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Rocky · Mar 20, 2018

neuroanatomist said:
Rocky said:

neuroanatomist said:

Rocky said:

Until Canon fix the dark corner problem caused by short flange compact wide angle lenses (like EF-M 22/2), EF mount may be the only reasonable solution for the new FF mirrorless.

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I'm sorry, but I don't understand this 'dark corner problem caused by short flange compact wide angle lenses' that you mention.

EF-M 22mm f/2 @ f/2 (on APS-C): 1.66 stops of vignetting
EF-S 24mm f/2.8 @ f/2.8 (on APS-C): 1.92 stops of vignetting
EF 35mm f/2 IS @ f/2 (on FF): 2.23 stops of vignetting

Can you explain why you believe having less vignetting than similar lenses (on their intended sensor format) is a problem? ??? ??? ???

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Sorry, I do not have the other two lenses. The EF-M 22/2 is not bad after all. That is the only fast EF-M I got.

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Fair enough. Try the 24/1.4L II on FF – it has well over three stops of vignetting. But then, the M11-22 at 11mm wide open has about 3 stops, too.

Now I understand why Canon is having in camera vignetting correction for lazy people like me that does not shoot raw.

lexaclarke · Mar 20, 2018

That implies that the AA filter has some kind of intelligence behind it. It's not making up a transition between pixels, it's just dispersing the light less accurately.

Sensors with and without AA filters may technically have the same pixel count but the usable resolution you get out of them is different. Just like how putting a less sharp lens on the same body gives you less effective resolution. The pixel count may not change but how much perceivable detail there is absolutely does.

If we were talking about a lens, nobody would claim a softer lens is somehow capable of giving the same detail. If Canon made a lens with a special blurring element inside, everyone would call them crazy. But put a special blurring layer on a sensor and you want to say it's not just the same resolving power, but actually better?

Look, if you like AA filters, okay, cool, good for you I guess. We've had AA filters on cameras for years now and it's not stopped nice images being made. It's certainly good for lower resolutions and video. I wouldn't want to try to film 1080p video without an AA filter. But we're talking about 36mp, 42mp, even 50mp still images. I understand peoples' reluctance to move on in technology but I don't understand, like I literally don't see how it adds up, this idea that an AA filter is better.
AA filters were made as a band-aid to fix a problem. Resolution of digital sensors was too low to produce nice smooth gradients and it got confused by some really fine patterns. So we got weird pixelated curves and false colours. The crude solution to that was to just blur the whole sensor. Now we have sensors with high enough resolution to reproduce those gradients and fine details accurately. More accurately than film was ever able to do and we never had AA filters on film. The problem AA filters were invented to fix is no longer a problem.

I get that there are uses for sensors with AA filters. Like I said in a previous comment, I'm sure the 6D and 90D models will keep AA filters and the 1D, 5D and 7D will adopt them slowly. It's not going to be a total switch overnight. People will continue to have a choice for at least the next what, six years maybe? Maybe ten? But you can't tell me that AA filters are somehow better and more "honest" than a non-filtered sensor. I doubt you would claim that a sharp lens is more "dishonest" than a soft one.

Talys · Mar 20, 2018

degos said:
1. Autofocus that actually understands the scene. Imagine DPAF generating a depth map, determining that the subject is at 300 metres and decreasing whereas the background sky is at infinity. No more wandering off to focus on grey overcast!

This certainly is not the Sony, except with people. It's very good at recognizing humans and prioritizing focus on them and Eye AF is a wonderful feature. And you can even switch it off, if you don't want to prioritize people.

But for everything else, and I mean everything -- dogs, cats, birds, buildings, cars, trees, flowers, bugs, houses -- it's terrible. Mostly, it just grabs the nearest thing to you, whether it's a droplet of water or a blade of grass, and ignores the rest of the scene.

This isn't unique to Sony, of course. On Canon, I also always end up reverting to single point autofocus and selecting manually telling the camera what I want to focus on.

degos said:

2. EVF mode for the viewfinder to permit easier tracking of subjects when shooting in Live View ( for reduced vibration )

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If we're talking Sony, I get way more vibration on Sony than Canon, when take a photo, because on Canon, I can roll my index finger over the shutter button. On the Sony, the ridge around the shutter is raised so high that I have to jab at it and jostle the camera with ever shutter press.

