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3dit0r · Feb 19, 2018

I wonder if Canon's focus is more on this aspect of sensor design, or on organic sensor/global shutter design. Perhaps the two are not mutually exclusive, of course, but I just had in mind Panasonic's announcement last week, and Sony's follow up. Particularly Panasonic's organic global shutter sensor sounded impressive, at least superficially.

DPAF is great, though. Does anyone more technically minded know if this patent would indicate any DPAF improvements which would mean Eye-AF (à la Sony) would be possible? That would be a killer combo.

Shellbo6901 · Feb 19, 2018

if the g3x were to be upgraded with a lower mm I wouldn't be disappointed... if it were a tad lighter than it. i prefer canons to any other companys super zoom.

Ozarker · Feb 19, 2018

Mt Spokane Photography said:
Canon puts out new entry level cameras with incremental updates frequently. The issue is simple marketing 101. New entry photographers want the newest model. Its just like the new car marketing cycle, every 5 years, make a upgrade, in the meanwhile, make tiny incremental changes and hang a new model year tag on it.

Presumably, pro shooters are not going to fall for that, so Canon only releases a new model with major changes.

Very true, but to hear some people talk Canon should be releasing a new model in every line every year.

Michael Clark · Feb 18, 2018

I've had my EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS II and have heavily used it since 2010. I've never had a bit of trouble with the tripod collar. It rotates smoothly and goes on and off just fine when the two red dots are properly aligned. The two felt rings on the inside of the collar look to still be in great shape.

unfocused · Feb 18, 2018

Looking at your Facebook page, it looks like you are doing just fine with what you have. I think you have two choices: buy a longer lens (200 f2.8 ) or a second body (80D).

Advantage of the second body is that you can keep a lens on each body and switch bodies as runners come closer. Put your 135mm on the 80D and it gives you 216mm. Save your 16-35mm for the 6D. Since you are shooting runners outdoors, the 80D sensor will be just fine.

The 70-200 f2.8 is an incredible lens and well worth owning. If you go that route, you will be able to cover most of the needed shots, except if you want a wide shot, in which case you have to switch lenses during the race. Not impossible, but can be a bit of a pain.

Relative costs: 80D can be had for $800 refurbished. The 70-200 f2.8 can be had through Canon Price Watch for $1,770. If you get the 80D, you will probably be able to sell it for $500 or more when you get ready to move up. On the other hand, the 70-200 f2.8 is a lens that you will want in your bag sooner or later regardless of what you do.

DanThePhotoMan · Feb 18, 2018

I seriously hope Canon puts out something worth while in their Cinema EOS line. They make such great equipment and then cripple it beyond belief. I felt like I was cheating on a spouse when I bought my FS7 three years ago instead of sticking with Canon, but I can't tell you how great of a decision that was, and even still today getting work from the FS7 as it's to most requested camera in the world. Even still, I've been hoping all this time Canon puts out something to compete, but when they put out such a great camera like the C200 but then leave out 10 bit 422, it's obvious they either dont know what their customers wants, or they don't care about what their customers want and are more concerned about not steppig on their other products toes.

If this is the C100mk3, it'll be a fantsastic camera that's crippled to 8bit 420 at 30p and lackluster slow motion. If it's a C300mk3, it'll be a wonderful camera that is completely priced way outside of the current competition, and most people wont even bother.

Ozarker · Feb 18, 2018

ahsanford said:
Nikon is herky-jerky with some lightning fast updates (sometimes due to problems), some mid-cycle refreshes (like the 's' version of the flagship gripped models), some more standard 3-4 year life cycles, and then the odd 'leave a market to die' approach (e.g. D300s .... .... .... .... D500).

But compare and contrast to Keith's timelines at NL (snapshots below), and you see a trend:

Canon is more of a creature of habit with regular / fairly predictable lifecycles, running slightly longer on the flagship 1D / 5D stuff

Canon is throwing its weight around with a mad proliferation of new product lines, while Nikon continues to keep their portfolio fairly compact (unless you count their very expensive dalliance with the CX mount)

But other than that, the two companies aren't all that different as far as gameplan goes. Compare both to Sony running riot with new releases on the E/FE mount cameras and it's night and day.

- A

You are the best at graphics Sanford. Always fun to see and informative to no end.

