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Will the 5DIII require 1 or 2 wireless receivers for my 580EXII

UOduck23 said:
Like many of you I'm waiting for my tax return to splurge on the 5DIII (upgrade from my 40D). I recently bought the 580EXII speedlite and have been strictly using it mounted to the shoe on my camera. I'd like to start using my flash off camera and this is where I need some help. I think that the 5DIII and the new 680 speedlite will be able to transmit/receive from one another without any additional hardware such as two pocket wizards.

My question is if I get the 5DIII with its transmitting capabilities, will I be able to buy a single pocket wizard to act as a receiver for my 580EXII or is that technology proprietary to Canon? I bought my speedlite on sale for $400 and it would be cheaper for me to just buy one pocket wizard but if it's not compatible I think I'd be better off just selling the 580EXII and paying the difference to get the 680.

Thanks in advance for the insight/advice,

Omid

The new wireless flashes and transmitters can control flashes by radio or by infra red for older flashes. But, you must mount one on your camera shoe (or with cord).

The camera body itself does not include a flash or radio to control external flashes, just the firmware to operate them.

There are third party units, but every time a new body is released, they seem to need firmware updates, so you need to verify that they work before buying one.

When the 5D MK II was released, for example, third party flashes were not compatible, including some pocket wizard models. Most were eventually updated.
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Video of 5D Mark III shutter sounds in all modes (and also 5D2 for comparison)

unten44 said:
Stephen Melvin said:
That's the same video as before. ;)

Question about silent shooting mode: is the shutter release slower in silent shooting, or is it the same speed? Notice any difference in the delay?

Oops, I updated the video link. :)

Yes, the shutter is slower (3fps max) in silent shooting mode. (expand the shutter section at http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/technical/inside_canon_eos_5d_mark_iii.do for more info)

Once its focused, Canon specs it at 59 milli-seconds, faster by a bit than the MK II. Its a larger mirror than the 7D, so it takes more power to move it, and it doesn't have a high voltage battery like the 1 series. Thats 0.059 seconds, pretty fast, but not instant. it is the same as the 40D, 50D, 60D, and 7D.

"Shutter and mirror The 5D Mark III shutter has a 150,000-cycle durability rating, the same as the 5D Mark II, but the shutter lag has been shortened, to 59ms in the new model from 75ms in the old .

The x-sync shutter speed, at 1/200, is the same as before. With Canon Speedlites, High Speed Sync above 1/200 is possible as well.

The mirror mechanism has been reworked to accommodate the camera's faster frame rate. The main difference is better stability - less bounce - when the mechanism is in the down position.

The improvements to the mirror, says Chuck Westfall, Technical Information Advisor at Canon USA, pave the way for two new quiet shooting modes. Called Silent Single and Silent Continuous, they reduce the amount of mechanical noise emanating from the camera in both single-shot and continuous shooting (the latter is restricted to 3fps when operating silently)."



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Crutchfield customer service - excellent

msdarkroom said:
I received a call from Jimmy at Crutchfield today. He called me to apologize for the mess of a situation that occurred yesterday and the day prior.

Background: I was erroneously told that my phone order for a 5DM3 was shipping out Tuesday and would arrive Thursday (which is now today). I received an email confirmation on Tuesday of the order and cancelled my very early preorder with Amazon. Yesterday I checked my Crutchfield order and it had not been processed yet. I called and was told that the 5DM3 that was pulled from inventory wasn't actually pulled from inventory and crutchfield did not know when I would get my item.
At this point a trumpet thundered, the skies turned 18% grey, and 6 locusts per second starting appearing.

Anyway. It was a fiasco and I was disappointed. I cancelled my order and went elsewhere (and received my 5DM3 this morning from the new vendor).

Today I received a call from Jimmy. I did not ask for a call or email a complaint or anything like that. Crutchfield called me, to apologize. The 5DM3 is obviously a very hot item and places are selling out very quickly. Things like what happened to me are painful and shouldn't happen, but people are human and it is what it is. The call was a nice gesture. Apology accepted.

Kudos to Crutchfield for going out of their way to call me. Jimmy did not know that I received a camera from a different vendor and was going to do all that he could to get me one asap. Also, everybody that I spoke with at crutchfield was very well spoken, polite, and understanding. They seem like genuinely nice people to me. Also, they can clearly sell every 5DM3 they get in stock and don't need me for the sale. They went out of their way to right a wrong. This rarely happens these days. Good for them.

Try calling Amazon and see if you can even understand whoever it is you speak with. Join an Amazon chat with a rep and it is often very clear that the typed response you receive is a cut and paste job.


I thought I'd share a positive customer service experience. I didn't end up making my purchase through Crutchfield but I will certainly be using them in the future.