On the subject of subject tracking, again, it's really good at humans. With my cat, dogs, or birds, it is hit and miss. Often, it shows a green square around the subject, but in fact, the animal is not in focus. If I change it to just a single point, the miss rate is much lower (as long as I keep it trained on the subject).

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3. Metering that understands colours beyond 18% grey. Why in 2018 do I have to keep using spot metering and the zone-system in my head to get a decent exposure, at the same time juggling shutter-aperture-ISO? Photographing an airshow is mentally exhausting, I thought technology was supposed to help me!

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I think Canon's evaluative metering does a superior job to the Sony multi-zone metering. Photographing things in the sky is a particular grump of mine, because the A7R3 seems incapable of metering correctly in blue sky (usually underexposing), even with a focus-linked spot metering, and the camera pointing right at the subject.

That said, Canon metering can be off too. It's really important to take test shots ahead of the action and see how many EV's metering is off by.

I both systems, I find the best way is to set shutter and aperture and use auto ISO, and just watch to ensure ISO is where I want it. That said, the Sony Auto ISO system (which you can use in aperture or shutter priority, too) made it very fluid to set minimum and maximum ISOs, as well as minimum shutter speeds.

It's not a feature I actually use, but I do appreciate it.

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Busted Knuckles said:

Canon, Nikon etc 1st duty is to their shareholders, their second is to..... oh wait there isn't a second.

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That's a little bit cynical. I'm pretty sure that there are a good number of employees in all of the companies that genuinely want to produce great camera equipment -- as well as help with shareholder return!

chrysoberyl · Mar 20, 2018

B&H will notify me when this lens is available and I will probably purchase it, unless it is over USD1000. If it has a relatively short throw and/or inaccurate manual focus, back it will go. The quality of AF is not a concern to me.

Quackator · Mar 20, 2018

applecider said:
I’m curious has anyone here (or anywhere) bought one of these?

I have, and I am still mad at Canon for what they (not) deliver.
Swallowed the bait "to integrate it into my network".
Hook, line and sinker came as I realized that instead Canon uses
this thing to integrate my network into their aftermarket ecosystem.

My idea was to put one of these in all of our studios plus one into
the office, offer clients offload capacities and central backup
while on site, and do so for our own productions as well.

Imagine my surprise as I learned that there is no way to access
the network drive as network drive, no file or folder operations,
no RAW processing...... and you can't just copy or move your
files via LAN.

You want to copy your files to another place? "Simply" hook an
external hard drive to your networked hard drive and then copy
your files to that via a cumbersome web interface.

Okay, then you might want to use it as an image tank for travelling?
Alas, the hard drive is no SSD, and thus not shockproof.
Backing up images to this device increases the risk of loss,
and the copy process is painstakingly slow. Also, it can't be
operated on batteries off grid.

This device is a major feck op in spite of what would have
been possible.

To be fair, there is one scenario where it shines:
Imagine you have elderly parents who aren't very computer
literate but have fast internet (chuckle) and know how to
operate their TV. You put one of these next to their TV, set
it up, create a Canon image gateway (CIG) Account for them
and go home. There you shoot pictures of cats and kids,
dump them to your own connect station and initiate sharing.
The next day (depending on file size, amount and internet speed)
your parents can switch on their TV and watch the pictures.

This could have been a great thing. Canon botched it.
Maybe these hackers turn that useless brick now into at
least a half decent NAS. Would deserve standing ovations.

syyeung1 · Mar 20, 2018

transpo1 said:
mb66energy said:

transpo1 said:

mb66energy said:

transpo1 said:

siegsAR said:

No one would think or expect Canon would put a very good 4K in a non top tier camera, ofcourse its an afterthought.
But a good one at that, its Canon's way of telling other brands AND the buyers that 4K(much more useful 4K) is coming
whether on the top of the line mirrorless(hello M5 Mk2) or other DSLR in the future.
I would call that non DPAF 4k a horseshit, I would assume its not impossible with Digic 8.

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Yes, agreed- it can’t be a technical hurdle, likely just a marketing decision to protect the 5D IV, etc. Why would they develop a new processor that can’t implement their best feature, DPAF, in 4K.

