Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 OS Sport & Sigma 70-200 f/4 OS Contemporary Coming? [CR1]

Let's hope Sigma will bring their best techniques to the lenses. In my opinion, both the 2.8 and 4.0, need to be as "good" as the competitors offerings. Of course, the 70-200 2.8 L IS II is hard to beat, but Tamron's new one seems to be nearly as good, so Sigma has a new benchmark. Also, both new Sigma offerings should provide a kind of weather-sealing. Tamron has coupled good lenses with good mechanics. Sigma's Art lenses has lack of weathersealing. For me a no-go.

I do think that Sigma's Global Vision line brought back the company to serious competition, but I also think that their best lenses should have best optics plus best mechanics ("A+S combined").
I would never compare Eos 5DmkII with 7DmkII (FF vs. APSC; 2008 vs. 2014). Apples and oranges. But I think that all newer Eos 5D should have same build-quality as 7DmkII.
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More Cinema EOS C300 Mark III Information [CR0]

brianftpc said:
I forgot that the c700 has global shutter. That could be canon's justification to jack the price up on a C300mk3 that has global shutter but does not shoot in 6k.

That’s true- that sounds like them. However, if they really want to generate excitement, they would do both 6K and Global Shutter.
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Help to understand Canon 1DXII viewfinder information

Hi Larsskv.
Ok, I find that interesting, so it is basically only the ‘key’ to the display that changes via the instructions, I didn’t realise, (obviously)! :)

Cheers, Graham.

Larsskv said:
Viggo, Valvebounce and DJL329, thank you very much for your helpful suggestion.

Valvebounce - I am Norwegian, but when it comes to the icons displayed in the viewfinder, the various symbols are displayed the same, regardless of language settings.
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Lensrentals.com Compares the Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Against the Competition

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Lensrentals.com has posted a comparison between the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS, EF 85mm f/1.2L and the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 Art. This comparison is not their usual scientific endeavour using OLAF, this is a bit more of a real world comparison by looking at images with our own eyes.</p>
<p><strong>From <a href="http://www.pntra.com/t/TUJGRktHSkJGRk5HSklCRkpOSkVN?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lensrentals.com%2F">Lensrentals.com</a>:</strong></p>

<blockquote><p>The <a href="http://www.pntrs.com/t/TUJGRktHSkJGRk5HSklCRkpOSkVN?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lensrentals.com%2Frent%2Fcanon-85mm-f1.2l-ii">Canon 85mm f1.2L II</a> is the standard and is really middle of the road in this comparison. It’s a great lens with that dreamy bokeh but is the most expensive and is slow to focus. The <a href="http://www.pntrac.com/t/TUJGRktHSkJGRk5HSklCRkpOSkVN?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lensrentals.com%2Frent%2Fcanon-85mm-f1.4l-is">Canon 85mm f1.4L IS</a> performed amazingly with everything I threw at it. It’s sharper than the 1.2, faster, and has image stabilization but is still pretty expensive. The budget <a href="http://www.pjatr.com/t/TUJGRktHSkJGRk5HSklCRkpOSkVN?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lensrentals.com%2Frent%2Fsigma-85mm-f1.4-dg-hsm-art-for-canon%3Fsource%3Dpepperjam%26publisherId%3D119254%26clickId%3D2172694071">Sigma 85mm f1.4 Art</a> lens is sharp and quick but is really heavy. My new choice to keep in my camera bag for a wedding is definitely going to be the new <a href="http://www.pjatr.com/t/TUJGRktHSkJGRk5HSklCRkpOSkVN?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lensrentals.com%2Frent%2Fcanon-85mm-f1.4l-is">Canon 85mm f1.4L IS</a> for the image stabilization alone. <a href="https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2017/12/comparing-the-canon-85mm-f1-4l-is-against-the-competition/">Read the full comparison</a></p></blockquote>
<p>We await full OLAF testing to make sure that the machines agree.</p>
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German AC-Foto advent calendar

Maximilian said:
So today it's 6D2 day for all those longing for that FF body:

Canon EOS 6D Mark II Body for 1.675 €.
That's 195 € discount from the regular AC-Foto price and more than 100 € less than anywhere else in Germany.

For those pulling the trigger please note that the 6D2 is not included in the "winter cashback" but in the "EOS plus X" promo. So if it is on your wish list as well, go buy an included lens, too, and save some money. Details see here:

https://www.canon.de/lens-promo/

Enjoy your GAS ;)


Thank you for the referece that is not only b&h!
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Patent: Lots of Big White Lens Patent Applications Surface

I would absolutely love to see a 400/2,8 with a built in 1,4 TC.
Considering the 200-400 with a built in TC.
It would be a logical update to the 400/2,8L IS II.
To me it would be perfect for soccer/football.

With both the Olympic games and the Fifa world cup i´m pretty sure that we will something interesting coming in the coming months.
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DPReview reviews the A7R3

Dylan777 said:
bwud said:
Some bad news, I can’t feel any difference between the grips of the a7r II and A7r III.

And the good news:

It’s more customizable than I expected. If there is a function you can’t map somewhere I haven’t found it and probably wouldn’t want to map it. The controls feel good, not gimmicky.

