I Just picked up one at BB on last friday.

Hi !

With entry level mirrorless info out let's start sharing our thoughts about next possible announcements

There has been a lot of rumors and chatter so you can post your ideas or info here.

I've seen info about 70D moving up to 7D level, 7D moving to FF, 70D moving to FF etc. There was some sort of info that high MPx body is in testing (NI) - 47 MPx body with 5D Mk III-like housing (body)...

What do you think ?

The Giga T Pro from Hähnelt will do what you want, and more. But costs around 60 €.
Its programmable.

Cheers

I definitely enjoyed the exchange of opinions we had in this thread! Also glad to see, that we are back in "civilized discussion territrory".

Now that the specs are "inoffically" out, we can all move over to the new thread:
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=8162.msg149456#new

victorwol said:

Vera nice! So what was your setting on the focus? Did you choose the points are you let the camera auto track it? Also was in AI or track mode?

Thanks

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For inside shots (bottom two) I used:
TV 1/1250s
Auto ISO
AI servo
Case 4
Single point selection with 4 point expansion
AI servo 1st image priority set to equal
AI servo 2nd image priority set to focus

For outside shot (first image) I used:
AV
ISO fixed (200 or 400)
AI servo
Case 6
61 point auto switching with first point selected.
ITR on

I suggested this being a way forward for the 1D body a few years back... Essentially differnet sensor units that fit into different body types to give a flexible professional system. Different sensor size/ISO/AF performance combos, large grip style body or smaller non grip style body

thebowtie said:

There's no point speculating / pontificating on what Canon should / could do - unless you work for Canon, and then that forum should not be visible here.

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But there is - from a purely consumer perspective, it's pretty interesting if the for example the 5d3 will drop $500 until x-mas or the 24-70ii will stay as expensive and so on...

thebowtie said:

I'm quite sure Canon have good methods for gathering market intelligence about what the market requires - how they execute that strategy is their business, not ours.

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I'm sure Kodak and Polaroid had excellent marketing gathering intelligence, too - or at least that's what they believed

Chuck Alaimo said:

So I'm really kind of wondering why canon would listen to you and drop prices? If they were in trouble, they would.

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I'm pretty sure that you're not correct - dslrs are no mobile phones where a real market exists with flexible prices that respond to customer demand. Canon can't simply axe $500-$1000 off the 5d3 w/o ruining their reputation and alienating their early adopters customer base. The only strategically sound option for them is to release a competitive 5d2 successor for the folk's that aren't prepared to spend $3500 yet - and I'm very interested in seeing how they perform this magic trick.

Picked up mine today. Best Buy in Portland, Oregon. I think they only had this one. Not part of the recall. Tomorrow's the day I'll play with it.

LetTheRightLensIn said:

Along these lines I've noted that my 5D3 has a bit worse vertical banding at low ISO than some otehr copies

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It might happen that banding becomes more or less apparent from shot to shot, because of its volatility (also it can be affected by shooting conditions, I think). Did you compare several images or just one?

I agree marekjoz, the 1DX has better overall contrast and I like the skin tones better from the 1DX vs the D4.

Interesting comparison here with the 24-105 lens...

http://www.juzaphoto.com/article.php?l=en&article=46

Hmm. Not bad.

Michael_pfh said:

Great pics!

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Thank you.

Menace said:

Thank you for sharing.

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No problem.

candyman said:

I read your article. Thank you for sharing some real life experience with 1D X. Great shots!

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Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

johle said:

Radiating said:

I keep seeing people posting about how they are dissatisfied with the 5D III price. Lets just look at the numbers:

Canon 5D Mark II intro price: 300,000 Yen
Canon 5D Mark III intro price: 270,000 Yen

Canon has always been a very rigid company with it's introductory pricing and has always priced successive products at the exact same price as previous generations, adjusted for inflation for the last 20 years. Their pricing has been so extremely consistent it deviates from the inflation rate in Japan less than a fraction of a percent.

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Unfortunately, people tend to compare prices over time without adjusting for inflation.

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That is adjusted for inflation... In Japan their inflation rate is something like -0.5% compared to the U.S.'s 2%.

canon816 said:

Mt Spokane Photography said:

I replaced my 5D MK III with a 1D MK IV and re-purchased a 5D MK II.
It all comes down to which features you value.
If you like AF at f/8, a focus point that lights up, etc the 1D MK IV might work better for you.

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Thanks for responding. Were there any reasons that you really didn't like the 5DIII other then the two you mentioned?

I don't need f/8 focus as I generally use fast primes and don't like the results of a 2x converter.

Any other reasons you made the big decision you did? Thx...

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If you are shooting wildlife, the 1.3 crop and the f/8 allows you to put a TC on. A 400mm f/5.6 lens plus a 1.4 TC gives you a 728mm equivalent. This is much less expensive than a 800mm lens, and for me, much easier to use.
I also do low light theater photography, and the inability to see the AF point in low light makes the camera almost useless in that situation. The 1D MK IV is not a good in low light, but you can see to focus, which actually translates into more keepers. I'll likely use my 5D MK II in low light, its center point AF in low light is supurb and fast.

