommend as my next lens. You can see the lenses I currently own below I was going to get the 85mm ƒ/1.2L USM II, however I have been thinking lately that the 50mm might have me covered for a while... Any suggestions are welcome! Budget is around $2,500 Go nuts! And thank you in advance!

The 85 f1.2L or 135 f2L provide results you just can not get from any zoom contains the same focal length. My preference is the 135, but you should evaluate both.

135 f2 1/5,000 @ f2

samueljay said:
Also worth noting that 300mm was one of my favourite lengths on film, and I'd love to have that focal length, however I don't think I'll be able to afford the ƒ/2.8 version, is the ƒ/4L still a good lens?

On the 5D3, the 300 f4 is very good, very fast focusing and provides excellent results and better reach than with a 200mm. With your budget, you could get both the 135 and 300 and greatly enhance your kit.

300 f4 1/3,200 @ f4

I loved the results from the 300 f4, but just last week I picked up a used 300 f2.8L IS and am selling the f4 (on eBay this week). With the new 300 f2.8L IS 2 out there are a lot of good used lens opportunities out there right now.

Jul 23, 2012

@Videoshooter

it was the bit...

@HewhoShoots
I think they're a waste of money if you spend over a couple hundred bucks.

..that got me. I would say the polar opposite is true. They ARE a waste of money if you spend less than at least a few hundred dollars.

Anyway, my opinions on the matter are well versed by now, no point repeating.

marekjoz · Jul 23, 2012

maddox said:
marekjoz said:

Grabbing FF means selling at least 15-85.

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Hi, why do you say I'll need to get rid of the 15-85. This is a fairly new lens (Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM)?

Because you are not able to use EF-S lenses on FF cameras. No matter what the construction of the new FF will be, it is physically impossible to make a proper use of an EF-S lens on a Canon FF camera (if the latter is to be compatible with other EF lenses of course

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wickidwombat · Jul 23, 2012

marekjoz said:
Although the research was not quite scientific , I've learnt something from this poll: people here can estimate the price of the new Canon gear quite accurate! Maybe it means, that Canon has done it's market research quite good as well

or it means we are fast learners from the punishing prices of late
except for the 40mm f2.8 that is that little gem is worth the $200 easy

adhocphotographer · Jul 23, 2012

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sigh!

Videoshooter · Jul 23, 2012

Way to go to town on everything I wrote Axilrod. Perhaps one reply/quote, rather than 3, would have been sufficient?

My point is that the OP doesn't know what lens he wants. For well under his budget of $2000, he can test out all the focal lengths he is considering, (35mm, 50mm, and 135mm) and see which focal lengths he enjoys working with. Then if he wants, he can upgrade.

If he knew he wanted a 50mm, or a 35mm, or a 135mm, and he is willing to fork out the cash, then sure, dive right in with an L lens. But I don't see the point in diving in headfirst without trying out the focal lengths first.

Alternatively, he could rent all three of the 50mm 1.2L, 35mm 1.4L and 135mm 2.0L for a few days and see which he prefers before laying down the cash.

peederj · Jul 23, 2012

I'll have my RX100 Tuesday. My first non-Canon in 10 years. Sony hit this out of the park, with the only thing really annoying me being the lack of 1080/24p. Why they won't allow the video to run *slower* boggles the mind.

wickidwombat · Jul 23, 2012

syder said:
wickidwombat said:

been using the 600mm f4.5FD... I've also noticed this video stuff is HARD

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These two statements are related... What are you filming with a 600mm lens on an aps-c camera (effectively making a 960mm lens)? Birds?

85mm on aps-c is close to 125mm FF - which is a fairly standard length for close ups. I've been up to 200mm when filming events from the back of a hall, but at 600 you'll need static shots and to be somewhere around f16-22 to get your subject in focus... At 600mm on a 60D at f16, if your subject (a bird maybe?) is 50 feet away from you, depth of field is just over a foot. And given how quickly birds move, maintaining focus will be extremely hard. If the bird is only 20 feet away your down to about 2 and a half inches in focus...

If you're new to video I'd suggest trying some more reasonable focal lengths and subjects first... Wildlife videography is about a tough as it gets - tracking big cats making a kill is about as far away from a controlled studio setup where you can have multiple takes as possible. And this is a place where having shallow depth of field from a DSLR(as opposed to a videocamera with a 1/3 inch sensor) only makes life harder.

shooting archers firing arrows on full frame not crop so its 600mm so dont want to be too close to the angry end

because i was setup somewhat downrange but well off to the side out of the line of fire

i was shooting with a 5D on the 600 on one tripod with heavy duty gimbal and the 70-200 on another tripod next to it for wider shots

I think is have some decent footage though its not going to be mind blowing good like most of the video stuff all the people that know what they are doing put out but hopefully it will work

arioch82 · Jul 23, 2012

unfocused said:
Thanks. I thought I heard something about a master flash. Interesting.

yeah she says that you can attach a master flash in order to control other units (i'm italian too)

unadog · Jul 23, 2012

Mt Spokane Photography said:
Since then, every DSLR has video and all are limited to 30 minutes at the most, thanks to the European Union and their tax schemes that heavily penalize any HD Video that is longer.

The Canon T4i will automatically start a new file and continue shooting at the end of the 29:30. I would assume that, going forward, all Canon cameras will have this feature, so that the 30 minute limit isn't much of an issue.

It also has a sensor heat warning, before it gets so hot that it has to shut down.

Michael

Jul 22, 2012

Canon Eos M hands on

dr croubie · Jul 22, 2012

I've had that too, the AF just stopped responding, switching to MF didn't work, then some combinations of power off-on and un-remounting the lens makes it work again.

But that was on my EOS 3, I just figured there was some bug with that, given that it's a 14 year old camera with a 2 month old lens.
Never had the problem with my 7D, although i've barely used it on my 7D much, it's made for FF/street more than crop. (Meanwhile, I should get my first processed films back some time this week, to see how 'street' it really is)

Ryan708 · Jul 22, 2012

Kathode-Ray said:
I noticed this as well. I also see it when I have my 70-200 f/4 fully zoomed-in to 200 on my 60D and there's something bright like blue sky in the frame; even at f/4.0 you can see the texture of the focusing screen. The standard Ef-A screen is quite bright, but also a bit grainy indeed.

I now switched from the Ef-A to the Ef-S screen, and it's much better. This screen gives you a bit darker viewfinder, but in return you get much better contrast and it shows the actual bokeh better. It's more easy to manually focus with this screen, which would be an advantage with the Samyang lens. If you use it with a wide aperture lens like 1.4, the viewfinder still has plenty of light.

Ray

How much was the focusing screen and how hard to install/how much was installation. I have thought I might like to add one to my 60d

Ryan708 · Jul 22, 2012

Thanks for all the advice guys! I want a FAST lens, and I want something wider than my 50, And I want autofocus, and I am poor. haha. I think I will be giving the siggy a go sometime soon. Sounds like I should get a new one so I can make sure I get a good copy. Nowhere local stocks this lens near me, so I cannot give one a try in the store. Thanks for all the help guys!

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