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privatebydesign · May 28, 2015

TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
candc said:

AlanF said:

Why is Dustin Abbott always described as a "friend of the site"? Is a Facebook friend or does he buy the mods a beer when he sees them, or what?

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they are all pretty chummy up there in the great white north.

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Yep, it's a very small country, you know. ;D

Eh. ;D

Mt Spokane Photography · May 28, 2015

The consumer cameras get updated more frequently than Pro models, a 80D will likely arrive next year, possibly this fall. I have not heard any solid Rumors yet.

Beware, there are lots of websites with really unreliable rumors. Canon Rumors grades the quality of Rumors. CR1 is just something to discuss, and is not a reliable Rumor.
CR2 is from a source that tends to provide good information, and there is a backup providing similar info.
CR3 means its confirmed, and seldom falls thru.

Another Site to check is Keith Coopers North Light Images. It has a huge amount of valuable and accurate photography and printing information, and as a secondary feature, Keith Summarizes rumors so you can see ones that have been posted over time.

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_80D.html

RustyTheGeek · May 28, 2015

NancyP said:
My favorite hiking kit for exploratory photography (as opposed to specific landscapes in mind) is an APS-C (mine is the 60D, but SL1 or 70D or 7D/D2 might be a choice too) and EF-S15-85mm f/3.5-5.6. You can cover a lot of territory with that range, and I believe that it goes to 0.25x, so closeups are decent. Cotton Carrier vest. Camera is kept available and hands kept free for poles/.

In a similar spirit, I took the SL1 + Tamron 18-270 to Philmont last summer. I built my own lightweight rig to carry it across my chest between the shoulder straps and I carried a EF-S 10-22 in the pack for use in camps to capture more story during the activities. The only thing I wanted to take but decided to leave behind to reduce weight right before we departed was the small 270EX-II flash and batteries. We were on the trail for 10 days and it worked great. Love the SL1. Now it's sort of a "beater" camera I use for all kinds of misc things including handing off to other adults at campouts to get more shots.

AcutancePhotography · May 28, 2015

drmikeinpdx said:
I've read too many stories about autofocus problems with Sigma lenses on Canon bodies and have experienced some myself.

I'd be surprised if many professional photographers would take a chance on the rumored Sigma. At F/2.8 you need consistent autofocus.

Perhaps if they price it low enough, they could sell some to consumer-level photographers.

Perhaps it is because more people have had no problem with their SIGMA art lenses and have not bothered to write posts on the Internets Tubes. That is the problem with making decisions based on internet postings.. you are really not getting a representative sample of the population.

Marsu42 · May 28, 2015

David - Sydney said:
Is the 7D end of sale now and if not, what would replace it? 70D is newish and so is 7D Mkii but there seems to be a gap to me.

Not so, as the 70d inherited a lot of features from the 7d1 (and even the new Rebels have a decent af system though missing afma), Canon is covered in the lower ralms. Not that they would have a choice with these price tags as there's a lot of competition from Sonikon here.

In the premium market, the 7d2 offers some unique features so Canon will try to make some $$$ unless the competition catches up and the price will be lowered. I don't see the business requirement for having a camera body every $500 step.

Marsu42 · May 28, 2015

neuroanatomist said:
All you can really do is send the lens, body, or both into their respective manufacturers for adjustment.

... the other possibility is to simply use Magic Lantern which lets you enter afma values that exceed Canon's bounds (up to +-100, if I remember correctly).

exquisitor · May 28, 2015

mb66energy said:
exquisitor said:

mb66energy said:

The EOS M is really compact if paired with the 2.0 22 but really awkward to use just
for medium slow "action".
With the EF 2.8 40 and the EF-S 2.8 60 via adapter it gives me the better focal lengths but is far from
compact. Using EF lenses via adaptor eats up the compactness of the EOS M ...

An SL2 is a very valid option and might add to a "shooting ready moderately poor man's trinity":
24mm: EF 2.8 24 classic + 5D classic
64mm: EF 2.8 40 + SL2
100mm: EF 2.8 100 Macro classic + 5D classic

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Very interesting! I also have 5D I with a bunch of primes (14, 24, 35, 50 and 100 mm) and have considered to buy EOS M as an all-around tool because of light weight and small size. But now I see SL1 would be also a nice option. What is your experience with EOS M? As I understand from your comment about speed, it is rather not very responsive camera. Aside from this there is only screen for composing and I really like the OVF. Would you consider SL1/SL2 to be a better option?

