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Dec 5, 2017

winglet said:
I believe part of the reason for the 600EX was for sale in jurisdictions where it wasn't possible to get approval for the radio frequencies used or radio triggering is otherwise forbidden. Different regulatory standards in different markets, etc.

True. That's the same reason there are, to give one other example, a 6D (WG) and a 6D (N), where the (WG) indicates WiFi and GPS, and the (N) has neither.

Chaitanya · Dec 5, 2017

chrysoberyl said:
Chaitanya said:

I had tried it for a day(borrowed it from the group) and its more convenient to use in field compared to MP-E65. Only issue I had with this lens was that focus throw is very small hardly 90degree to go from infinity to 2x so precise focusing is very difficult. Other than that IQ is excellent.

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Thanks! Was this lens mounted on a rail?

No didnt use rail, mostly handheld for taking photos of reptiles for a research work in field.

bereninga · Dec 5, 2017

aceflibble said:
The 40mm STM isn't any quieter than the common USM lenses. In fact compared to some higher-end USM zooms, it's a lot noisier.

'STM' is just Canon's new marketing for focus-by-wire. Focus-by-wire is great for repeating pre-programmed focus racking, but for guessing focus it's jerkier than USM, and it is far from silent. The elements still have to move into place and as the shells of the STM lenses tend to be of lower quality than higher-end USM lenses, you can hear the internals moving around much more clearly. The 24-105 STM is the quietest Canon EF lens for video, and even that is only a hair quieter than USM and again, only with preset racking. (The 18-55 STM is actually the quietest overall, but that's an EF-S lens and so won't work on the 5D4.)

The various f/2.8 L zooms are the quietest EF USM lenses Canon make and are on par with the best STM lenses in terms of noise. One set of the older USM primes are also very quiet (20mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, and 100mm f/2) but their focus is also a little inaccurate and optically they're all over the place. (Very sharp at f/4 onwards; any wider and they're so soft it's like a layer of vaseline has been smeared all over them.)

But either way, neither STM nor USM lenses are silent and you will always hear them if you're recording through the camera's own mic. USM lenses make less noise as they travel but a bigger 'thump' when they arrive and stop at the focus point as well as often a slight dragging sound when they first start moving focus; STM lenses make more noise as they rack through their focus range but don't make any additional noise at the start or end of operation. The other trade is that STM lenses will usually find focus during video quicker (so they're making a touch more noise when searching, but search for less time) while USM is optimised for stills speed and can take a little longer with video. (So it's making less noise, but doing so for longer.)

Tamron's latest lenses are very quiet and focus well with video, plus are all weather-sealed and have VC, but they're still not totally silent and the focus can be just a hair slower than Canon's own lenses.

If video is important to you, you're better off either using a system designed primarily for it (Panasonics, for example, are primarily geared toward video while also offering decent stills) where quiet lenses are more common, or record audio only through an external microphone; a hotshoe-mounted shotgun mic is often enough to get clear sound while ignoring any noise from the lens.

You can mitigate—but not entirely avoid—lens noise by turning down the mic's sensitivity. If you have audio levels set automatically then the camera will turn up the volume of anything quiet, making lens noise worse. If you have the sensitivity or overall levels turned up manually then you'll also be picking up more unwanted noise. Keeping volume as low as possible (whether that's by turning down sensitivity or by simply reducing all levels flat depends on whether you're using the internal mic, external recorder, etc) will minimise how much lens noise is recorded. Of course, editing the audio to remove all noise when there are no sounds you want, either manually or via a noise gate filter, can also make a huge difference and is something you should get used to doing if you're going to be recording a lot of video. (It always strikes me as odd that so many people get into video expecting to only worry about the picture and avoid doing any audio editing, when sound is so very important.)

tl;dr version: If you're sticking with the 5D4, look at getting a hotshoe shotgun mic, make sure to set your levels manually, and check out the 24-105 STM, the f/2.8 USM zooms, or get a lens with a good manual focus ring. If you want to stay with Canon but are willing to shift bodies, an APS-C body with the 18-55 STM lens and a shotgun mic can be a slight improvement again over the 5D4. (The 7D3, due within the next few months, is expected to have good 4K recording.) If all that sounds too much to you or you're not tied to Canon anyway, look into the Panasonic GH cameras; Fujifilm also make several mirrorless bodies with nice 4K recording and very quietly-focusing lenses, though their internal mics are awful so you'd want to use an external hotshoe mic with them anyway.
There is no lens which will by itself provide silent operation on a 5D4.