Don Haines · Feb 18, 2018

AlanF said:
I am now seeing D500/Nikkor 200-500mms every weekend I go birding, both are clearly great hits and the combination has caught the imagination. Canon should do something on both fronts

I agree, but mostly because my best friend has a D500 and the 200-500 He is probably on the Nikon site saying how he always sees a 7D2 and 150-600 when he goes out......

Seriously, it is a great combo, and if someone is starting fresh, I would recommend that they take a serious look at it.

Mikehit · Feb 18, 2018

Rudeofus said:
neuroanatomist said:

In other words, you were talking out of your ass (I will be explicit, since apparently 'nether orifice' was too subtle a reference for you).

I was wrong about one thing, though...I didn't think my opinion of your ability to understand and interpret information could fall any lower. Pathetic is no longer adequate. Wretchedly abominable might come closer.

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Uh boy, that really hit me hard, did it not? Apparently your big brother taught you some new bad words, sadly these new cuss words still do not make you appear any more mature. Neither does your risible camera gear, if you can't even control your temper.

Mikehit said:

you have no facts, merely a personal view on the limited data presented to you.

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I have brought up my facts, and drew some conclusions from them. We both see the numbers from CIPA, we see stagnating dSLR and lens sales, we see that average lens price rose sharply several years ago (while the economy hit rock bottom world wide), then flattened out (while the economy slowly go going) and now have begun to shrink (while the economy hit record levels).

Mikehit said:

Surely as an engineer used to looking at data, do you not think you are pushing things too far?

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You may find the facts I brought up too weak as a foundation for my conclusions, or you may find my conclusions outright wrong and present some different conclusions. I personally think that improvement/display of status (you may call it ego) is a big (and frequently underestimated) motivation for people to buy and/or do stuff. I see way too many Porsche Cayennes and similar SUVs in dense urban places to believe, that customers are rational actors. The trend from "things" to "experiences" may well indicate, that a shaky video from a safari to Botswana gains more facebook likes and wows than a selfie with a Rolex watch or big camera gear.

Well, at least thanks for keeping our discussion civilized ...

I note you have not responded to Neuro's analysis of the data you were looking at....

Ozarker · Feb 18, 2018

This will be an interesting lens. As long as it has focus confirmation the lack of AF wouldn't be a big deal for me. Lack of IS wouldn't be either at this focal length. Good on Lensbaby for finding a niche for their products. I don't have one, but I have wanted to try them out.

Jaysheldon · Feb 17, 2018

Hi
I'll be spending a week in Boca Raton in mid-March. Looking for interesting areas to shoot wildlife. (or areas to shoot interesting wildlife) Any recommendation? I'll likely have with me a 60D and a 70-200 F4.

Cory · Feb 17, 2018

Thanks all. I decided, I think, to get a 300 4.0 IS instead.

lion rock · Feb 17, 2018

Thank you Click.
-r

Click said:
@ Lion rock and Vern,
Very nice shots, guys.

9VIII · Feb 17, 2018

I've been thinking along the same lines for a while, but with different reasons.

Whenever shooting macro I get way, way more heat noise from 10 second exposures, ideally I want the sensor completely inactive for at least a few seconds before taking a picture.
The fact that mirrorless cameras are constantly reading off the sensor has got to be degrading image quality. This is one reason I will probably always have an SLR design camera (though you can turn the display off on some cameras, It's hard to say how that affects the sensor though, and it's still not an ideal solution).

The best idea I can come up with is to split the mirror into top and bottom halves, that way it would only need to protrude 12mm out beyond the sensor and would easily fit within a short flange mount, and you wouldn't need phase detect photosites on the sensor itself (ok that would be more beneficial to other companies since DPAF is both AF and color capturing across the whole sensor).

The downside, I really like the electronic shutter in my new Fuji X-E2S, I don't think I've actuated the mechanical shutter more than 50 times.
The idea of a "solid state" camera is appealing, with an E-shutter the lifespan of the camera is effectively infinite, and it's totally silent.
At the very least I wish mirrorless cameras would have better cooling, maybe even active cooling, and given how much heat is a problem with 4K recording maybe I won't have to wait too long.

YuengLinger · Feb 17, 2018

snappy604 said:
I really like my 80d, but its not an equivalent.

this is mirrorless, lighter, smaller, higher FPS, does 4k, built in IBIS, etc. I know several that have sold their 5 series canon cameras and gone with the previous gen to this due to weight etc. There are some compromises, but it does produce really nice results and a lot more portable.

Most Fuji lenses are heavy and bulky enough to make this, in practical purposes, not much smaller than the 80D--especially with an L-plate added for tripod use.