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It CAN be a technical hurdle - maybe not with the Digic 8 but with the sensor. And if it is just a problem of thermal management.

About 4k and my use of video: I would be happy to manage just small videos for teaching (physics, math) but I see (1) that it is alot of work to do good composition and lighting and (2) that this would be enough for my purposes in 640x480. So I see a very good HD video quality as "heaven" for my purposes and if a filmmaker has a good story Full HD is all what he/she needs.

I am very interested in that camera because I have some EF lenses and a set of older FD lenses like 1.4 50, 1.8 85, 2.5 135 and 3.5 50 macro which deliver good IQ on the EOS M classic but will be much more usable on the M50 with its EVF + flippy screen.

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Well, if that’s true, it would be very surprising that after all these years, Canon can’t solve the best management issue. They are an extremely conservative company, however, so this is not outside the realm of possibility. Still, I believe this has more to do with marketing and protecting their higher end line up.

Sounds like this might be the camera for you so by all means, buy it and enjoy!

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Maybe it a combination of different reasons: If you want to make a small camera with flippy screen thermal management is not that easy. If you make a 7D-emulation in mirrorless you have a beafier body made from metal which might act as heat spreader. In that case physics protects the mid/high end systems from the low end systems!

Thanks for the wishes - I was several times shortly before pulling the trigger for a 2nd SL2 but - now my 2nd camera might be the M50. Just waiting for a link via the digital picture to thank Brian for his good site for buying lenses (and not buying lenses which aren't better than the solutions I have).

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So, as we can see, it’s not a technical hurdle but a cost / marketing decision as suspected:

“The cost required to introduce [features like 4K] into cameras dictates the kind of features that we can introduce [in products of different classes]. 4K is important to offer in all market segments, and in the M50 we’ve achieved 4K at 25 fps, and that’s the best we can do at this time. We can’t introduce all of the features [in an entry-level camera] that we could in a higher-end model. Another point is that consumption of 4K footage in terms of devices to view 4K video – the penetration of those devices in the market, and their adoption, was a little faster than we expected.”

http://www.canonrumors.com/dpreview-interview-with-canon-execs-increased-competition-allows-us-to-level-up/

Still, hope you enjoy the camera if it fits your needs.

Everything is a marketing decision. Sony A7III is seriously crippled because Sony has proven than they can put a zillion AF points as well as close to unlimited buffer. Oh, and they could have put smartphone functions, and TV broadcast on their cameras too. If there is a market for it, I am sure they would have offered it.

vikaskundu · Mar 19, 2018

I didn't found no option to create separate thread so I am posting my question here itself. The Camera Connect app had been working just fine on my iPhone 7 when on iOS 10 however upon upgrading to iOS 11.3 now whenever I open the app it simply displays a blank screen on startup and crashes itself automatically after few secs. Any idea how to fix it guys?

Update: Just wanted to make an update real quick for as I have deleted and reinstalled the latest version of the app it has been working smooth again!

lexaclarke · Mar 18, 2018

scyrene said:
aceflibble said:

Canon's TS-E lenses died years ago and have never been remade.

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What do you mean? They just released some new ones.

I think that was sarcasm

AlanF · Mar 18, 2018

Dylan777 showed some very sharp BIF shots from the Sony RX10 IV (http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=19270.msg700232#msg700232 and following). It uses the same algorithm for tracking as does the A9 and A7RIII. The 220mm lens on the RX10 is equivalent to about 410mm in terms of resolution on the A7RIII or 600mm on the A9, based on pixel size. Has anyone else tried the RX10 IV?

AvTvM · Mar 17, 2018

mb66energy said:
- Tele-Zoom: Like to avoid changing lenses due to sensor dirt: EF 70-200 f/4 non-IS, used primarily as a convenient way to shoot focal lengths of 70 / 100 / 135 / 200 mm. I like to set a desired focal length and use the zoom afterwards like a prime.
- 200mm lens, compact with IS: only option is now the EF 70-200 f/4 IS with some shorter focal lengths available if needed.
If I cannot change my location, a zoom is welcome to make the right framing before composition to get the maximum sensor area of the wanted shot.
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Interesting. My usage of lenses is exactly opposite.