Enjoy your new toy ;)
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5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!

WilliamG said:
I'm definitely not as impressed by these high ISO shots as some other people. They look waxy, smeary, NR-ed to all heck if you ask me. The one shot a page back with the books was a prime example. At 25,600 it's clear all the detail of the ripped black book has been lost. And the daughter's classmate shot shows the same issue. All skin detail etc is lost.

*sigh* I really hope the ISO improvements over the MK II aren't all smoke and mirrors. I've not seen that many high-ISO shots that are that good, sadly. :(

I understand where you are coming from. The difference is not huge compared to 5d2. On the little girl's pic, her face was outside the dof (taken at f/5.6 @ 400mm); here hair however were within the DOF. The 5d3 sensor is an evolutiontionary change, not a radical one. The tech is basically the same with some tweaks. In terms of performance, the 5d3 IMHO should have been priced perhaps $700 ove rthe 5d2, not $1500. I think they are price skimming and when the "gotta have the new camera" crowd is sold, then perhaps we see some competative pricing.
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430EX II Going Out?

libertyranger said:
Thanks for the feedback. I bought a 430 EX II yesterday at my local photography shop. It looks great on my T3i. I'm am really liking it. I also ordered a diffuser on Amazon. It's a little cap. I'm shooting a wedding saturday as a backup shooter and I can already see how this flash is really going to help get some nice shots.

Also, I wanted to get a Gary Fong diffuser for the wedding but couldn't afford it at the moment. Anyone use on of those? They worth getting? The little diffuser cap I bought was only 11 bucks on Amazon :)

I use one indoors, and it actually works pretty well. Some love it, some feel you should bounce the flash. In the rooms I typically use it in, it works fairly well and gives good coverage without being overly harsh (unless you're VERY close up).
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Gutted! (5DMkIII Adorama Bundle)

Maui5150 said:
Point being blame the COUNTRY not the manufacturer.

While gas prices in the US have soared, most of that is really a devaluation of the currency, and not the price of gas. You can thank the Quantitative Easing for that.

The point with price of cameras in UK has to do with UK, corporate taxes, import taxes, etc. and if you look at the cost of most if not all durable goods that are imported, you will see that most, if not all are MORE EXPENSIVE.

Hogwash. A few years ago some of the supermarkets were selling Levi 501s for £30 instead of the £70+ that Levi's wanted them to charge. In US you can buy Levi's for....about £30. The likes of Tesco bought their stock from US and sold them in the UK and paid all the import duty etc.

Guess what happened?

Levi's banned Tesco etc from selling Levi's.

Canon are keeping an eye on what price the 5D mkIII is being sold at and take a dim view of discounting as they WANT to keep the price high.
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Do 5D Mark III raw files work with Lightroom 4 yet?

JR said:
Until the ACR 6.7 is released, I think if you guys convert your CR2 file to DNG when you import then into LR4 it should work. You can copy your original CR2 file somewhere else for future reference if required.

I have not tried this not having the 5DmkIII but it should work.

This does indeed work, have just done it. It does add an extra step to the workflow though so hopefully the upgrde won't be far off
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Need help to choose! mark 2 or mark 3?

Omg!!! Thank you so much. Soooo much!!!

You guy are the best!! These help me so much to make my decision!

I live in USA and i love video effect. I have full adobe master cs 5.5 and have a ton of plus-in so for the software part, I am very sure I am good. Also i know there will be no stock for mark 3 for awhile but I can wait
Things I am worried now is to pick a good lens and need to pick the right glidecam. Not sure about lightning , I may just use outside light haha !!
I think mark 3 is way to go. Thank you for helping me!!!

I will apply for a credit card that will help me low down 500 on mark 3


Please suggest which Len and glidecam should I pick up? Thank from bottom of my heart!
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D800 high ISO noise samples

psolberg said:
It's a precision tool better used to extract detail and dynamic range and ramming that high ISO as if it was a sports camera is the enemy of all that is holy. what a waste!

It's absolutely nothing of the sort - the point of the D800 is to be an all-rounder (as well as being one in the eye for the "too many pixels = noise" muppets) - a camera that will do everything from low ISO high detail images, to sport/wildlife (where the AF and croppability will play well) and right up to high ISO work, which it has proven its capability in.
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Difference between 60d and 7d video quality

babarasghar said:
well I didn't understand ur point regarding less banding noise in 60D,T2i n T3i than 7D .... can u explain this ...

In theory if you shoot low ISO raw and push it really far there will be more pattern noise in a 7D's shadows than in a Rebel's, if I understand correctly, which I might not. It's a very trivial difference, doesn't matter at all in practice.
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