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EOS M has great IQ, especially with the EF-M 2.0 22 ...

and the EF 2.8 40 + EF-S 2.8 60 mm and there the size advantage of EOS M vanishes compared to the SL-1.
One has to compare the size of the naked SL-1 with the EOS M + EF-M2EF adaptor.

SL 1: 117 x 91 x 69 mm WIDTH x HEIGHT x DEPTH
SL 1: 117 x 91 x 125 mm with EF-S 60

EOS M: 109 x 66 x 127 mm with adaptor + EF-S 60
EOS M: 109 x 66 x 57 mm with adaptor
EOS M: 109 x 66 x 32 mm

With the EF-S 60 mounted there is no real advantage in terms of size - except some millimeters in width and height. Add the advantages of an SL-1 or it's next incarnation:
- OVF (including checking the scene with USM lenses without any power consumption)
- built in flash
- 380 vs 230 shots per battery charge

You can add an EVF to the EOS M3 or a flash to the EOS M but than the HEIGHT of the camera might exceed the height of the SL-1.
The only advantage I see in an EOS M3 with EVF is to have a good viewfinder option for VIDEO. But
I decided for me that I have to go a long way to be a good photographer, but I am to old to be a good
videographer ...

So my answer to your question:
I would prefer the SL-1 and ... if the SL-2 has a fully equipped Wifi remote control with live view I would even prefer it much more!

Best - Michael

Thank you, Michael! SL1/2 looks really attractive.
It is very sad that there is only one prime in the EF-M line. I hope Canon will change this and bring more lenses in the system. EOS M3 looks really interesting, but if I would attach my 50/1.4 to the camera via adapter, the length would be nearly the same as 5D+50/1.4 or SL1+50/1.4. The weight would be even larger than with SL1 with 770 g vs 700 g (5D+50/1.4 is 1200 g).

Valvebounce · May 28, 2015

Hi docholliday.
Thanks for your input, I didn't get the cheap camera, I wasn't willing to risk that it was a scam, but I still intend to go this route at some point in the future, on a bang for buck level I'm still convinced that this is a good value camera. Unless my wife feels compelled to buy me a 1Dx at some point! ;D

Cheers, Graham.

Lyle Krannichfeld · May 27, 2015

Thanks. I'm SOOOOO excited! ;D

asmundma · May 27, 2015

mnovaksan said:
I care about 4k. That said I'm on the advisory board of an LA motion picture studio, so maybe it's not for everyone. A few reasons why.

Quality - 1080p looks better when the original footage is shot on 4k, and then downsized for distribution.

Becoming ubiquitous - Even my iPhone 6 can shoot 4k. The quality issue is important

Better Compression available - HEVC/H.265 encoding is becoming increasingly the standard for distribution. Much better compression than h.264. So not nearly the drain on broadband distribution.

Archive quality - When I'm shooting footage of my family or professionally, I want it to look good on the screens of 2025, not just the ones of 2015.

Completly agree. I am an entusiast phograper and video maker. No doubt 4k make sence. I have the imac retina and a Samsung 4k Tv. Shoot 4k with ShoGun and A7s. No doubt you can see the difference, however HD is also nice with this camra. A higher end camra like FS7, will even look better.
Seems to me people are putting up agruments because they don't have the tools themselfs.........