It’s responsive. It doesn’t turn on right quick, but once it’s on it goes.

The EVF is beautiful.

I initially intended to have AF-ON stay default and AEL be for EyeAF. However I discovered that you can map the center press of the joystick (what resets the AF point to center on canons), so I instead put the AF-ON function there (meaning I need not move my thumb after selecting an AF point), and put the EyeAF function on the AF-ON button as well as lens button.

That freed up AEL, which I have toggling between exposure preview and not, a function I had to tediously find in the A7R II menus. Combined with the custom menu, I can’t think of any reason I’d have to navigate the main menu with any regularity.

Congrats!!! :)

Compared to mrk II, how is 6400ISO & 12800ISO? Thanks in advance.

A9 is the only body I have as FF. I'm kinda want 2nd FF body, too lazy swapping 2470 &70200 ;D , but want to see what a7s III has to offer. The a7r III looks very good.

So I shot a couple hundred family photos today, and lo and behold CameraRAW doesn’t support the files yet. There were a few at 6400 which look good in the EVF, but I’ll be in a holding pattern (not a fan of captureone, which does support it).
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5DsR image quality

For raw picture quality the 5DS/R cannot be beat by any other Canon DSLR.

To me the 5DS/R and a Dx camera is the perfect match. With the 5DIV being a good compromise between the two if you want a little more fps and the live view/video options it delivers over the 5DS/R and can live with the relatively paltry 7 fps compared to a fast shooting Dx.

Since I prefer maximum IQ and very often need the ability to crop the 5DS/R gets almost all my time.
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Backup EOS Body: M5/adapter or SL/2?

I bought the sl2 over the M6 simply because it uses native EF lenses, and cost $500. I have been very pleased. the flip out ans rotate lcd screen with touch works so well that I seldom use the optical finder. My battery life exceeds my expectations, and unlike the M series, the user interface and features is tha same as other EOS APS-C bodies, which means it can be tethered by wire to a PC for remote control. A AC adapter is available to power it continuously from AC, it is a very good value.

I can fold out the lcd and hold the camera against my body for extra stability if needed for long exposures.

Dual Pixel AF is a big improvement. I'd look for special deals at Christmas time and get a new one rather than waiting for $50 off on a refurb deal next year. The $449 deal for SL2 plus lens may appear again for Christmas, its expired now. Watch for it, they sold out in short order.
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Sigma Trade Up Program Gives $350.00 USD Back on Used EF, E, or PL System Mount Lenses Towards Sigma

Re: Sigma Trade Up Program Gives $350.00 USD Back on Used EF, E, or PL System Mount Lenses Towards S

midluk said:
Anybody has any idea what they optimized the pricing for? Maximum profit?
In business parlance an optimum price is the best balance of volume and price to yield the max total profit. It is important to note this is not the max profit per marginal unit. The company may sell less units for a higher per-unit profit but this is NOT the optimum price. As customers in a market selling at the optimum price means, for the group as a whole, the most people are able to buy one for a reasonable price.
All of this is very theoretical and usually only commodity goods are sold at close to true optimum prices. To say this about camera lenses is marketing hype.
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We May Be Waiting a Little While Longer for a New 50mm Lens [CR2]

I was casually looking around to see if there was any news about a new 50 with IS since the 85 came out, and found this thread. It's been interesting to read because, as someone noted, the participants seem to mostly be enthusiasts and not professionals, and the analyses regarding why Canon would or wouldn't want to bother updating a 50 are from that perspective - and you can't argue with (most of) the arguments here, which basically sum up to "I can do everything I could possibly need to do with what's currently available so I don't see why Canon would bother".

So I thought I'd chime in with the perspective of someone who uses this focal length professionally. The main thing my partner and I do is weddings, family and baby/child portraits, and things like that (we do also do corporate type stuff, where our equipment needs are a bit different). I do video - and we both shoot with 5d4s (we can share equipment and there's a more-or-less consistent look between the photos and the video for a wedding, for example, though our approach and style is different).

Now, you may be thinking, 50mm is not really a great portrait focal length on a FF body, and isn't wide enough for events. Well, my partner carries two cameras on a harness, the second with a 24 1.4 L - and I use the 35 f/2 IS for wider shots; anything wider than that I typically do with the 24 TS-E II on a tripod. 50mm is certainly a compromise, but a very good one - the problem with shooting with an 85 is that in a wedding, that actually gets you too close most of the time. During the ceremony and speeches etc. she uses a 70-200 2.8 IS - an 85 doesn't get you close enough in that case. The rest of the time, the best moments often happen in very tight quarters with the bride and groom and 85 just doesn't work. So the 50 1.2 saves the day - you get the shallow depth of field that clients love (and you don't actually have to shoot at 1.2 on a FF body to get it) and you can zoom with your feet even in tight quarters to get the framing you want. Likewise for family and kid portraits, it's great because it can be very difficult to track fidgety kids with an 85 or longer length, and with younger kids you need to be close to them to get their attention and to get them to engage with the camera (though she does use the 70-200 for these too occasionally depending on the situation).

