How much DR is enough?

Orangutan said:
3kramd5 said:
Orangutan said:
Keith_Reeder said:
Orangutan said:
That's not my experience: according to DxO, my 70D has 11.6EV of DR, yet I frequently encounter problems in landscape where important highlights are blown out, and important shadows clipped in the same image.

And which Raw converter were you using?

Usually Lightroom, but sometimes DPP. Not much difference between them. I'm not sure that matters, though: the histogram tells me I'm at least 3-5 stops from full coverage of the scene DR. (I sometimes block a highlight area of the scene to see where it spikes on the histogram, then watch the spike move as I change exposure)

You mean in-camera, yes? If so, it is JPEG-based, and not representative of the full capability.
Correct, but not as relevant as it might appear, for two reasons: (1) even though it's JPEG based, the JPEG histogram is (from my experience and what I've read on the web) about 1 stop different from the RAW histogram; i.e., if the JPEG is clipped by about 1 stop, I can probably recover it in post, and I take this into account in my exposure settings. (2) I've also bracketed and examined RAW histograms after the fact. In deep forest, when exposing for the shadows, I'd need to take a second frame 3-5 stops darker to keep the back-lit leaves (or splashing water) from being blown-out in the RAW files. Of course, this depends on the angle of the sun (time of year/day) and other factors, but I've tried it several times with fairly consistent results. YMMV.

I will also say, that I have yet to get the full DR of a male wood duck in full light: I have several wood duck photos that are clipped at both ends of the histogram.

Sure. The histogram is a functionally useful tool, I’m just suggesting it can’t be used to quantify the dynamic range capability of a camera (even if it were RAW it couldn’t). It’s clear now that’s not what you were saying.
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This Symbol On Your Camera Explained! What Are Film Plane Indicators

Antono Refa said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
For panoramic images, the critical point is the nodal focus point in the lens, the focal plane is not involved.

Can the nodal focus point in the lens be found with no reference to the focal plane? If so, how?
No, it varies for every type of lens design, for a simple design, it is where the aperture is, but that is seldom the case.
You can find it experimentally, its seldom if ever marked on a lens, it moves on zooms.
https://www.panoramic-photo-guide.com/finding-the-nodal-point.html
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Sandbag suggestions for a light stand?

kat.hayes said:
Do you think 10lbs will be enough to put on the light stand to make sure the stand with iPad doesnt get tipped over? OR should I consider 15lbs?
You're going to have to figure that one out for yourself. It depends on what conditions you're exposing it to. If you're outdoors on uneven ground with high, gusty wind and lots of 5 year olds with their dogs, it's going to be a different risk level to working in the studio with an assistant photographing a toaster. Trust and apply your common sense and knowingness.

-pw
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Sony a73 Review and Playlist | Dustin

Talys said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
Talys said:
Thanks for another great review.

I've only used this camera in the store, but what I noticed right away was the EVF. It's such a step down from the A9/A7R3, that I don't think I would choose this model, between it and the "R". Then again, I'll freely admit that the VF is a critical part of my decision making, and, along with AF speed, remains one of the key reasons I haven't been convinced to switch to mirrorless.


AF performance is, in my opinion, no longer a reason to not go mirrorless. I got better tracking results with the a73 than I have with any DSLR.

So, first of all, most of the time that I need fast autofocus is birding, and that's the lens through which I'm making these comments (sorry, pun intended :))

There's autofocus tracking, and autofocus speed, which aren't the same thing, though. I agree that the tracking capability is great, but you have to get autofocus in the first place.

I haven't tried an A73, but I did have an A9 for a couple of days (and an A7R3 for over a month). Using the 100-400 GMaster, the speed to go from near to infinity is horrible. If you defocus, then try to focus on a hovering hummingbird, for example, you'll never catch it in the second or two that you have. Now, if you throw on a 1.4x extender -- which his the only solution to go higher than 400mm -- the autofocus speed is just dismal.