This is an extremely insightful and useful post. Thanks so much for sharing all of this knowledge!

For me, I might look into a compact shotgun mic some time. Seems to solve the issue of lens AF noise across the board.

One thing that folks might not know is that the Canon EOS M6 has focus peaking, which seems to me something they should've added to the 5DIV. But that is off-topic.

Pixel · Dec 5, 2017

ahsanford said:
Cue people complaining it's not f/1.8 in 3, 2, 1...

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Chaitanya · Dec 5, 2017

Ephotozine has posted their review of new Tamron Telezoom lens.
https://www.ephotozine.com/article/tamron-100-400mm-f-4-5-6-3-di-vc-usd-lens-review-31750

Canon Rumors · Dec 5, 2017

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<strong>From Lensrentals.com:</strong></p>
<p><em>Partnership Increases Leadership Position in Imaging Rental Market, Offers More Technical Expertise for Consultation, Greater Inventory and an East Coast Office for Lensrentals</em></p>
<p><strong>Memphis, TN – December 5, 2017 –</strong> Lensrentals, the leading online photo, video and lighting equipment rental company, announces a recent strategic partnership with LensProToGo. The combined company will be privately held, with both the Lensrentals and LensProToGo brands continuing to operate with increased resources.</p>
<p>The strategic partnership effectively increases Lensrentals video equipment knowledge base, provides an East coast facility, and allows the company to further its leading position in the photo and video equipment rental market. Customers of both brands will be able to continue the long-term customer service relationships built over the years, in addition to having access to the largest inventory of equipment for rental in the photo and video industry, and an array of shipping, try-before-you-buy and insurance coverage programs.</p>
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<p>“Building an east coast presence with a team that share our values and focus on customer service, is an important goal for Lensrentals. The LensProToGo opportunity allows us to increase our visibility on the east coast of the US, and continue to offer a more specialized consultative approach to photography and video gear rental,” said Drew Cicala, co-owner, Lensrentals. “We’ve long admired the LensProToGo team, share many similarities in our businesses, and overall approach to helping customers achieve exceptional results. LensProToGo team’s video market expertise blends well with our own, will greatly contribute toward expanding our product offerings and knowledge base for customers to draw upon,”Cicala continued.</p>

<p>“We’ve known the Lensrentals team for many years, and by agreeing to blend our operations we can maintain our company ethos and service-first approach to customers,” said Paul Friedman, CEO, LensProToGo. “On a day-to-day basis our customers will now be able to access cameras, lenses, lighting, drones and more in the largest rental inventory of photo and video equipment in the country. We’ll also continue to spend as much time on the phone and email as our customers need, we enjoy our customers and the relationships formed, and we look forward to expanding those relationships even further.”</p>
<p>In the long-term, Lensrentals will be able to better serve customers who vary in their needs and wants. From those customers that know what they’re looking for, to those needing a little advice or perspective on equipment, or that may want a more consultative relationship, to fully understand all elements of the equipment.</p>
<p>The continued growth of Lensrentals and LensProToGo, allows both brands to better serve the largest customer base, with the newest and widest range of creative solutions, from experts with the deepest knowledge base in the industry. With the largest rental inventory of photo and video equipment in the country, the company is at the forefront of what creatives need to deliver outstanding video, still and digital content.</p>
<p>The strategic partnership agreement was closed December 1st 2017, having been approved by both companies.</p>
<p>In a previously unannounced and separate agreement in late September, Lensrentals agreed to acquire a 100% interest in ATS Rentals.</p>
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rrcphoto · Dec 5, 2017

Canon Rumors said:
CIPA has released its camera sales statistics for October 2017, and the numbers may be a disappointment to some companies.</p>

just to nitpick. these are simply shipment reports, not sales reports, and in reality it was to be expected that the shipments would be lower than last year because of the post earthquake rush that happened the last quarter of 2016.