Canon Rumors · May 27, 2015

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<em>Highlights Include New EOS C300 Mark II Digital Cinema Camera, XC10 4K Camcorder, and DP-V2410 4K Reference Monitor </em></p>
<p><strong>MELVILLE, N.Y, MAY 27, 2015</strong> – Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, will showcase its latest 4K digital cinema products for professionals in the motion picture, television production, and video content creation industries in Booth #12 at Cine Gear Expo Los Angeles 2015 from Friday, June 5 through Saturday, June 6.</p>
<p>Located at the Studios at Paramount Pictures in Hollywood, CA, visitors to the Canon booth will have an opportunity to receive hands-on experience with the latest cinema equipment offerings including the new EOS C300 Mark II Digital Cinema Camera, XC10 4K Digital Camcorder, and DP-V2410 4K Reference Display introduced in April. Canon will also have its new CINE-SERVO 50-1000mm T5.0-8.9 ultra-telephoto 4K zoom lens on display, the only lens of its kind in the industry. In addition, the new 50.6 megapixel, high-resolution EOS 5DS and 5DS R Digital SLR cameras will be shown.</p>
<p>In the Paramount Theatre during the Expo will be three Canon-hosted educational panel discussions, featuring industry professionals discussing their craft, and how Canon products have helped power their work. The panel discussion schedule is as follows:</p>
<p><strong>Friday, June 5, 5:30 – 6:30 pm</strong> – Amazon Studios’ Transparent: Capturing Intimate Scenes in 4K with the EOS C500 Camera featuring Jim Frohna (DP), Corinne Bogdanowicz (Colorist), and Zoe Van Brunt (2nd AC).</p>
<p><strong>Saturday June 6, 12:45 – 1:45 pm</strong> – A First Look at the EOS C300 Mark II Camera with Gale Tattersall featuring Gale Tattersall (DP), Tony Gutierrez (1st AC) and Ari Robbins (Steadicam Operator).</p>
<p><strong>Saturday June 6, 4:30 – 5:30 pm</strong> – Documentary Panel Discussion featuring Jenna Rosher (DP, “An Open Secret”, “Janis: Little Girl Blue”), Svetlana Cvetko (DP, “Brand: A Second Coming”, “Inequality for All”) and Jerry Henry (DP, “City of Gold”).</p>
<p>For more information about Canon at Cine Gear Expo LA 2015 please visit: <a class="bold_text underlink" href="http://pro.usa.canon.com/cinegear2015" target="_blank">pro.usa.canon.com/cinegear2015</a>.</p>

May 27, 2015

Orangutan said:
neuroanatomist said:

RGF said:

...what is the correct way to think about DR.

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The correct way to think about DR is that Canon doesn't have enough, and Sony and Nikon have plenty. If anyone tries to suggest that the additional DR of Sony and Nikon isn't of all that much practical benefit in most situations, then the correct way to think about DR is that more DR means more stops of shadow lifting, and if you cannot lift the shadows at least 4 stops then your camera is unusable.

So speaketh the disciples of the Holy Exmor.

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You live in Boston, yes? Perhaps you could have held your fire until you saw the whites of their eyes.

That's so old school – today, we carry the fight to foreign shores. :-X

tron · May 27, 2015

MintChocs said:
My thoughts would be to get the 6D, it's the best Canon sensor (apart from the 1Dx). Use that with the 16-35 for the landscapes. It's better to have two bodies in case one fails plus constant changing of lenses allows more dust into the camera body not something you want when shooting landscapes at f16. They both use the same battery. If you don't have a few filters like graduated ND, polariser then look into that.

+1. Carrying 2 camera bodies with lenses is heavier but at the same time very convenient (I am talking from experience 1 month ago...)

Ozarker · May 27, 2015

jeffa4444 said:
Is this going to explode the drone market to the masses as GoPro did for the action cam?

https://www.lily.camera/

Once the Japanese were the innovators in cameras now it seems its the US.

Just amazing technology isn't it? Truly magical times we live in. Just unreal!

Mt Spokane Photography · May 26, 2015

Macro lenses tend to be among the best because they are simple. A zoom macro is going to be complex and difficult to reach the quality of the primes.

With a Macro, its extremely easy to zoom by moving back a foot or so, so its not the same as when you are shooting something and standing on the edge of a canyon or river, and can't move closer (or further away). A zoom macro sounds nice, but is it really necessary?

bmwzimmer · May 26, 2015

This is my Ideal Digital Camera.... If Canikon developed such a camera, it can very well save itself from extinction in the near future as Mirrorless cameras are catching up in almost every category except battery life and autofocus but it's just a matter of time... So the two main things I'm proposing leverages a DSLR's attributes or even flaws into wonderful features Mirrorless cameras can't match.