Take a 1DXII, throw on a 100-400LII and a 1.4x extender (which, in my opinion, when using extenders, is the best AF speed camera currently on the market), and the autofocus speed just blows it away. Throw on the Sigma 150-600 (which will require an MC-11 adapter on the Sony), again, a huge difference.

I actually had the 100-400 GM + 1.4x extender beside a Nikon D850 with the 200-500 at the same time while at a birding spot. The performance difference was just night and day -- it's hard to overstate. The AF speed at 400 and 400+extender on full frame is pretty important, IMO, and it's still not there, yet, in my opinion. There is the additional problem of the VF being blacked out while you raise it to you, making pointing the camera at as small subject quickly at telephoto lengths sometimes challenging (by the time you see anything and the AF starts to engage, the subject has moved). As a result, you need to start at a lower focal length, track it, and then crank the zoom -- which is rather noobish and misses some great shots :)

The problem with autofocus tracking with birding is that it's almost useless. You want the bird to fill up as much of the frame as possible, for reproduction clarity. But then, most birds are moving so fast that the tracking has no chance, and anyways, you only have it for a brief time.

Thanks for your opinion. The A7III is an very good body, indeed.
For birding (used with 600 II, (w/Wo 1.4x III extender) & Metabones V Adapter) my combo is not the best to use. Also on my 400 DO II. On the 100-400 II ist works satisfying, but really not as good as I wanted.
Af "pumping" to get sharp, and the loose of the AF-sharpness, when there are even just small bird movements did not satisfy me. In shots and in video. Also, changing settings takes some time on the A7III...

Compared, the 5D IV is much better working on genuine Canon lenses.
On the other hand, using the A7III on the Sony 70-200 2.8 GM (rented from my Grandgrandson) AF performance of the A7III is incredibly fast and relyable on fast passing birds.

So, I hope there will be a chance for AF improvemts on Canon MLS bodies, as you can see on the A7III, when using it on genuine Sony lenses (maybe not on the 100-400, but on the 70-200 definitively).

But I will keep it, as the MLS system works super on my DP slider for timelapse. And I´ll have to work hard to get just 10% of the experience like Mr. Heck frome timestormfilms has. :)

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long exposure effects on sensors

Just for clarification. I was using a 7d2 and the longest exposure was about 40 mins at Iso 400 with a couple of shorter ones as well. And yes. The noise was pretty horrendous as you would expect on a crop sensor camera like that. It certainly is not what I would call a dedicated astro rig. Sounds like sensor damage won't be an issue though so thanks for the help. The noise I will just have to live with.
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Canon's First Full Frame Mirrorless Won't Have the Exact Same Sensors as the EOS 5D Mark IV. [CR2]

Re: Canon's First Full Frame Mirrorless Won't Have the Exact Same Sensors as the EOS 5D Mark IV. [CR

Cthulhu said:
3kramd5 said:
Cthulhu said:
3kramd5 said:
rrcphoto said:
Canon Rumors said:
The 30.4mp sensor (which we haven’t confirmed with certainty) will be “very different than what is found in the EOS 5D Mark IV”.

this stands to reason. Canon's been happily applying for WAY too many advanced sensor patents to not pull a rabbit out of a hat and skip a few EXMOR generations and catch up quickly.

Patents don’t necessarily translate into production, but didn’t they already essentially catch up (5D4)?

No

Please elaborate.

In the rare occasion where Canon comes within 1ev of sony, it still has less detail and sharpness.

What a load of garbage.
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LensTip Review: Sigma 70mm Art Macro

NancyP said:
Arty said "I hardly need another macro lens" - Hey, I resemble than comment! :) I don't "need" another lens now (though I am eyeing the TS-E 24 v.II .....)

Some people who prefer primes may also like the 70 mm focal length for general work.

