mr.ranger said:
RustyTheGeek said:
prestonpalmer said:
Of all the lenses I pull out of my camera bag, my 16-30mm f/2.8 is on my camera more often than any other. As a professional wedding photographer, I am at evening events twice a week. Have you considered getting one of these? Then you will have it when you upgrade to a full frame body.
Yep, big ditto! My 16-35 L lens is my favorite lens for both FF and Crop bodies.
thanks Rusty TheGeek for the Advise I'm planning to get the EX 580II and possibly a smaller slave flash. and yes i have looked at the 16-35L. seems to be a awesome lens.
Mt Spokane Photography thanks for the advise. but with flash will the 2.8 still not be fast enough?
This is where experience, practice and personal style determine the answer to your question. IMHO, in a real world party scenario, two stops of light (2.8 vs 1.4) in the lens can either make all the difference or not so much. It just depends how you want to shoot, what DOF you can accept/work with and/or what ISO is acceptable. In low light, it's common to expect that expensive and exciting BAA (Big Ass Aperture) lens to be a cure-all, but in reality it will extremely limit what is in the focus plane at f/1.4 and nothing stops blur except more shutter speed which the aperture only partially helps you achieve. (Don't forget the Exposure Triangle!) So, how do you sacrifice/regain your DOF? Change the aperture (+/- DOF/focal plane), shutter speed (+/- blur) or both? Or do you live with more noise and crank up the ISO a bit to help both DOF/Blur? I do a little of it all to vary the way the shots turn out and how I plan to "fix" them later in post. In candid photography, you are often shooting multiple people or little groups laughing, moving and almost never lined up to all be in focus. And you aren't shooting a dark city skyline on a tripod. So don't expect a 1.4 aperture to provide you with a lot of wonderful in-focus/well-lit-in-the-dark people shots. It just ain't gonna happen! At a 1.4 aperture, you will likely see eyes in focus and ears blurred. That means that the person next to them will likely be soft if they are an inch or two forward or back. 2.8 is much more forgiving than 1.4 in this respect. I also keep my eyes peeled for higher levels of available light in the area like windows, lamps, neon, stage lights, campfires, moonlight, etc. A subtle fill flash will help slightly improve the focus and shadows by stopping the movement at the end of the shutter (assuming you use 2nd curtain) which allows a little tighter aperture setting to get more acceptable DOF. In low light you don't need a lot of flash, you need it well diffused and well shaped so it blends in. Bouncing it, letting the diffuser scatter it, whatever it takes. In addition, if you are at an ambient light level that only f/1.4 will allow you to work with, you probably won't be auto-focusing well and will have to manually focus most of the time unless you have a flash with focus assist. At this point, you are on the edge of getting good photos at all. You will need to go to Manual settings and do a lot of multiple exposures to hopefully get a few non-blur shots. It's possible but it will be a challenge.
Again, good luck and HAVE FUN WITH IT. It will be less stressful and more fun if you practice a lot before the actual event!! Practice shooting and practice fixing the shots in post so you know your setting limits that can be "fixed" later. Take insurance shots with the flash and camera on auto "P" if you have to but then change your settings and go for the creative shots that will likely be a lot more interesting and impressive. Otherwise, you might as well just take a point and shoot and provide basic safe pictures like anyone else.