What was numerically curious was that 78% of the YoY amount of DSLR's were shipped in October, whereas 112% of Mirrorless were shipped (67% and 90% respectively to the Americas). This may indicate that the DSLR's are having a hard time selling, and that there is inventory built up in the supply chains moreso for DSLR's than for mirrorless.

It also may account for some of the deep discounting on DSLR's especially Canon that we saw during black friday sales.

The rise of mirrorless continues this year with an increased in shipments over the same period last year. However, even with that, the trend is that the market correction that occurred the last 3 months of last year were simply because of production coming back online due to the earthquake.Don't be too surprised, or shocked even if this continues for the next two CIPA reporting periods..

https://www.canonnews.com/cipa-yoy-ilc-market-correction-continues-and-mirrorless-continues-to-have-a-great-year

Click · Dec 5, 2017

Thank you for sharing this information.

bereninga · Dec 5, 2017

Yikes, hopefully Lowepro will keep its identity. Some of the Kata bag designs live on, just under the Manfrotto name. Lowepro has some great concepts for their bags.

Mt Spokane Photography · Dec 4, 2017

While it sounds good, and the price is right, its the software that makes or breaks such a product. Apparently they have software for their existing product which uses slow wi-fi. It lacks a lot of features. I see mention of a bridging mode, but no details.

It does mention that two of the live view autofocus modes will not work, quick mode and face recognition. The inability of the unit to connect by ftp to my NAS for hands free transfers would be a requirement for my support.

Another plus is that they apparently offer a replacement battery. Their old unit did not have a replaceable battery, when it was discharged, you had to wait, if it died, a big expense.

I sent a email asking about FTP capability.

jd7 · Dec 4, 2017

ahsanford said:
jd7 said:

bholliman - perhaps the comments you have seen about round bokeh balls are about the ability of the lens to produce "perfectly" round bokeh balls if located near the centre of the frame? I would expect all of the higher end 85s (at least) to be able to do that. I believe the clipping occurs as you get closer to the edge of the frame. See the images Neuro posted in this thread http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=33939.0

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I guess both 85L lenses aren't 'higher end' then:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=33869.msg696463#msg696463

Lovely shot, btw, but the clipping is clearly present. And as best I can tell, it's not a corner or central issue, but somewhere in between. That shot shows cat eye bokeh up top (fine by me) and some lovely central circles, but the sides in particular have the bokeh clipped pretty hard. The bokeh sadly becomes a distraction when this happens. No knock on the photographer in this case -- it's a great shot that the lens couldn't fully realize, I guess.

- A

I take your point, although it does seem the bokeh circles which are very close to the centre are round ... it's just that you don't have to get very far at all from the centre before you see significant clipping. It seems to me that compared to the Canon 85Ls, the older Sigma 85 EX (and the newer Art?) is showing clipping in a smaller area of the frame, primarily near the top ... or am I imagining it? Anyway, I don't mean to suggest the Canon 85Ls are not high end, regardless of bokeh clipping!

Canon Rumors · Dec 4, 2017

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<p>From Canon USA:</p>
<p>Canon U.S.A., Inc., is excited to announce the launch of a CarePAK PLUS promotion just in time for the holidays. Now through January 6, 2018, 13 months free Canon CarePAK PLUS is included at no additional cost to customers who purchase select Canon cameras and lenses and register their product within 30 days. The list of eligible Canon products has been expanded to include the EOS 6D Mark II, EOS 80D, EOS 77D and the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM, giving even more Canon customers the opportunity to enjoy free accident protection.</p>
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<strong>All eligible Canon cameras and lenses include:</strong> (New gear added in bold)</p>