Neuro, has a good explanation.
I might add that there are times when having more pixels in a image (higher resolution) is a noticible advantage.
For example a image with a extreme amount of detail like a landscape image, or a large group of people. The downside is that it takes more computer resources and time to edit a image. The saved file size of a image is much smaller than the uncompressed file size when its being edited. A D800 might take close to 200mb in some cases.
Editing a 18 MP image is much faster,

Also, you need to factor in import duty and taxes, often they bring it very close to the UK price. I was wary, but did go for a grey import in the end, going with DigitalRev and got the MkIII, with battery pack and spare battery for £500 less than retail. During the buying process, they state that any duty will be charged direct to them and from their reputation, I was more confident about their warranty. The downside though, which I didn't factor in, was the ability to claim back a tax refund at the end of year, but that would depend on how much I sold and how much gear I bought anyway. The year before last, I was able to claim back a few hundred, last year it worked out I had to pay an extra couple of pounds.

Goodman!

neuroanatomist said:

Should be simple - its designed to be user replaceable, the new screen will come with a replacement tool.

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Yeah, it looks simple enough. How about the mirror? Cleaning it shouldn't be that bad, I'm guessing.

Right now, all investments are risky. The worldwide situation is volatile, and stocks (all of them) may drop like a rock, or if things stabilize, they may hold or edge up a little. It really all comes down to investor confidence.
Nikon seems less able to handle any sort of a recession, while Canon has a wide enough product range to be somewhat more stable. I'd stay away from both of them, but then I'm retired and not willing to take big risks.
Both Canon and Nikon have been extending rebates month after month, and this is the high season for camera sales. I think that is telling us something.
BTW, I really do hope you win your bet.

The aspect ratio of the rear lcd appears to be 3:2 as well. It would almost certainly be 4:3 if the G1X sensor was used.

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RunAndGun said:

Using it on the 5DMKIII isn't difficult, but it will take longer than the fully automatic session on something like a MKII AND it will take longer than their manual suggests(at least on zooms). Granted I was running with the "tight" tolerance set, but it took over 20 minutes to do my 70-200 v2 on my 5DMKIII vs. about 10 on my 5DMKII.

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Did you find much difference with the 70-200II after running FoCal Pro?

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Understand that every lens and every body is different. Sometimes tolerances cancel, and sometimes they oppose and the mismatch gets worse.
The only lens I owned (of 15) that required "0" AFMA on all my bodies was my very old and well worn 300mm f/4L.

My biggest issue with the D800 was the shortage of Nikon lenses that could take advantage of the 36mp. I've been so use to the wide array of really good Canon lenses that it came as a bit of a suprise when I started hunting for a Nikon equivalent to the 24-105mm L, and my 100-400mmL.
Nikon does have the excellent 14-24, the 24-70mm, and the 70-200mm lenses, and their 85mm f/1.4 is supurb. For non super telephoto lenses, it starts to go downhill rapidly from there. I can live with the noisy high ISO by pouring on the NR, there is, afterall, a lot of resolution to trade off with NR.
The D800 also has some better features focus points that light up, f/8 autofocus, and others. Its just a evolution of the D700. It is a great camera and deserves much of the alocades, but I really do not see it as a game changer.
In the final analysis, it was the lens situation that caused me to sell it, not the body itself. Nikon needs to expand its lens development. It got into a hole when producing only DX bodies and needs to claw its way out. At the current rate, they are not likely to catch Canon, but they will have 2-3 lenses that are better while Canon has a ton of lenses better than their counterparts.

Per request I was asked to post when the camera arrived: The Canon EOS 1D X on which I put a deposit with Keeble & Shuchat Photography (http://bit.ly/Mwykvo) back in 2012 March 17 with the help of Garry Cohane (http://bit.ly/Mq1xK7) arrived, along with extra batteries and a 2nd charger on 2012 Jul 19. The GP-E1 GPS unit is still on back order.

I hope someone finds this helpful.

chongo (Landon Curt Noll - see my @landonnoll twitter feed for details and camera updates) /\oo/\

Robert White are selling the EF 17-40mm f4.0 L USM Lens for £486.00 incl. VAT (seen via http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk).

I don't know if this is a mis-pricing as it is over £100 cheaper than the going price in the UK. Might be worth a look if you're in the market for this lens, I believe that they're pretty reputable (usual disclaimers )

eosbit said:

Rocky said:

Mr.Pink said:

Here is leaked photos of Canon mirrorless

EF-M mount,22mm STM lens

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The front element looks way too small for a retro-focus 22mm lens. The length of the lens is thicker than the body. assuming the body is about 22mm ( body thickness of NEX). Therefore the 22mm must be a retro-focus lens. Also if the body thickness is 22mm, then the lens mount looks like is about 80mm. That is a lot bigger than the EF mount (65 mm). Also the lens says EF_M. This term is created by one of our poster. Does he really have a ESP??? I think some one created the picture. I do not believe it is the real thing.
The name Mr. Pink sound too close to MR. Plank

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Err.. the outer diameter (filter size) is only 43mm. It says so. Nowhere near 80mm This is a lot smaller than an EF lens.

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Thats not the outer diameter, thats the filter thread size, which is the inner diameter of the depressed area around the front lens element. The filter thread size has nothing to do with the lens mount size, and therefor has nothing to do with the size of the sensor. I have a hard time believing they would call the lens EF-M, and not use the same bayonet mount as all other EF based lenses.

BTW, the EF bayonet mount itself is 54mm in diameter, not 80mm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_mount