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Can't wait for D20

thepancakeman said:
@pdirestajr - great shots! My "deadline" for the D20 is well passed and I went with the S100 instead, but after seeing these shots I still may want to pick up a D20. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks! I think I'm the only person that bought this camera. I don't use point & shoots often, so the D20 with it's added benefits made sense for me.
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Calumet tax free!

Just got an email that Calumet is offering tax free discounts on all Canon lenses & Speedlights in addition to the current instant rebates. Oh, and free shipping.

Pretty good offer till June 2nd. Just thought I'd pass it on to anyone who might have missed it.

I'm in the US, not sure what the deal is worldwide as it was a Memorial Day email.

D800 dpreview

KeithR said:
psolberg said:
The sensor is A+++ 8)

At low ISO.

In every other respect the 5D Mk III is equal to, and usually better than, the D800, which is why the Canon is the better all rounder.

The D800 really is a one (or being charitable, maybe two - landscape, maybe studio) trick pony.

not really. the 5DIII could be called the 1 trick pony as well since all it really has over the D800 is a few very high ISO levels which are mostly too noisy for most people's standards and a mere 2 fps ( and just 1fps over 1.2 cropped mode). that is good for some sport shooters (but it is no 1Dx/D4) but not really state of the art for landscape, studio, portrait and wedding which is a huge market and who the D800 is targeting.

ultimately if you shoot landscapes, wedding, studio, portraits the D800 is the better all rounder because:
-offer far more crop flexibility (big deal for wedding portrait)
-offers far better resolution for large prints (huge deal to wedding/portrait/studio/landscape)
-offers far better dynamic range and cleaner shadows and to preserve whites (big for weddings/landscape)
-offers uncompressed hdmi out which has greater editing latitude (great feature for nature videographers with an eye for broadcast quality)

so as usual, it all depends on what you shoot. if you shoot sports, the 5DIII is ok. But if you're serious it is too slow. The way I see it is that the 5DIII is like jack of all trades but master of none. Unless you shoots sports and landscape combined (and the market for that is nearly zero) that tradeoffs of the 5DIII just don't make much sense. Nikon selected a more reasonable approach IMO. instead of making a camera that doesn't excel at any one thing beyond the others ( like the 5DIII), they looked at one market (wedding/portrait/studio/landscape) and gave them the best full frame dslr money can buy with acceptable trade offs to yield benefits available nowhere else. 8) If canon had done that, I'd still shoot canon because that is what the 5DII was. The 5DIII changed the formula and tried to be a D700 which never did that well.

ultimately the 5DIII tries to please everybody but in doing so, it was held back from being the best at any one thing.
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RAW vs JPEG debate in the light of 5DIII improvements

lexonio said:
Well I wasn't initially saying: "I SHOOT JPEG! (we should make such a t-shirt as well btw) PROVE ME WRONG!", it's just that I'm so used to using Lightroom, and since I didn't have any important work to do, I shot JPEG since LR didn't support mkIII RAW at the time, and I wasn't specifically disappointed with the outcome. But I switched from T2i to 5DmkIII, so the lack of disappointment may have been due to this quite substantial fact :P

I just wanted to hear what you guys think, since I value the opinion of CR's community. Since, well, the site is awesome, the community's awesome and people taking part in discussions are awesome as well.

Sorry for abundance of positive emotions, I'm still thrilled by my MKIII :<

Sorry if you thought my post was directed at you ... not if you thought it was, but it wasn't :) It was a general comment :)
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Examples showing HTP working with RAW files - 5D III

neuroanatomist said:
Tcapp said:
If HTP reduces the iso by a stop, does that theoretically mean that we can shoot at iso 25? Set it to L (iso 50) and use HTP? If it works as you all say it does, shouldn't it be possible to make it work for us as iso 25? (just curious if it would work / be an effective tool. No intentions of actually doing it!)

No - when you enable HTP, the lowest ISO the camera allows you to select is ISO 200 (shot at ISO 100).

Ah! Gotcha.
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Official Discontinued List

vtphotopro said:
Why does the canonusa.com site still list the 580 EX II if it is discontinued?

I guess it's meant to be nice to Canon retailers and let them sell their 580ex2 stock at higher price than they could for an "old" product. But of course the writing was on the wall when the 600rt was released, though the 5d2 is produced along the 5d3 for a longer while.
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Nikon D3200 is likely to be the real market threat

KeithR said:
x-vision said:
Why should I be overpaying - so that Canon can make more money off me???
Correct. Welcome to capitalism.
How is that a good deal for me, the buyer?
It isn't, nor is it intended to be. Welcome to capitalism.

I didn't buy my 5D2 until it was available for about 60% of its original suggested retail price. I will do the same with the 5D4 (the 5D3 not being a worthwhile upgrade for me). Welcome to consumer power. ;)
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How about this strobist set up?

PeterJ said:
Drizzt321 said:
I'm not sure you can stack ETTL cables, or chain them like you would need for this. It'd be an interesting experiment though, although it'd cost you a bit of money for the ETTL cables you'd cut apart and solder. Anyone want to sponsor me? I'd need a couple of Canon speedlites, as I only have 1 right now.
Classic shot by the OP ;D. You wouldn't be able to stack ETTL cables, they are an SPI like interface where you have a a master / slave type arrangement. When the master (the camera) sends the commands to the slaves (flashes) they would all try to respond at the same time. When you want to stack that kind of interface you normally need a seperate chip select type line to force the slaves into a high impedance which Canon flashes don't allow for from my reading.

Only way I think would be a microcontroller that sat between all the flashes and the camera and actually interpreted and tried to respond intelligently to the requests, like maybe firing a pre-flash from all flashes for metering but then only returned metering information back from the central one so the camera thought it was dealing with a single unit.

Good to know, and kinda what I thought. Now, if those were all the new 600EX (or using another RF ETTL system), he could easily have them all working over RF. Although...I wonder if there might be problems because they're so freaking close between the master/slaves?
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Patent: 600 f/4 DO IS & 400 f/2.8 DO IS

RLPhoto said:
With all these DO patents, We can expect an major unveiling of an entire new Canon DO line-up sometime in the future. Its would be a nice to have an more affordable versions of the larger longer lenses 300mms and up.

+1 on that. I wonder if 600mm f/4 DO would represent an alternative to the 500mm f/4, for wildlife -- in terms of weight and hand-holdability implied by the shorter physical length. ... and what would the price be, and how would Canon position this one along side the today's 600mm. And would it play well with a 1.4x....

All that aside, a shorter/lighter/cheeper 600mm f/4 would be wonderful, and give wildlife folks a new option.
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Which Canon Point and shoot??

Point-and-shoots are going to have a longer shutter lag. The S95/S100 is shorter than many others, but still noticeable. If you can stretch your budget to the S100, the shutter lag is shorter - I also find that the fast burst rate of the S100 allows me to get shots that other P&S cameras would miss.

FWIW, the Pentax Optio VS20 has about the shortest shutter lag of any pocketable P&S, and the Panasonic DMC-ZS10 and several of the Sony CyberShots are pretty short as well. But...none of those are going to offer the IQ you can achieve with the S100.
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The new flash:600EX(without RT)?

AFAIK, it uses the 2.4 GHz band, which is what's used for 802.11(g) wireless. Still, some countries restrict those frequencies to specific types of devices, and while it's possible that Canon could have sought regulatory approval for the RT flash in those countries, that approach was deemed more expensive than developing another version without the radio.
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