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<li>EOS-1D X Mark II Body</li>
<li>EOS 5D Mark IV Body</li>
<li>EOS 5D Mark III Body</li>
<li>EOS 5Ds Body</li>
<li>EOS 5DsR Body</li>
<li>EOS 6D Body</li>
<li>EOS 7D Mark II Body</li>
<li><strong>EOS 6D Mark II Body</strong></li>
<li>EOS 80D Body</li>
<li><strong>EOS 77D Body</strong></li>
<li>EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM</li>
<li>EF 16-35mm f/2.8L III USM</li>
<li>EF 17-40mm f/4L USM</li>
<li>EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM</li>
<li>EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM</li>
<li>EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM</li>
<li>EF 50mm f/1.2L USM</li>
<li>EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM</li>
<li><strong>EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM</strong></li>
<li>EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM</li>
</ul>
<p>CarePAK PLUS offers protection from accidental damage such as drops, spills, power surges, and more including normal wear and tear, beyond the standard warranty period. With a CarePAK PLUS, a damaged product will be repaired to good working condition or replaced with an equivalent product. Canon customers also enjoy service performed by Canon factory technicians using only genuine Canon parts, which no other service plan can offer.</p>
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slclick · Dec 4, 2017

You can get what you want with video gear (not with the same acronyms but the same features) Once again, people always looking for the ideal video setup on a stills based format. Visit a news station and see if they shoot the show with a dslr.

Canon Rumors · Dec 4, 2017

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The Leica Camera Group achieved revenue of almost 400 million euros in the past financial year 2016/2017 (31 March 2017) and can therefore look back very positively on the previous twelve-month period. With strong revenue growth of more than six per cent, Leica bucked the overall downward trend in the global camera market, which declined by around 10 per cent in the same period.</p>
<p>In the first few months of the current financial year 2017/2018, cumulative growth stands at 15 per cent, thus underscoring the positive global performance of Leica Camera AG. Despite a market environment that remains challenging, the CEO of Leica Camera AG, Matthias Harsch, once again expects a record-breaking result for the 2017/2018 financial year. As a result, the revenue of Leica Camera AG has increased more than fourfold since anchor investor and majority shareholder Dr Andreas Kaufmann came on board in 2004.</p>

<p>The main driver of growth is the systematic realignment of the company that has taken place in recent years. In particular, the setting up of an in-house Retail Distribution division has made a major contribution to revenue growth. Leica now has 90 monobrand stores around the world, which are vital in terms of promoting brand experience in the context of photography. ‘China is our number-one growth market,’ says Matthias Harsch, who is planning 20 to 30 new stores in the country alone. The Group is now strengthening its presence in the service sector with the Leica Akademie brand in order to boost the appeal of photography amongst younger target groups.</p>
<p>The extremely successful technology and brand partnership with Chinese company Huawei in the field of mobile phone photography makes Leica one of the world’s leading providers of smartphone lens applications, a burgeoning technology segment that serves as a global basis for new product ideas and applications in photography.</p>
<p>The entry of Leica into the eyewear segment (glasses) – a move that was completed in 2017 – offers further potential for strong revenue growth in the years ahead. Operating under the name of Leica Eyecare, the company will systematically tap into this global market in conjunction with its technology partner Novacel.</p>
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Valvebounce · Dec 4, 2017

Hi Tron.
Absolutely a bug fix update.

I'm praying for one feature update firmware fix when (if?) they update the exif on the 7DII, I would really like gps off with power switch off, I keep forgetting to go in and enable it in the menu and it flattens the battery all the time (even when the power switch is off )if you leave it enabled!

Cheers, Graham.

tron said:
Valvebounce said:

Hi Tron.
I think the silent live view thing may have value, I don't currently own a T/S lens, but if I did (and I would like to, I went on a CPS course recently) I would likely use live view as these things are not something you generally hand hold and use in a hurry, I also sometimes use silent live view, so this fix comes in to play when you 'forget to deselect' silent live view when you put the T/S on the front, and who hasn't forgotten worse things than that!
Plus I don't have a 5DIV so I don't have either of the items to create this issue, but what the hey!