That is exactly why I got the lens. Sometimes a 100 mm lens is too long, even on full frame, and a 50 is too short. I think that 50 mm makes for a better general purpose focal length and is great for copy work, but 70 mm has advantages on full frame for some macro uses. The review on Lens Rentals has 70 on the short side, but there are advantages.
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The real limiting factor for megapixel count in sport bodys?

So far almost every sport camera kept the megapixel count to arround 20mp no matter if fullframe or aps-c.

Now with the 7d III slowly apporaching release im wondering what is actually limiting a sportsbody to go to higher megapixel counts.

Previously it was assumed that the megapixel count affects low light performance. The lower the megapixel count, and therefore the bigger the size of the photocytes, the better the iso performance.

Recently i came across some articles that discussed that the megapixel count only really affects the per pixel performance, but the overall iso performance of a picture, scaled to the same size, basicaly stays the same with increasing megapixels.

Thus it seems that the only limiting factor is data thoughput or perhaps sensor read speed?

Does anyone here have insight on this? could we, given current technology, however unlikly, see a 7d iii with 26 or 28 mp and about 12 fps while still providing an improved iso performance?

Canon Will Announce Their First Full Frame Mirrorless in 2018 [CR3]

Don Haines said:
What we do know about the mirrorless release is that no matter what the specs are, that according to internet logic, it will be inferior to Sony..... and whatever the mount is, it will be the wrong one.....

And somehow, despite the complainers on this forum, it will sell well and people will take great pictures with it...... just like every single Canon release in the last ten years.....

And because of this camera, people will leave Canon in droves, yet somehow their market share improves....

Does anyone else see the disconnect between the trolls and reality?

Wonder if the Dunning-Kruger effect has anything to do with it. The less you know the more it seems like magic is at work, magic that you can get out of a box.
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Could FF mirrorless tempt 'never-mirrorless' FF SLR folks with features?

3kramd5 said:
stevelee said:
All this is very theoretical to me, since I can't think of a reason I might be in the market for a new camera in the next five years or so. The exception would be a successor to my G7X II for travel, maybe even the III next year before a big trip. At present, neither the camera purchase nor the trip is planned, however.

I have no plans to buy a new camera, but I rarely do and that’s never stopped me :p

If I hadn't had some more responsibilities and commitments to come along for this summer, even though I hadn't planned a trip, I might be in Norway right now with my G7XII.

I had planned to buy a 16-35mm f/4 in early October for my birthday. A few weeks ago a high school classmate died suddenly and unexpectedly. On the way home from the funeral, I stopped by the Best Buy, and they had the lens in stock. Under the circumstances, I couldn't make waiting until fall to buy the lens make any sense, so I went ahead and bought it.

I certainly do impulse purchases, but I usually have some notion of something I am going to want, and right now nothing in terms of cameras or lenses occurs to me that I want or anticipate wanting.

OK, I did buy my first DSLR, a Rebel, as a complete impulse when I stopped at H. H. Gregg some years ago to look at TVs and washers and dryers. I'm sure I must have had some notion that I'd buy a DSLR some day. It wasn't a very good choice, but it was cheap and came with a couple not-so-great lenses, and it did let me know that I wanted to get a T3i when that came out. That camera served me well for many years.
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Nikon 180-400 vs Canon 200-400

I would be very surprised if the lens copy variation in a prime of the quality of that of the 400mm DO II would account for the poor performance in the TDP tests - Canon's quality control is generally very good for L lenses and the newer consumer ones. Evidence for sloppy testing comes from the comparison of the 400mm DO II and 100-400mm II both at 560mm on the 7DII https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=962&Camera=963&Sample=0&FLI=1&API=1&LensComp=972&CameraComp=963&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=5&APIComp=1

Here, the 400mm DO II is much sharper than the 100-400mm II, opposite to that reported by TDP on the 5DSR.

I am surprised by the performance of the Nikkor at 550mm, and we need to see more analyses.
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