1.) Lengthen the Pentaprism Hump either to the right, left, or BOTH sides so that it includes a Built in EVF alongside the Optical Viewfinder. This gives DSLR's the BEST of Both worlds. It can even be below the Optical viewfinder and keep the Hump the same...
2.) Use the large size of a DSLR by including a LARGE 4"+ Display. Make the corner more square if they need to to maximize the size of the display. This makes a Huge difference for aging eyes and is possible only on a large DSLR.

PS: Sorry for the Crappy MS Paint job I did at work. No Photoshop at work

Thoughts?

DominoDude · May 26, 2015

neuroanatomist said:
DominoDude said:

bdunbar79 said:

I agree, the 300mm f/2.8L II IS and 16-35 f/4L IS are common lenses on these lists. They are both on mine too. If I could just get those two lenses first maybe my perspective would change on camera bodies and my GAS would go away ;D

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Bad news! GAS is a chronic disease. Once you get it, it will only get worse. (Until either you, or your bank account dies...)

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The 600 II didn't cure it. I'm going to have to move on to buying 2-3 lenses at a time.

I (as unemployed - still) envy your wallet and paychecks.
Sincerely,
/Frustrated BeyondBelief

Click · May 26, 2015

Thanks for sharing, 9VIII. I have truly enjoyed watching them.

PureClassA · May 25, 2015

Oh, smoke... Did I mention Smoke? Yeah, Smoke. I hate smoke. Constantly. Had to make all those lovely light beams from the LED gatling guns.

old-pr-pix · May 25, 2015

Seems like neuro and unfocused have pretty much explained IQ. For noise, multiple ISO by crop factor squared to get close to equivalent, so ISO 3200 x 1.6 x 1.6 = about ISO 8000.

As to lighting, soft light yields soft looking pictures. 7DII shot has petals in shadow so they look softer, 5DIII shot has them is bright sun so they almost glow. The brighter lighting on 5DIII shot may also explain why it has more apparent depth of field? These flower clusters don't look like they were taken on the same day -- arrangement of petals is sufficiently different to not be explained just by slightly different angle of shot? Were they the same cluster? Different day or different cluster may also explain some variation in coloration.

Dylan777 · May 25, 2015

This is good news. I have both 25 and 85 on pre-order

Look forward to see wider than 25mm from zeiss in near future.

johnhenry · May 25, 2015

applecider said:
My big question here, and I'm serious, is will canon service this lens if anything breaks. They seem to have taken some pride in the series converting them from FD lenses to EF. I wonder if they keep track of the current owners and offer them some sort of support plan.

Imagine the price drop that would occur if canon came out with a good 1200mm f 5.6 DO lens that weighed less than 10# or 4 kg. and was hand luggable. Hint hint

And yes in comparison to a 600 L II and a 2xIII extender it would be nice to see some actual quality comparisons. Perhaps that is why the reviews are always short for time and bench testing is never feasible.......

The focus motors are one of the weak points of "legacy" equipment. This one and the 200mm 1.8 both share the same motor in their "focus by wire" design, meaning if the motor goes even manual focus will not work. When I got my 200mm 1.8, I also got a spare new motor for it from an camera equipment maker.

Someone else made the point about the ultimate resolution of the lens. With a lens this expensive and painstakingly made, there ARE options not available to the opticians such as "retouching". They basically test the complete optic against its own refection in an optical flat that is falt to say 1/20 of a wavelength of light, and adjust it to get the best results.

ajfotofilmagem · May 25, 2015

RGF said:
ajfotofilmagem said:

Canon L lenses prioritize quality construction, and if possible picture quality. Retrofocus lens designs facilitate fast focus without moving the front element, and aberration correction. The trend toward lens L is the ring USM is near the rear of the lens, saving size and weight.

Exception to this are the STM lens where the focus ring is only an electronic sensor, and can be located in any portion of the lens, regardless of whether or not retrofocus.

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So is the focus ring near the rear of the lens something we should expect for tele zoom lenses in the future (especially L series)?

I believe so.
But, if we consider a long lens as 600mm, the location of the focus ring "close" to the rear of the lens, can be almost 20 cm away.

Busted Knuckles · May 25, 2015

back when I raced sailboats, I would have given anything to have something like this. 20 minutes of circling the boat as we practiced! WOW.

benique · May 25, 2015

I also use a couple of YN-600EX-RT. They work very well and have transceivers built in. I've used them in ETTL and manual mode.

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