Cheers, Graham.

tron said:

Valvebounce said:

Hi Tron.
Of all the firmware updates this seems like one of the more useful as it not only adds lens correction for T/S lenses, it fixes stuff. (Also for T/S Lenses!)
Support will be added to fix a phenomenon* in which standard exposure may not be obtained, or an irregular exposure may result, when Silent LV (Live View) shooting with the following TS-E lenses: TS-E 50mm f/2.8L MACRO, TS-E 90mm f/2.8L MACRO, or TS-E 135mm f/4L MACRO.
Also doesn't this bit "Support for Exif 2.31 will be added." Get read by all compatible software, not just DPP.

Cheers, Graham.

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Still how all these translate for you? Even if you (will) use TS lenses do you use silent LV and/or DPP?

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hello, thanks for anwering. I asked all these because although i have tse lenss (24 and 17 but i use mostly the 17) i didn't feel i am missing any functionality but i get your point about live view. Still this update seems more like a bug fixer rather than a feature update to me.

Drainpipe · Dec 4, 2017

neuroanatomist said:
Thanks for the first-impressions review!

Drainpipe said:

When this lens was first announced, I thought for sure that I would be able to use the lens to selectively focus on the entirety of something like a spider, tilting the image plane so that the entire spider was in focus without the need to focus stack. Unfortunately Canon was not able to produce such a magical piece of equipment, but again that is moreso do to my inexperience with tilt-shift lenses and the workings behind them.

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The thing is, it was pretty much not going to happen for two reasons. First, the longer the focal length the more tilt you need. Second, and more importantly in this case, the closer the subject the more tilt you need. For example, at the MFD for the TS-E 90L Macro, sufficient tilt of the image plane so the entire spider was in focus (i.e. so the plane of best focus is oriented a full 90° relative to the sensor) would require ~40° of tilt applied to the lens...but the maximum tilt available is 10°.

Right, and now after actually using it this makes more sense. I can dream of a day when lenses bend physics to my ideals ;D

Most of the time though I wouldn’t necessarily need 90°, more like 60-70°. I know this is still not feasible, but man would that be cool. I think I just need to learn how to focus stack!

Mt Spokane Photography said:
It is not going to me different from the old lens, except closer focusing. For macro shots, your DOF will be greater due to tilt, but only by a small amount. I am waiting for some 135mm reviews.

I see. This may be a good time to pick up an old 90mm to use with tubes if I really wanted to.

Mr Majestyk · Dec 3, 2017

neuroanatomist said:
[quote author=Canon]
Dual Pixel CMOS AF is a sensor-based, phase detection Auto Focus (AF) technology designed to support video shooting, and a compatible CMOS sensor was included in the original design of the EOS C100.

Given that the 1D X does not include a DPAF sensor, the 'firmware upgrade' you are suggesting actually also requires a hardware upgrade, namely a sensor replacement.

Sorry to pop your bubble, but that's simply not going to happen.
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Does that mean the C100 had DPAF sensor and it was not enabled to do AF on sensor? How pathetic.

CDD28 · Dec 3, 2017

Any news on what the production situation is/when Canon will start shipping them again to retailers?

I ordered one from Adorama two weeks ago when it was showing in stock, later got an email saying it's backordered. I messaged them and they're saying they have no idea when they'll be getting more.

tron · Dec 3, 2017

Yes, I used 16-35 in museums where going backwards would cause me to include people in the pictures and in churches. However if I were to visit them again I would spend more time in churches in order to also step back and shoot differently too. I had tried the 24-70 and 70-200 combination once but that resulted more lens changes. However that was in a completely different place which demanded the use of 70-200 too. I guess everything depends on what someone wants to shoot.

Eldar · Dec 2, 2017

Re: Off Brand: Leica Camera Pushes Photographic Boundaries With the New Leica Noctilux-M 75 mm f/1.2

I have been a Canon faithful for +40 years. However, besides a Hasselblad package, I got a Leica M10 some time back, with a 35 Summilux, a APO 50 Summicron, APO 75 Summicron and a Zeiss 21/2.8. The lenses are like jewellery and the M10 is a fantastic camera. It is a totally different experience to a Canon rig and a comparison makes absolutely no sense. I cannot articulate why I like the Leica (love is probably a more accurate word), I just do. The logic is that it is smaller and lighter for travel and less intrusive for street photography. The illogical arguments are back to basics, simplicity and feeling. And I love the sound of the shutter.