* I only buy and use primes if there is no zoom available .. mostly when i really want a faster lens than what is available in zooms (f/1.8, 1.4).

* i only use my zooms like a prime when i am focal length limited .. stuck at maximum or minimum focal length and no wide/longer (zoom) lens at hand.

hehehehehe ;D

sanj · Mar 17, 2018

Re: Stock Notice: Canon TS-E 90mm f/2.8L Macro & Canon TS-E 135mm f/4L Macro in Stock at B&H Photo

This post was so neglected and lonely so I thought I will write this....

Hello Post.

R1-7D · Mar 17, 2018

Stunning photos! You captured the beauty of southern Italy very well. These are really terrific!

Canon Rumors · Mar 16, 2018

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bwud · Mar 16, 2018

Talys said:
bwud said:

Talys said:

What you DO get:

5. Autofocus hunts more than native lenses, but its not bad.

6. It's better with wideish adapted lenses, lke 16-35/4 and 24-70/2.8 and 24-70/4LII. Definitely good with 70-200L/2.8 II.

7. Eye AF works!! and pretty well with adapted lens, too.

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Which adapter are you using? With my adapter (the metabones 4), some lenses don’t work at all (EF50/1.4, Sigma 70-200/2.8), some provide EyeAF but some do not. Maybe the sigma adapter is better.

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My friend lent me his Metabones 4 and MC-11 adapters. The Sigma MC-11 is the clear winner, in my opinion.

It's even cheaper!

I can't test my EF50/1.4... because the usm focus ring is stuck... again... lol. I know how to disassemble and fix it myself, but am too lazy to.

I’m not surprised given the resources available to metabones. I’d consider getting the sigma but in the last couple years I’ve acquired native lenses. I still adapt my macro and 16-35/4, where AF isn’t particularly concerning.

veng · Mar 16, 2018

BeenThere said:
No electrical contacts, so totally manual including aperture setting.
Huge rear opening, expect mirror box clipping.

Other faults addressed in this thread, if you are buying an f/0.95 lens and using it at anything less than about f/2 you are wasting your money. In any specific lens, you'll find the maximum aperture you are happy with sharpness at and it'll never leave that setting. If you want an f/8 lens, just spend 80$ on the 50 f/1.8 and be done with it.

ethanz · Mar 15, 2018

Yes the eastern road into the park was closed due to forest fires when I went, but thankfully it opened for just a little bit and was able to get in quickly, as opposed to going all the way around.

Tony Bennett · Mar 15, 2018

Why can I never get the 70-200 2.8L II IS on these sales? I either miss the sale or they’re out of stock. Ugh.

ajm · Mar 15, 2018

Bernard said:
My guess is that the C300 will get the C200's awesome RAW codec.
...and yes, it really is a great CODEC for many types of narrative work: it's very small for RAW, and it doesn't require an external recorder. Sure, it's a bit much for quick jobs, but it's really the best thing for shows that will go through a full grade.

We should also see the promised on-board 10-bit CODEC for the C200.

Ideally, I would love to see Canon offer (more) high-FPS options, but they probably require hardware upgrades.

From what Canon actually told me in person is the C300 MKII boards they put in it can't handle 4k 60p, so if it was going to get the new Canon RAW that the C200 has, they would need to put new boards in it. So that is my prediction that the C300 MKII will be offered an upgrade for new boards installed by Canon that will handle at least 4k 60p with their MXF codec currently in it. There was no "promised" 10 bit codec for the C200, Canon has always said it will be 8 bit, but maybe will be 8 bit 422 instead of 420 as they said last year.

The RAW thing could happen with the new boards internally as well in the C300 MKII. I also predict a full frame sensor availiable as an upgrade for the C700. .... But I am actually looking forward to the rumored XC15 type bodied camera that has no built in lens and can be used with most Canon's lenses. I'll be a NAB regardless of what happens....see some of you there!

dak723 · Mar 15, 2018

Talys said:
Diltiazem said:

transpo1 said:

\4K crop is a huge issue. That and DPAF are what are keeping me from buying it.

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Not available yet. That is what keeping me from buying it.