So, it's actually the perfect focal length for that stuff. But, I also actually prefer it for a lot of other kinds of photography too, and plan to get the 50 TS-E for my other stuff including architecture and landscapes. I have the 24 II and the original 90 TS-E lenses; I find myself stitching together 90mm TS-E shots to get essentially a 50mm perspective - the increased resolution from stitching is not really worth it for what I do (I will probably sell the 90 because it's an awkward length for me, and eventually get the new 50 and 135 TS-Es). For me, the 50mm perspective is how I see things most of the time and is just ideal for my style of photography.

So that said, for video I primarily use the 35 f/2 IS - and I don't like it (though it's actually perfect for corporate type stuff I do as well where shallow DOF style is less important). I mean the lens is great, honestly, I just don't like how it looks for video You can get shallow depth of field with close-ups on a FF body, but for the most part the way it renders on video is just not my favorite - though it is not actually soft, for my purposes it appears "not crisp" in 1080p video compared to shooting with a shallower DOF (sharpness at this resolution being more about perception than technical specs). I vastly prefer using 50mm. I use the 1.4 for video because it's much lighter than the 1.2, and because we have two copies of it that weren't getting used since she got the 1.2 - and because I'm waiting for an IS version.

Here's what's key here - IS is a godsend for Canon video (even with a tripod, truthfully) since we don't get in-body stabilization (the stabilization in the 6D II is not good for professional results, at least for my style - it's digital processing, which I can do better in post if that's what I wanted, which I do do although as little as possible because it usually looks weird). If you haven't tried it, try a short clip with any recent-model IS lens you have - even a telephoto. It's amazing. I use a shoulder rig because the 35 is not the only lens I use but with modern IS, hand-held is legitimately just as good as a shoulder rig - and that's why I want a 50 with IS. I want to ditch the shoulder rig and instead have two bodies on a harness, one with a 50 IS and one with the 35 IS (with the 85 IS in a belt pouch for certain shots that I currently use the 85 1.8 for).

A 50 IS would be a game-changer for video. I shoot at or near wide-open most of the time (using ND filters outside) to get a "cinematic" shallow-depth-of-field look because that's what I like, and what clients like.

I would gladly pay $1600 for a 50 1.4 with IS, just like the 85. I would also gladly pay *significantly* more for an updated 50 1.2 with IS, no hesitation. I am far from the only one, too, although I will concede that most people doing this kind of low-level professional video are more than happy with their zoom lenses with IS (or their Sony or Panasonic cameras with in-body IS). I aim for something aesthetically far better than that - people like me buy these lenses to shoot wide-open with, and I care more about that (and IS) than the "versatility" of a zoom, or even of absolute technical sharpness (same thinking as e.g. Leica users - and e.g. I also shoot medium-format film wide-open with large-aperture lenses). Canon is *so* close to letting me realize that in really an amazingly easy way compared to what would have been required just a few years ago, and a 50 with IS would take me almost all the way there.
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Extender+extension tube anomalies

neuroanatomist said:
With the 2x TC, the max aperture is reduced by two stops, regardless of what is recorded in the EXIF or how it appears. The behavior you describe is normal, and it will make sense if you count the pins/contacts. On the camera mount, there is a set of five pins and another set of three, with a slight space between them. The front end of the extension tube duplicates this 5+3 arrangement. Most lenses (with specific exceptions mentioned below) have a set of five contacts for the five pins, and a set of two contacts for the three pins (one of the two is double-wide). So, cameras, extension tubes, and most lenses have that 5+3 setup.

However, look at the front of the 2x TC (extender), and notice the arrangement is 8+3 – those extra three pins are specific for communication of the lens with the TC (the rear mount of the TC is 5+3, and the TC 'converts' the information to the same 5+3 on the camera). On the mount of your 200/2.8, and on all Canon lenses that are compatible with TCs (70-200 zooms and L primes 135mm and longer). there's a corresponding 8+2 set of contacts.

So, the only way the TC information is communicated to the camera is if the TC is mounted directly behind a compatible lens.

Interesting..... good to know!
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HDMI Forum Releases Version 2.1 of the HDMI Specification, Supports 10K

rfdesigner said:
bhf3737 said:
rfdesigner said:
My first thought is "good god.. how are they going to implement that".

Currently Canon can move data out at about 60Mbps in its video product line which is better than many other competitors. Even the lowly XC-15 can do about 45Mbps. They have to increase their throughput 8 times to reach 480Mbps. I guess heat management will become more of an issue in chip design.

did you mean B or b..

there's almost an order of magnitude difference. 480Mbps doesn't strike me as that fast.

Anyway, IMHO at about 3~6Gbps (400~800MBps) you start picking up other costs.. as most of the cheap materials/connectors used in the electronics industry become too lossy. (though volume always reduces costs)

Our JESD204 link running 12Gbps demanded a microwave substrate PCB, quite a bit more expensive than the FR4 canon will be using in 99% of their gear at the moment.

Sorry I meant B (byte) rather than b (bit). about 45-60MB/s is what lower end cinema line delivers.
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