Regarding this lens, I really don´t understand why anyone would buy it though. If it had been marginally more expensive than the APO 75 f2.0, then maybe, but to the price they are asking ... senseless. Both the 50 and 75 noctilux lenses breaks the Leica idea, by being big and heavy (everything is relative), whereas the APO 50 and 75 lenses are both fantastic performers, in a very compact and high quality package. So in short, I am not tempted. For portraits I´d rather buy the 85mm f1.4L IS.

R1-7D · Dec 2, 2017

The Flasher said:
Will this fix the shutter-mechanism-oil-spraying-on-sensor issue? Just encountered it after a few million actuations. It's real.

Just checked. Nope, still an issue.

LDS · Dec 2, 2017

Re: Not for tilted/shifted

keithcooper said:
None of the TS-E lenses communicate Shift or Tilt info to the camera (there are no encoders in the lens AFAIK

We need someone disassemble one of those lenses and tell us. Because if it just uses the lens ID, and then everything is done in DPP, why does it need support in firmware, and it's not available for any camera? Or the camera does add some info later used by DPP?

beforeEos Camaras · Dec 2, 2017

I got 1.3.3 not shure if I need to upgrade the ts lens fix and the 70-300 fix are lens I most likely never use on this camera.

Valvebounce · Dec 1, 2017

Hi Folks.
Thank you for the enlightenment.
I too was taught to write titles in full with the acronym in brackets, it's not that hard to do, eliminates so much confusion and yet authors are often too lazy to bother.
The camera looks like a neat bit of kit.

Cheers, Graham.

Zeidora · Dec 1, 2017

Alejandro said:
Zeidora said:

malus said:

@zeidora: I seem to understand form your comments that you are proper microscopist but I don't want to bother other readers with technical stuff.
I am interested in monitoring crystals during solid-state reactions. In some case these occur by varying temperature, in other cases by exposing crystals to humidity, pressure, or different gasses including HCl and ammonia, through the use of special cells that I have designed. Now for some reason people don't want me to use HCl in their ESEM :-X.
Being more serious most of these reactions produce a change of the crystal colour that electron microscopy cannot reveal.

Anyway if as you shouw above the lens resolution is the limiting factor then the test results of DoX mark suggest that I'm better off with a 6D or 5D and an extender than the 5DS(r).

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Yep, no HCl in "my" SEM either! I only brought up SEM because you mentioned TEM. Still waiting for the color SEM as well.

Re 5D vs 5Ds[R], does not matter really. Either you use the 5DsR and get low mag, high MP image, or you use 5D ... and get higher mag, lower MP image. The structure will be shown at the same pixel dimensions at the edge of resolution, once you factor in absolute pixel size.

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So, you're saying that in between a 5DsR and a 5D2/5D are the limits, ¿any camera in between (6D, 6D2, 5D4) would just balance the quality/diffraction/magnification?

precisely. Optical resolution is measured of how small an object structure (two points/lines separated between x µm) can be recognized as distinct. There is the contrast issue added in and that is what MTF tells you. Keeping object contrast the same, then either you can use a low overall magnification (say 4:1) on a high MP body with small pixels (say 5DsR), or you can use an overall higher magnification (say 7:1) on a lower MP body with larger pixels (say 5D2) to reach the resolution limit of the lens. Going above 4:1 on a 5DsR is futile, because you only blur circles over many pixels, but not additional information. That is what the beginning of this thread was all about.

With crop bodies, the small pixel size vs small sensor size sort of cancel each other out.

The above is not fully mathematically exact, but gets us into the ball park, and we can avoid doing futile exercises (e.g., going to 10:1 with MPE65 & 2xTC on 5DsR).

That is why I suggested microscope objectives for your 0.5 mm crystals to begin with.

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