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@transpo1 - I get the DPAF part, and I think that will be resolved in the next (more expensive) body. Why is 4k crop such a huge issue? How wide do you want to go?

When you look at pro 4k rigs (like, $20,000 ones), they are essentially crop cameras, with the 8-ish megapixels that you need to record 4k. They never record 24 megapixels and reduce to 8.

The crop factor is a huge issue because that is what the trolls say, so unimaginative folks who don't know anything just repeat it endlessly. Since the vast majority of ILCs that have had video have had crop, it doesn't seem like a big deal. I would think the rolling shutter issue would be reduced with crop, but that is just a guess. Reviewers who are basically stupid keep figuring the crop to make it sound much worse than it is. One reviewer did all their calculations using the 22mm lens. Since the kit lenses are wider and, as mentioned, there is an excellent 11-22mm zoom, the crop should be no problem for the target consumer. As for no DPAF on 4K, it could very well be a processing speed issue. On higher priced rigs, we may see two processors to make it possible.

hne · Mar 15, 2018

lexaclarke said:
jd7 said:

hne said:

According to Canon:
"During typical operation, when the camera’s meter system turns off, the IS system is signaled by the camera to lock and center the correction elements and using power from the camera, the IS system performs this task."

Source: https://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2014/is_lens_rattling.htmlp

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Interesting! Presumably if Canon's IS system parks the IS lens group in the centred position when the IS system is on and the camera powers down, that is also where the IS lens group is parked when the IS system is off, so it sounds like Canon's IS system does work differently from Sigma's OS in that regard. I wonder why Sigma's system parks the IS lens group in a non-centred position (assuming I am correct in understanding that is how Sigma's system works)?

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I think the point is Sigma's doesn't 'park' the element at all. If there is power it keeps it floating in place, and if there's not power then it just settles wherever it likes. At least I think that's what this is all getting at.

That's what I tried to convey. Thank you for clarifying.

axtstern · Mar 15, 2018

Refurb7 said:
What is that crazy-looking lens!?

That is a old 50 mm 1.4 lens with a Soligor fish eye Adapter (I believe 1:0.28)
Picture Quality is crap but the 1.4 multipied by 0.28 makes this lens a beast for available light)

larusejunior · Mar 15, 2018

Loved the 3rd one!

Thanks for your comment

larusejunior · Mar 15, 2018

Thanks for your comments

RunAndGun · Mar 15, 2018

wtlloyd said:
So, FedEx stands behind the NRA, refusing to join other corporate leaders in advocating for safe and sane gun ownership rights.
How do ya'all feel about B&H now? Will this affect your buying choices in the future?

Not one tiny bit. Seriously?

It's your right to do business with whomever you choose, or not for whatever reason you choose.

So, because a couple of corporations decided to pull a big PR stunt, and let's all be honest here because that's all it is, and "distance" themselves from the NRA and FedEx didn't, you want to not do business with another company that has nothing to do with it, just because they happen to do business with the company that didn't participate in it, too? Why don't you ask Delta how turning their back on the NRA worked out for them?

I'm surprised you were able to type some of those words only using the left side of your keyboard. I suppose you could have dictated to Siri...

old-pr-pix · Mar 14, 2018

50% of what market is the fundamental question? I'd suggest that members of this forum have a rather rigorous view of what photography involves and what gear will better support achieving the 'best' photographic images. Yet, many in generations X, Y, and Z have a significantly different perspective of what constitutes good photography. They expect to overlay weird filters, cute graphics or slick animations (as in Snapchat) on photos & videos that they can then instantly send to friends and the world. They care less about dynamic range, depth of field (other than as a software filter), etc. Their images have a half-life of seconds - they don't strive for 'wall worthy' images. Their satisfaction comes from a 'how cute' instant response. Their photographic skill is measured by how many apps they can effectively use. For them, no P&S or even dSLR is a step-up because those platforms eliminate the features that make photography fun and rewarding.

Real photographers will thumb their noses at such gimmicks much like real artists snubbed early efforts at photography. But the market will move with the masses. P&S's will continue their death spiral while dSLR's and MILC's will remain the domain of true enthusiasts and working pros. If this is the market where Canon seeks 50% share, it will be a much smaller market than what we see today.

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