Based on what the battery-grip offers, "up to 900 shots," it appears as if shooting stills without the extra bulk only allows 300 shots per battery.

But I'm sure the EVF on the Fuji will be an attractive feature in many shooting situations.

Jack Douglas · Feb 16, 2018

Thanks Kodachrome. I could do better but I'm afraid he's going to smash that beak into the glass, assuming he doesn't bite as he sometimes does when he thinks I'm ridiculing him.

Don, you must have been standing with a handful of corn right in the middle. Are they migrating or hanging around?

Jack

Mt Spokane Photography · Feb 15, 2018

Canon Rumors said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:

Canon Rumors said:

Mt Spokane Photography said:

Speaking of ads, there was one on the home page for a Nikon D850. I decided to give CR a few pennies and clicked on it. It took me to the Nikon Website and the D850 which was marked out of stock. So Nikon is paying $$ to advertise buying a camera that they can't deliver!

We should all click on ads in CR (Not that scam popup). That's how the site is financed, they receive a small amount when a reader clicks on a ad.(only one time)

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Clicks don't really matter and artificially inflating them is actually a bad thing. The auction of ad space will pay less for what is considered inflated CTR.

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Interesting. I am on the other end, I pay for clicks by bidding on them, so I incorrectly assumed that there was a 1:1 correlation.

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If you're bidding $2 on a click, and an ad spot comes up with a CTR that's too high, they'll serve the $1.50 bid and give you a better spot for $2.

I have low price products, so 5 cents a click. Many of my products are custom made and unique so I'm the only one selling them. The ad just helps people discover them when they did not know such a thing existed.

Mt Spokane Photography · Feb 15, 2018

I skimmed thru the patent, and saw that it covered the use of four different materials, but did not see any reference to a lens design or focal length, except that it applies to a DO lens.

HaroldC3 · Feb 15, 2018

The 11-22mm is a great lens, there is no need for a 9-18mm unless it's a constant aperture.

NancyP · Feb 15, 2018

Wow, Glenn! I am studying your Guide to Tropical Rainforest Photography e-book (a great book, very practical), for a family trip to Belize (Stann Creek district) soon. Have you been to Belize?

CanonGrunt · Feb 14, 2018

YuengLinger said:
Memirsbrunnr said:

First off congratulations with your ethical stamp of approval but something has me bothered...
In a world where diversity more and more equates with the expressions f*ck men and f*ck whites, being an Asian company with few western employees in its structure definitely gives you a leg up in the postmodernist oppression Olympics parts of this evaluation..
Congrats with the achievement, but i personally see it no longer as a plus being lauded for diversity.. As it has changed from a social medal against racism where no colour is seen and gender equality, into a social justice warrior inverse racist world where it is ok to hate Caucasians and heterosexual men.

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This is a topic worthy of discussion elsewhere (a million other websites!), but PLEASE, not here on CanonRumors. I'm not scolding you for responding; the "award" itself certainly involves hot-button criteria; in fact, I wonder if whichever administrator posted this was ready for the responses...

On the other hand, if Canon had been blasted for non-ethical behavior, say with obtaining resources, marketing, working conditions, it would be questionable to avoid relaying such news.

But, hey, CR members, please keep CR politics free as much as possible.

Wow. That's not even what they mean by ethics, or how they judge ethics among these companies. There is actually a different organization that judges "inclusiveness, diversity, and outreach." But that's not this. This is about business ethics, practices, and integrity. And not screwing over your customers... which they should get a dent for since the C200 has no external RAW output..

Sharlin · Feb 14, 2018

hne said:
The specs talks about a 2/3" sensor and a 2/3" B4 mount. Anything else would have been weird for a broadcast camera.

Oops, indeed.

Canon Rumors · Feb 14, 2018

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transpo1 · Feb 14, 2018

Nice little camera with 4K UHD and 4K Photo for $1K with a 12-60 lens. This is one of the cameras Canon's M50 needs to aim at.

bsbeamer · Feb 14, 2018

I'll believe it when I see it. The "brain" may be under $8-10K, but by the time you get everything to make the camera actually useable (not including lenses) within the RED ecosystem, you're easily looking at $25K+. Making their recording media and accessories more affordable (or offering a cheaper line of them) would do more to really make 8K affordable. Codec alternatives would also help, but then you're segmenting their market and may get backlash from some RED diehards.

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